Enterprise 10/3
 

sweet so far

I agree. I haven't been interested in Trek since Next Generation, but I'm really liking Enterprise so far. Somehow it feels as if they took the best parts of Trek then added in all the grit and variety that the rest of Sci-Fi has been using. The Event Horizon-esque scene was cool. The dialogue and actors are really good. And the cinematic lighting and widescreen AR are awesome.

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I thought it was pretty good, but actually found myself agreeing with T'Pol. I don't know if I would have boarded the ship. What if it had been like she said and they didn't want any company. They could have been killed. I think I might have been more caucious.

but explorers will never learn anything that way
what if columbus had been cautious?
:)

I liked most of the episode, and I was glad they spent some time developing Harry Kim, I mean Hoshi Sato's character. It was a little melodramatic, and the whole thing with the slug was as deep as a 2 foot kiddie pool, but I liked the sentiment. I'll be fine with this episode if she now starts demonstrating a backbone and acting with some confidence. If she bumbles around for 7 years like Kim, I'll be disappointed.

I don't think I'm sold on Neelix, I mean Richard Dreyfuss, I mean Phlox just yet. He still annoys me a bit. And dammit, if that bitch doesn't stop smirking at everything, her degree from the Vulcan Science Academy will be revoked.

Oh yeah, and the re-orchestrated 'Faith of the Heart' music as score over the heart warming moments ... no ... I don't think so.

I guess it sounds like I'm complaining, but I really did enjoy the episode. After a few more episodes, I think we'll have some strong character development and a show we can really sink our teeth into.

das

hey don't mock "nice guy Harry kim" :)
the Dr is kind of annoying, but I think he'll turn out ok, at least he's acting different from the humans, shows some cultural differences between his species and the humans.
that "vulcan" is pathetic

OK, let me get this straight. In the time period that Enterprise is supposed to be set in, 'shields' don't exist? Well, when do they begin to exist then?

Great episode. I love that they don't have all the answers yet. Sorta like Luke Skywalker training to be a Jedi.

I'm really enjoying this series--much more than I thought I would. Even the theme song is growing on me.

I think T'Pol still has some perfecting to do in her character to get it down--she's still too emotional in her intonations, but otherwise she's doing really good.

Overall, they've made a great move with this Trek. I hope they can keep it up.

Perhaps I just missed something, or don't understand the complexities of warp drive, but at the begining when Hoshi Sato (the Comm officer) is complaining that the stars are going the wrong direction because she's on starboard instead of port, wouldn't the stars be moving in the same direction?

Any insight into my feeble human thoughts?

Matthew

I was wondering that, too. I think what she meant is that the window was on the wrong side of the room from what she was used to. That would make more sense, unless you're right and there's something about warp drive we don't know.

das? :)

I think they were new right before the NCC 1701 Enterprise got built. There is a book about the first Capt. of that Enterprise, and that's when they first met romulans face to face, and shields then were still new enough to not be able to block transporters, which where also fairly new, at least I don't think romulans had them

looking out her window, she was used to being on the port side, where the stars would go right to left, her new quarters on the starboard side had them going left to right when looking out the window

I'm not Mike Okuda's protege, guys :)

But on this issue, it's as simple as it seems. If you're on the starboard side of the ship, the "window" is on the right and the stars will appear to go from left to right from the perspective of someone looking out. If you're port, they'll appear right to left. Sometimes a cigar ... :)

das

I still don't get it then. Does this Enterprise ship that they have right now have shields or not? And why didn't they realize that the bad guy's ship would have shields and that a torpedo would do nothing against it. Isn't there a freakin manual they can use?

Good episode, all around, a few of my complaints (the attempt at character development, the music, and the slug) have been voiced. Captain "let's blow some stuff up" Archer is shaping up to be a kick@ss captain.

As for the shields, didn't the first enterprise not really have shields? I thought they justed used the transporters to "beam" more material back into place when it was hit. Maybe I'm remembering something else.

Oh, and one other thing - why is the chick trying to sleep with her EYES OPEN?! Who gives a rat's @ss which directions the stars are going - just close your eyes! :)

The special effects are quite cool sofar. I'll be tuning in for a while yet.

when are they gonna start trusting transporters....

hopefully not for a long time
McCoy never really trusted them, 115 years after this show's time frame, nor did Pulaski 215 years later

Liked the scene where the torpedo started heading back towards the Enterprise.

Not too bad. Starting to see the true 'character' of the captain. Some indecision and morality mixed in.

Looks like the Enterprise will be outclassed most of the time in this show and they'll have to use their wits to get them out of trouble.

Is the next episode entitled 'Pitch Black'? ;)

Yea, I know. No exploration, no show. I guess what made it work is the appearance of the ship having been attacked.

Definitely need to lose the "Kim syndrome". They need to get Sato some backbone, stat!

I like the Dr. He's amusing.

When people say first Enterprise, are they referring to Kirk's ship or Pike's? I don't know if they covered sheilds with Pike's ship, but we all know that Kirk's ship had sheilds.

Overall, good story. Slug was a waste of film. I'll keep watching.

I disagree. I was just thinking last night how the doctors on the shows have always been the most interesting/fun characters.

Dr. Phlox...what a riot...

"That couple over there are going to mate later. Do you think they'll let me watch?"

Pretty funny for a Star Trek show...

And the dog and the cheese. Nice touch..

Or Robert April's? :)

das

D'oh! I forgot about Robert April.

BTW das, the boytoy commented on your vast knowledge being impressive. Then he proceeded to rag on Buffy!

One day he'll understand. Does he just not watch Buffy, or does he watch it and not like it? If the former, there's hope for him yet. If the latter, you may need to trade him in for another model.

das

He's watched a bit of it, I believe, but not enough to really judge. He just thinks the premise is stupid. But loves to watch world's most moronic police chases. Yuck! I've threatened to upgrade him. :)

Just finished the episode... Not perfect, but pretty darn good. I actually have hope for this show.

[SPOILERS, I guess]
I had this feeling of dread at the beginning of this episode. The title wasn’t “The Naked Before”, but I was still waiting for someone to start rubbing imagined goop off their hands and acting weird… :)

Am I the only one who thinks Archer shoulda slapped the cr@p outa Hoshi? I mean, that’s the classic cinema response to her type of hysteria. (OK, admittedly, it’s usually used in comedy, but still…) Is falling apart under stress going to be her character flaw? If so, the crew should eventually line up a la Airplane. :lol: Or we could feed her to the doctor’s bat.

Yah, but it’s in Vulcan, and it’s locked up in T’Pol’s quarters under her frilly panties. ;)

If everybody else has shields and tractor beams, etc. it’s not too surprising, remembering that “we” are still infants in space.

Hopefully this will be the underlying theme of the show.

Reserving judgment on the doctor. (das, Richard Dreyfuss??)

Vulcan’s lips are too pouty.

Not much of a music track, thankfully.

Archer doing a soliloquy (several pages of dialogue) to his personal log is a cheat, IMHO. Thank goodness they didn’t have him give that speech to the dog, but at first I thought he was talking to the dog. (Hmmm. I think that just might have worked better. Hmmm. [Wizdar rubbing his chin like the kid in the Dell commercials.])

On a positive note, for those who complain that we complain too much, has anyone considered that Enterprise has to reinvent itself? The Star Trek Universe was already established for the shows that followed, and there wasn’t the need to rehash things like warp drives or transporters. If the writers can resist the temptation to rush into the development of technology, I think the show will continue to be a fresh, new look at Roddenberry’s creation. The idea of the crew getting “cabin fever” was wonderful.

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Originally posted by elektra
… the boytoy commented on your vast knowledge being impressive…

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Did he use the word, “Dork”? rotfl


Bah!


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“Bad Star Trek is still better than no Star Trek at all.” -- Wizdar

We were having a discussion here at work, do you think they will meet up with the Borg?

I mean Kirk never did and Capt Picard acted like he has never seen this species before so.....

But in First Contact they said they were Borg of that time period.
The only thing I can think of is since in First Contact they kind messed around with history, I guess they could meet up with the Borg.

If the ratings suck, then yes. Otherwise, they're still in the Delta quadrent and IRRC not aware of humans at this point.

Wizdar - um no, he didn't use Dork. He's somewhat knowledgabel himself.

I disagree with your signature. No Trek is always better than bad Trek, to me. That's why I stopped watching Voyager and never missed it. :)

I'm really getting interested in this series. I thought the episode was generally great.

I agree about the Doctor being an interesting 'alien' aboard the Enterprise. I think be brings an interesting perspective to the show.

For a Star Trek episode, you think they would have been more careful about that, especially in our environmentally conscious (sort of) society.

Totally understand that point of view. I'm just a lot more forgiving re sci-fi than a lot of folks. But what can you expect from a guy with Dinosaurus! in his DVD collection... -rolleyes-

:D

Borg of this time period are unaware of humans, as mentioned before.

Also, humans are unaware of the Borg and even the Romulans for that matter. First Contact with Romulans happened with Kirk and co. I guess thats why they had to invent the 'Caliban' or whatever they're called...

Trust me on this. Watch it again. Then watch Darrell Hammond's Richard Dreyfuss impersonation during the Star Wars auditions on SNL. Dead ringer :)

My thoughts exactly!

das

THIS is Ceti Alph Five!!!

das

This was a good episode too.. I thought Hoshi was great, I like that she's not your typical soldier type. She's scared of everything and more of a normal human being. If you were just a normal civilian and got talked into coming on a battleship in the middle of WW2 you'd be jumpy too :) In the other treks all the people just seem like carbon copies of each other more or less (At least thats the idea I got being a non trek fan and only watching shows every so often...), in this show, people seem more "human".

The vulcan chick.. she bugs me but if we have more T&A sceenes with her like the first episode, she'll be fine :)

And I also like how they don't use transporters. Always thought they were kinda lame.. here it's like they have the technology but they're all scared to use it, like they'll turn out like Jeff Goldblum in the fly :)

Already this show is shaping up to be a darker version of star trek, and I think that's what I like about it all around. I hope it stays this way and we get to see more action instead of "Lets be happy and make every other episode be based on some social issue that no one cares about". I wanna see explosions and laser gun fights where people get limbs blown off :p