Enterprise [SPOILERS]
 

So far, I like it. I love the comment about knocking the vulcan on her ass. That was killer.

When they lost power Glenn made the comment that their systems were done by Microsoft too! rotfl

Cons:

Opening music
Jolene Blalok hasn't captured what a Vulcan is yet. To be fair, no one really did other than Nimoy, so my expectations are high. It's just the first episode; I'm sure she'll grow into it.

Pros:

Everything else. I'm really liking it so far. Like LeVar said, "the fun is back in Trek."

das

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See my little Wicccan! I told you to give it a chance ;)

Does anyone know if they'll repeat it on the weekend???

YES!!!! A vulcan and the pop up viewscreen. Beautiful :)

das

I love it, aside from the cheesy pop rock intro music. And this one has something the other four don't...Vulcan nipples!!!! YUM!

And now we know that the ears aren't the only pointy things on Vulcans -smile-

Robo - I did like it overall. I feel him getting left behind on the alien station to be bit contrived, but it was pretty good. I'll stick with it and unless they start doing the stupid stuff they did with Voyager, this could be good. Did you see it already? What did you think? Pro's? Con's?

das - your thoughts overall?

rotfl

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didn't catch that

so the temporal cold war....

is this from TOS and TOS movies? klingons vs. humans?

Glenn also made the comment, Suliban - Taliban. I thought it coincidental. This show was filmed a few months ago, before everything happened.

not only the suliban - taliban but also the leader they said, its wasn't Kabul but sounded a lot like it

A good season premiere. Looks like I will be watching this season. Archer doesnt look too bad. But damn in that first hour.......I thought Archer was going to rape the vulcan T'Pol on several occasions.

Speaking of T'Pol..... what the hell was up with that oil rub down? Reminded me of many softcore porns from the past. Well, I must say that shes got amazing breasts. Hopefully we'll see them more this season.

Seeing Deebo play a Klingon was pretty funny. Maybe we'll learn that he is the great great grandfather of Worf.

Nice cameo from Dr. Zefram Cochrane but they shouldve shown him more!!!!

And finally,
how many damn Buffy the Vampire Slayer commericals did UPN show? I LOST COUNT!!! Jesus Christ!!!! She Lives!!!!! We get the point!

They said that the Vulcan life span was 200 years, does that mean we are going to see the birth of Spock at some point? Isn't this supposed to take place a 150 years before Kirk?

Haha ... "AY! DEEBO! You got knock'd da f*** out"

It was also good to see Vaughn Armstrong as Admiral Forrest. One of many nice homages to the original.

Blalock got all the press, but I was quite impressed with Linda Park. I hope they develop her character more and don't forget about her in favor of the big breasts. Breasts ... breasts ... what was I talking about, again? Um ... nevermind

das

Spock's not born until 2230. The show would have to run a long time :) Maybe we'd see Sarek, but unlikely.

das

I really liked the breasts...er, show, I meant the show. I had already read the script so I knew what was going to happen, but they did it well. This has been set up the right way, and hopefully the writers will be allowed to be interesting.

BTW Venusion- the "outlaw" Suliban were the "Cabal", not "Kabul".

I wonder if the identity of the people from the future directing the Suliban will be revealed prior to the series' finale? Probably not.

yeah, Cabal...close to Kabul, and Suliban-Taliban...eerie coincidencde?


i think the identity will be...my guess is that it is humans from the future during the whole klingon/federation war...it'll add an extra dimension of drama with the humans having to "fight" humans

The oil rubdown scene was totally contrived. Those lines could have been delivered anywhere else on the ship. Also didn't care for the intro theme music, they need to get a nice symphonic piece with Alexander Courage's intro. Otherwise, I loved it. When Archer waves his hand in front of his face in the temporal chamber, that was priceless.

Like it but I hope they get over Archer hates Vulcans got old real quick. Thou it did give him some good lines. What was the deal with the Phas pistol in the final battle? Same to admit it but I dozed off during the break down of UPN transmission.

Okay, so I am not really a sci-fi dork;). What is the time supposed to be for this series?

Just thought I'd throw in my two cents. I liked it quite a bit. I thought there was a very nice intermingling of some of the clunkier aspects of the "later" TOS-era Federation and real-time technological advances that've been made since the first series ran in the late 60's. I wasn't looking forward to seeing the crew lugging around the tape recorders that stood in for tricorders on the first series. It's an ongoing aspect of production that I'm sure is going to be a little tricky.

I like the crew. It's nice to have a British actor among the regulars again, even if he's not the captain. As to the Vulcan, did she just enjoy the lotion scene or was it cold on the set that day...wow! I enjoyed the Melinda Clarke scene though I wish she hadn't been almost instantly killed off. She's a hottie. Was it just me or did I sense a John Wayne stylization to Scott Bakula's line delivery? He has the potential to be the best series captain since Patrick Stewart IMHO.

there is a tension between Archer and Vulcans like the one between Kirk and Klingons after they killed his son...yeah it'll get old fast if they don't do it right.


I'm thinking something is gonna develop between the vulcan and the guy that rubbed her down in the lotion scene...just a little foreshadowing of sexual tension

Regarding the British engineer guy, in case nobody caught the show, he played the role of 'Malos' on the short-lived series 'The Immortal' (which actually wasn't really all that bad, but they only showed it here at 2:30am). Malos was the main evil guy and was on quite a lot, was an interesting character there.

8pm on Wednesdays?

Or 2151, 88 years after First Contact in 2063 and 10 years before UFP forms in 2161?

das

P.S. It's geek :)

nipples ... wow !

and those dancer girls ? wow .. that on TV which is supposed to be kiddy stuff ... I was "impressed"

ok .. who of you creative fanboys is already working on T'Pol nude fake pics ??

:)

the dancers reminded me of DS9...remember the early episodes had the waitresses with light bulb boobs?

I hope they do better with the west coast transmission-- I'm supposed to be taping it for my UPN-less parents...

Giantrobo-- Your local mileage may vary, but my program guide shows a repeat showing on Sunday night at 8pm...

Logically, I think they have to keep FutureGuy as the mysterious Big-Bad for the life of the whole series... They can't wrap up that storyline. Since he's trying to change the past, he's the writers' way out of the "predictablility conuundrum"--where we know everything will be fine because we already know the future. They need FutureGuy around so that the Universe can still be endangered throughout the series...

Don't get me started about the oil rubdown... I guess retro-Trek should have its fair share of T&A--it helps put the fun in the show... But perhaps they can try not to be so ridiculous about it... :)

No I've not seen it yet because I'm at work. But also I'm not one who gets a worked up over spoilers so don't worry(no that you were ;) ) and I new from your title what I was getting into.

it's funny Elektra....you and I seem to have soooo much in common i.e. Comics, Star Trek, and other stuff.

I think that's cool and it's proof "We can all get along" rotfl

Peace mah sistah!!!!

http://www.leh.net/~jolene/gma_l1.jpg

YUMMY !!!!!

Thanks Adamblast!!! I figured they would.

Like I always said...you rule!!!

Ack ... somehow I missed this post. Sorry ...

Overall, I quite enjoyed it. I'm very impressed with the way they handled the consoles. Everything looks very badass, but it's still in the spirit of pre-TOS. If you recall when I was posting about all the people working on the show speaking highly of it, one of their sources of praise was the attitude on the set and the chemistry between the actors. I could easily see this. Like I said, I'm not sold on T'Pol yet. I keep wondering how Marjorie would have played the role. Playing a Vulcan could be the most difficult thing in Trek, so I'm more than villing to give her time. But the rest of the cast has incredible chemistry already, and I'm anxious to learn about all their characters. As I said earlier, I think Sato has some real potential.

It's a little cheesy, but that's one of the things that was great about TOS. It's fly by the seat of your pants television. I'm glad to see that again. It's fresh. TNG was dramatic, DS9 was dark, VOY was pretentious. It's nice to get a change of pace. They need to lay off the soft porn though. Yes, Star Trek is notorious for hot chicks, but it needs to be understated. Beautiful women in strong intelligent roles, not beautiful women whoring it up all over the place.

If the song's not gone by Second Season, there will be a revolt, and there's nothing like angry Trekkies to ruin your day :)

So, overall, I give it an A-. It's incredibly difficult to do what they're attempting, so I can be forgiving of the little things. Longevity is another issue. But for their first go at this, they did an excellent job. Part of the charm of this series is the "newness" of space travel for these characters. They're not seasoned veterans ... they're in absolute awe of what they're doing. I really like that, and in the words of a great philospher, I'm stoked for the rest of the season.

das

rotfl

Damn-- the westcoast transmission is too poor to be worth taping also-- At least on KCOP-13 from LA... Extreme buzzing and audio problems throughout the first hour, so far...

Gawd...ain't that the truth. I loved the visual part with the shots of Man's progession into space but Trek was never meant to have a Frank Stallone sounding theme song. Gave me chills and for all the wrong reasons. Axe the song but fast!

BTW, didn't the very first version of the TOS theme music have words that went with it?

That's a common misconception, mainly because it's true, but it's not. One of Gene's many faults was that he was a power/money-hungry bastard. He was a genius who loved people and had some great qualities, but he was also greedy.

He commissioned Alexander Courage to write the theme music and fully intended to use it in the show. Sometime along the way, he realized that he could get half the money if he licensed it with words, so he wrote some incredibly lame lyrics ... "Beyond the rim of the starlight ... etc" and credited himself alongside Courage. Of course, the lyrics were never actually used, because they were stupid, and it was just a ploy to get more money, so it's argued whether or not they are actually canon.

das

OKAY,
NON Trek person here. I am actually here because my love is watching the show in the other room and I had to get away.
(Not Thread Crapping, cause I came in here with a question)...
Didn't one of those other "Trek" shows have a special where they came in contact with old clips from the "Kirk" era? Wasn't there some hokey explanation about how the Klingons looked different and everything was low tech and sh*tty???? Well, if this series takes place BEFORE Kirk and Co., how do they NOW explain the look of the klingons, non-tech stuff on the ship, etc.??? hmmmmm???
mini
PS: What the HELL is up with the bellybutton on the cover of Maxim?? -eek-
PPS: I agree about all the Buffy commercials. They also drove me away...

they came in contact with old clips from the "Kirk" era? Wasn't there some hokey explanation about how the Klingons looked different and everything was low tech and sh*tty???? Well, if this series takes place BEFORE Kirk and Co., how do they NOW explain the look of the klingons, non-tech stuff on the ship, etc.??? hmmmmm???

Yes is was DS9 tribble & tribulations. Worf said they do not speak of it with outsiders. Nothing more was ever brought up.

Hey, mini!

The episode you're talking about, I guess, is Deep Space Nine's Trials and Tribbleations where current Worf has ridges but Koloth and company from TOS era do not. His explanation is simply "we don't talk about it" and grunts. There is no canon explanation yet, but we may soon get one. Many people have adopted the theory that thos Klingons that Kirk and co. encountered were genetically altered to better infiltrate/influence/whatever other humanoid races. At that time, Klingons were heavily influenced by the Romulans, so there could be a story there. Ridges were always part of Roddenberry's vision of the Klingon, even at the beginning, but obviously it was cut due to them having a budget of $7.95 an episode.

The way they've handled the technology is quite good, I think. TOS is dials and tapes and switches. TNG is light panels and touchpads. This one is still old school but with a much more polished look about it. Braga has said that he's going to try to stick to as much continuity as possible, but he's not going to take it to far. So far, it seems like they've done a good job making the technology LOOK better for the viewer without throwing continuity out the window.

Hope that answers your questions.

das

Very much agree on all three counts. I could also do without the dog. I just picture Brannon and Rick saying "what can we add for some cute flair?" "how about a dog?" "GENIUS!" Bleck.