Where did you download the mpeg version from?

I got it from alt.binaries.multimedia ... there are also a few in alt.binaries.multimedia.startrek. My damn_server dumped all of alt.binaries.multimedia while I was halfway finished with the last rar file, so I can't build the second hour yet :/

das

Surely you could get it from Morpheus, too.

Anyone know how Enterprise did in the ratings???

Downloaded it as an avi file from Morpheus. Apparently I don't know what to do with these as all I get is sound, no video.

Says the codec is divx, if that helps.

This happened to me last week when I downloaded the Letterman monologue. What you have to do is download and install a DIVX player like The Playa (DIVX4) at divx.com. Then you can use that program to view the file, or good ol' Windows Media Player.

The doctor looks somewhat like a cardassian, it is a physician cultural exchange program, so it could be possible. I dunno.

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks II

I haven't seen the final ratings, but in the overnights it grabbed 2nd place in both timeslots with a 9.9/15. In the 8-9, it was edged out by 60 Mins II, and in the 9-10, it was beaten pretty handily by The West Wing. That second hour is pretty useless though since it will be airing in that first slot. Like I said, though, that's just the overnights, and Star Trek is notorious for big dropoffs once the rural networks check in. Still, it looks good.

das

"Our new weapons are here. They're called phase-pistols. "
"Good."
"They have two settings, stun and kill."


Hahaa...i just cracked up at those lines!

a little later

"stun works"

It's interesting to me to read all these comments bashing Enterprise for doing things too different from the other Trek series, particularly where the title song is concerned.

For the record, I don't have a problem with the song. Not at all. It works perfectly with the visuals used and conveys the message that the focus of the series is on the human drive to constantly move forward and not give up. True, the episode itself did not necessarily stick to the feel expressed by the song, but the producers said they wanted that type of feel and they at least managed it with the opening.

Voyager got bashed over its seven year run for not being different. Now that there's a Trek show that is trying to be different, people are screaming that they want it to be the same. (I particularly am amused by the argument that every other Trek series has an orchestral opening, thus Enterprise must have one as well.) How about showing some of the tolerance that Roddenberry tried to preache through these series and give this show and the various aspects of it a chance to grow on you rather than condemning parts of it completely after one episode? Hell, how many of you were the ones crying about how awful Next Gen was after "Encounter at Farpoint"? Give the show a chance to grow and iron out the wrinkles. You may even find the things you initially find distasteful will become bearable.

Tom

I must be reading another thread, because I don't see too much Enterprise bashing in here. The two main things I see is that people don't like the song, and people don't like the gratuitous sex. OK, and people don't like the fact that T'Pol doesn't act like a Vulcan. Three things.

Growth is wonderful. Change is welcomed. Change for the sake of change, however, is silly.

Orchestral theme would be great. Rock song would be great. Tribal bongos would be great. But, for me, the song doesn't work. No, it's not because I'm so short-sighted and arrogant so as not to give it a chance ... it's because it just doesn't work for me. The song is a metaphor for life that's been twisted to be taken literally for space travel. It just comes across silly to me.

Sure, we all want something different, but not when that difference just insults us ... like the rub-down scene. What the hell? Or when the difference defies the Trek universe - not nitpicking, but major changes that don't make sense.

As for Farpoint ... while it was a great introduction to the series that set the tone for what kind of television was to follow, it still had some serious problems. Just because TNG was a great series does not mean that its first episodes weren't, in some cases, dreadfully bad. Can you say "Haven" ... how about "Angel One"? Criticizing the faults of a television episode is vastly different from condemning the series. I condemn Voyager for a consistent attempt to undermine morality in Trek. I criticize the pilot of Enterprise for a few minor problems that I hope are reworked throughout the course of the series.

But, as most people have said in this thread, we LOVED the pilot and are really looking forward to this series. So, we had a few complaints ... that's hardy "bashing" the series. I fully expect T'Pol's character to evolve and grow on me (huh-huh ...) and for Blalock to grow into the Vulcan character as well, but that doesn't mean I can't criticize her performance in the pilot as being strangely emotional. When we find out she's really a Romulan, then I'll say, "Wow ... her performance was genius". Until then, I'll probably be saying, "I really admire the way Blalock has grown as a Vulcan from those first few episodes." To be fair, look at Spock. In his first few eps as a Vulcan, he was running around shouting at everything. Even the master stumbled before he figured it out.

Anyway, I'm rambling now ... just keep in mind that criticism is sometimes healthy, and few of us are bashing this new series at all.

das

das - word

Just as an interesting note...

I was talking to a non-trekkie friend about Enterprise and he loved it. He said what hooked him was the opening credits and song. I think what the creators were doing with it was trying to get non-trekkies hooked, and maybe it's doing just that.

Personally, the song didn't bother me that much either, and I can put up with it as long as they keep the stories good. But I agree with das--the insulting stuff like gratuitus sex is just stupid to put in there--for anyone watching, trekkie or non.

Well said, das Monkey. Just to reiterate, Tom Campbell, I bash the theme song not because it's different, but because it's bad--that's not meant to be a glib answer, it's just that simple...

My comment was reserved more for the people making comments like "the theme song has ruined the show for me". Everybody has a right to an opinion, a right to like or dislike aspects of the show, but letting little things like the theme music ruin it seems somewhat silly.

And, yes, if you go back to the first several pages of this thread, there are some pretty extremist comments along those lines.

Originally posted by Tom Campbell:
My comment was reserved more for the people making comments like "the theme song has ruined the show for me". Everybody has a right to an opinion, a right to like or dislike aspects of the show, but letting little things like the theme music ruin it seems somewhat silly.

Though I do believe emphatically that people should speak out when their entertainment of choice (or facets thereof) doesn't live up to its potential, I do agree with your sentiments here...

Interestingly, there is now a petition online to keep the current theme song. Take a look at http://www.PetitionOnline.com/UPN1001/petition.html .

Is anyone else waiting for Dean Stockwell to show up and pull Archer out of the Enterprise?

We agree with the decision to use "Faith of the Heart". We also see that the series creators are truly adding "energy" as well as a certain "edginess" to the show by departing from the norm

Again, I wonder what part of that "song" adds "energy" and "edginess" to the series. It's more like attending a Celine Dion concert with Kenny G as an opening act. Again, change is good; lyrical song is good; Diane Warren is bad "Departing from the norm" is wonderful, and I'm all for it, but that can't be a catch-all excuse for aspect of the show that are suckekeke.

das

Did you see that episode of The Family Guy? I don't think I've ever laughed so hard.

das

Actually, I'm waiting for the one time Archer says "Ho, boy!"

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-t...09/28/10.30.tv

loved that one

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