nipples ... wow !

and those dancer girls ? wow .. that on TV which is supposed to be kiddy stuff ... I was "impressed"

ok .. who of you creative fanboys is already working on T'Pol nude fake pics ??

the dancers reminded me of DS9...remember the early episodes had the waitresses with light bulb boobs?

I hope they do better with the west coast transmission-- I'm supposed to be taping it for my UPN-less parents...

Giantrobo-- Your local mileage may vary, but my program guide shows a repeat showing on Sunday night at 8pm...

Logically, I think they have to keep FutureGuy as the mysterious Big-Bad for the life of the whole series... They can't wrap up that storyline. Since he's trying to change the past, he's the writers' way out of the "predictablility conuundrum"--where we know everything will be fine because we already know the future. They need FutureGuy around so that the Universe can still be endangered throughout the series...

Don't get me started about the oil rubdown... I guess retro-Trek should have its fair share of T&A--it helps put the fun in the show... But perhaps they can try not to be so ridiculous about it...

No I've not seen it yet because I'm at work. But also I'm not one who gets a worked up over spoilers so don't worry(no that you were ) and I new from your title what I was getting into.

it's funny Elektra....you and I seem to have soooo much in common i.e. Comics, Star Trek, and other stuff.

I think that's cool and it's proof "We can all get along"

Peace mah sistah!!!!

YUMMY !!!!!

Thanks Adamblast!!! I figured they would.

Like I always said...you rule!!!

Ack ... somehow I missed this post. Sorry ...

Overall, I quite enjoyed it. I'm very impressed with the way they handled the consoles. Everything looks very badass, but it's still in the spirit of pre-TOS. If you recall when I was posting about all the people working on the show speaking highly of it, one of their sources of praise was the attitude on the set and the chemistry between the actors. I could easily see this. Like I said, I'm not sold on T'Pol yet. I keep wondering how Marjorie would have played the role. Playing a Vulcan could be the most difficult thing in Trek, so I'm more than villing to give her time. But the rest of the cast has incredible chemistry already, and I'm anxious to learn about all their characters. As I said earlier, I think Sato has some real potential.

It's a little cheesy, but that's one of the things that was great about TOS. It's fly by the seat of your pants television. I'm glad to see that again. It's fresh. TNG was dramatic, DS9 was dark, VOY was pretentious. It's nice to get a change of pace. They need to lay off the soft porn though. Yes, Star Trek is notorious for hot chicks, but it needs to be understated. Beautiful women in strong intelligent roles, not beautiful women whoring it up all over the place.

If the song's not gone by Second Season, there will be a revolt, and there's nothing like angry Trekkies to ruin your day

So, overall, I give it an A-. It's incredibly difficult to do what they're attempting, so I can be forgiving of the little things. Longevity is another issue. But for their first go at this, they did an excellent job. Part of the charm of this series is the "newness" of space travel for these characters. They're not seasoned veterans ... they're in absolute awe of what they're doing. I really like that, and in the words of a great philospher, I'm stoked for the rest of the season.

das

Damn-- the westcoast transmission is too poor to be worth taping also-- At least on KCOP-13 from LA... Extreme buzzing and audio problems throughout the first hour, so far...

Gawd...ain't that the truth. I loved the visual part with the shots of Man's progession into space but Trek was never meant to have a Frank Stallone sounding theme song. Gave me chills and for all the wrong reasons. Axe the song but fast!

BTW, didn't the very first version of the TOS theme music have words that went with it?

That's a common misconception, mainly because it's true, but it's not. One of Gene's many faults was that he was a power/money-hungry bastard. He was a genius who loved people and had some great qualities, but he was also greedy.

He commissioned Alexander Courage to write the theme music and fully intended to use it in the show. Sometime along the way, he realized that he could get half the money if he licensed it with words, so he wrote some incredibly lame lyrics ... "Beyond the rim of the starlight ... etc" and credited himself alongside Courage. Of course, the lyrics were never actually used, because they were stupid, and it was just a ploy to get more money, so it's argued whether or not they are actually canon.

das

OKAY,
NON Trek person here. I am actually here because my love is watching the show in the other room and I had to get away.
(Not Thread Crapping, cause I came in here with a question)...
Didn't one of those other "Trek" shows have a special where they came in contact with old clips from the "Kirk" era? Wasn't there some hokey explanation about how the Klingons looked different and everything was low tech and sh*tty???? Well, if this series takes place BEFORE Kirk and Co., how do they NOW explain the look of the klingons, non-tech stuff on the ship, etc.??? hmmmmm???
mini
PS: What the HELL is up with the bellybutton on the cover of Maxim??
PPS: I agree about all the Buffy commercials. They also drove me away...

they came in contact with old clips from the "Kirk" era? Wasn't there some hokey explanation about how the Klingons looked different and everything was low tech and sh*tty???? Well, if this series takes place BEFORE Kirk and Co., how do they NOW explain the look of the klingons, non-tech stuff on the ship, etc.??? hmmmmm???

Yes is was DS9 tribble & tribulations. Worf said they do not speak of it with outsiders. Nothing more was ever brought up.

Hey, mini!

The episode you're talking about, I guess, is Deep Space Nine's Trials and Tribbleations where current Worf has ridges but Koloth and company from TOS era do not. His explanation is simply "we don't talk about it" and grunts. There is no canon explanation yet, but we may soon get one. Many people have adopted the theory that thos Klingons that Kirk and co. encountered were genetically altered to better infiltrate/influence/whatever other humanoid races. At that time, Klingons were heavily influenced by the Romulans, so there could be a story there. Ridges were always part of Roddenberry's vision of the Klingon, even at the beginning, but obviously it was cut due to them having a budget of $7.95 an episode.

The way they've handled the technology is quite good, I think. TOS is dials and tapes and switches. TNG is light panels and touchpads. This one is still old school but with a much more polished look about it. Braga has said that he's going to try to stick to as much continuity as possible, but he's not going to take it to far. So far, it seems like they've done a good job making the technology LOOK better for the viewer without throwing continuity out the window.

Hope that answers your questions.

das

Very much agree on all three counts. I could also do without the dog. I just picture Brannon and Rick saying "what can we add for some cute flair?" "how about a dog?" "GENIUS!" Bleck.

I liked it. Minor details annoying, but overall very good.

I even liked the change in theme music (yeah yeah let
the bashing begin..).. Another Courage/Willliamsish theme
was too predictable - took balls to use that song.

What song is it btw? artist?

Decent beginning to this show. I like the look of the new vulcan .

overall the show has a bunch of potential and it looks at least like they will be a bit less PC which is very needed.

You all saw some Buffy commercials

Every one except what the HELL is up with that chick's belly button.
Eeeew.

mini

Ditto

das

excellent pilot
only thing I didn't like was the opening theme, I liked the opening visuals though.
he has his pet dog with him, cool
pointy nipples, cool except trek doesn't really need that stuff
use of ass, son of a bitch etc, cool fits with how humans are supposed to be in 2151, still a little rough
and kirk should have carried that double barreled plasma rifle when he fought klingons, it knocked that one on his ass

It's "Faith of the Heart" by Rod Stewart, originally written for the--get this--Patch Adams soundtrack.

Star Trek's new theme music comes from Patch Adams?! NOW try to still admit you like it...

oh yeah, getting James Cromwell to reprise his role as Cochrane

plus Sikes from Alien Nation, who IIRC was also in a voyager episode

I thought the show was really good. About the only problem I had was the opening music. They shoulda had it just be instrumental without the singing.. the music wasn't bad but the vocals just didn't seem right for this show. Hopefully it's just like buck rogers and only the opening show will have someone singing

I was never into star trek before really. I'd watch it sometimes if nothing else was on, but that's about it. I never followed the stories or anything really.. but I think I'll be checking this show out more. To me it's not star trek at all, it's just a new sci fi series. All the star trek episodes I've seen always just had a happy feel to em. Enterprise didn't seem like that at all to me. I kinda liked how they were all scared of the transporter thingy

Some of the things mentioned and my opinion....

Theme song - Jarring but we might get used to it.

T&A - Almost inevitable, thanks to the insane popularity of 7 of 9.

Technology - Decent. They've already got the transporter trick thing done. Hope they don't use it in every other episode. I loved the doctor being pretty much an alien quack. Also hope the Vulcan doesn't the 'magical knowledge' to get them out of every jam. But yeah, I like it that they're struggling with sensors, warp, have no shields, holodeck etc.

Cast - Good so far. Lets see how things develop. How long before the dog saves the day I wonder? Am I too cynical?

Bellybutton (outie) - yes some people have these. But the highbeams more than make up for it.

I give it a B/B+ but its way too early to judge the series of course.

oh yeah, and how do they explain that we never see these aliens again? like the doctor or the chameleon folk