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Old 12-07-06, 07:09 PM
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Database and Web Coders Help!

Okay, for those of you that in the know, how long (roughly) would it take me to teach myself enough that I am proficient?

Conversely, how much does it usually cost to build something (database, web interface, etc.)?

Background: I have never taken a coding class and have only dabbled with html and ms access.
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Old 12-07-06, 07:14 PM
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SQL 2005 express is free and the developer edition is $50
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Old 12-07-06, 07:16 PM
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How's that helping my question? =P
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Old 12-07-06, 07:22 PM
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You can try and teach yourself... designing web forms in VB.NET is pretty easy. And as al bundy mentioned, SQL Server Express is free from Microsoft, and that will handle your database needs.

But look -- there's a reason why you hire a contractor to build a deck or a mechanic to fix your car. It's easy, but you still have to have a certain amount of know-how. Programming is like any other skill... with enough time, you can master pretty much anything, but if you don't have a natural inclination for it, it can be like beating your head against a wall.

My advice: go to your local bookstore, go over to the computer section, grab a how-to book and flip through it. Just gauge your interest. If you think you might be able to follow it, buy it and take it home with you.
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How's posting in Otter helping? You are going to get responses about people's cats, their taco bell orders, what to do when you start talking to your database and then find out it has a programmer already, but it gets mistreated by the programmer, and then you just want to help it out....to be the best database it could be.

yup.

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Old 12-07-06, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Superman07
Conversely, how much does it usually cost to build something (database, web interface, etc.)?
Asking "how much does it cost/how much time does it take to build a web application" is kind of like asking "how much does it cost to fix a car?" You won't get an answer without a whole lot more information than that.

Personally, I'd recommend using a combination of PHP and MySQL. Both are heavily documented online, there's no end to the amount of sample code floating around, and the learning curve is pretty lightweight.

There are so many prebuilt freeware CMS tools out there that you probably won't even have to learn unless you're really determined.
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Old 12-08-06, 08:44 AM
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There's a lot of questions you need to research before you can get this questioin answered. I manage a group that maintains a dynamic web-interfaced reporting tool for a major telecommunications company. I employ java, Oracle SQL, HTML Microsoft SQL, UNIX (and probably some other languages that I've forgotten off the top of my head) programmers to mantain daily operations and expansion projects. In all, theres' probably 70+ years of experience with specialists in each language. What is the scope of your project or are you interested in going to school?

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Get a Mac or a Linux box and install PHP and MySQL. Both are free. Buy a PHP/MySQL book and learn it. Its not going to be real easy if you have such little experience.
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BTW, if you're already fairly familiar with HTML and don't want to learn something like php or Perl, a medium step is to learn Cold Fusion, which is just HTML with some added tags.
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Old 12-08-06, 05:34 PM
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Perhaps I over estimated my html abilities. lol.

I know it's a broad question guys, but a guy has to start somewhere.

For example, I'm assuming the answer is very, but how complex is something such as Buy.com, or Overstock.com, etc. if you were building them from scratch. And perhaps not all of the capabilities, as I realize you can add capabilities/features, but a solid foundation nonetheless.
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Old 12-08-06, 09:42 PM
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very complex

basic website, backend database, middleware applications,
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Old 12-09-06, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Superman07
Perhaps I over estimated my html abilities. lol.

I know it's a broad question guys, but a guy has to start somewhere.

For example, I'm assuming the answer is very, but how complex is something such as Buy.com, or Overstock.com, etc. if you were building them from scratch. And perhaps not all of the capabilities, as I realize you can add capabilities/features, but a solid foundation nonetheless.
Are you looking for a Shopping Cart db program for a business of yours?
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