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Old 05-28-03, 03:33 PM
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Learning ASP

I wanna learn asp so I can make some cool webpage. Anyone have any suggestions on books or websites that are a good starting point?
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Old 05-28-03, 03:59 PM
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Any particular reason you want ASP? I know a little ASP, and unfortunately, I have to learn more asp.net. My preference though is PHP. You might look into that.
The book I have for asp.net is 'asp.net unleashed' supposed to be pretty good, I haven't looked much into yet.

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Old 05-28-03, 04:07 PM
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any suggestions for php? why do you prefer that? any reason?
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Old 05-28-03, 04:35 PM
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I started doing stuff in asp, and made a few projects work ok. I then tried PHP on a whim, and was able to learn how it works much quicker, and it just seems much easier to use, for me anyway. Plus it runs on multiple platforms (linux etc), which might be handy down the line. Also it integrates very well with mysql, which I use for my projects. I haven't actually bought any books on php, just google search for the particular function I need to find at the time, and usually end up one of these:
http://www.php.net
http://www.devshed.com
http://www.phpbuilder.com
http://www.codewalkers.com
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Old 05-28-03, 04:43 PM
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Ill also agree with learning php over asp

if you want to learn asp.. take the 30 seconds it takes to put together an asp website.. look at it.. enjoy it.. and then move on

php will give you more functionality and fewer problems

all that asp really has going for it, is that its backed by microsoft.. but in this instance, its not the better product

and if your looking to take a shortcut to learning php.. you might want to check out some content managers.. phpnuke is one of the more popular.. i was playing around with xoops (and now xoops2) awhile back..

some other decent sites..
http://www.iis-resources.com (and he is using xoops2)
http://sourceforge.net/

I highly suggest you visit both of those links..

oh.. and if you want something else cool.. just to play with..
take a look at this
http://www.dhtmlcentral.com
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Old 05-28-03, 06:22 PM
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Heh ... don't get suckered in to the l33t [email protected]}{0r rhetoric. It's easy to hop on the PHP-bandwagon, but ASP is a solid language for many uses. Grand sweeping statements about PHP being better than ASP are quite silly. The reverse claim is also silly.

That being said, depending on what you want to do, PHP may very well be your best bet. It's fairly easy to learn, is already married to mySQL, and seems to be more widely available at low-cost web providers. The overhead to get set up for ASP is considerable as you have to have IIS and a legitimate database.

mySQL's great and everything, particularly since it's free, but when you encounter someone who says it's the greatest thing ever, just point them to DVDTalk's "search engine" (term used loosely). And I'm certainly not going to depend on it for any kind of sensitive business-secure data.

In short, PHP's a great and flexible language. If you want to make a web site for yourself and learn the SQL model, the PHP/mySQL combination is a very powerful and inexpensive way to go. If you're looking to prepare yourself for more business-oriented development for a future job prospect, ASP may be better for you. Again, it all depends on your needs. Each has different strengths. Just don't fall for these silly generalizations.

Regardless, ASP.NET makes both ASP and PHP cry like American Idol contestants the moment after their dreams have been shattered. If you're looking to a future in web development, start learning ASP.NET.

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Old 05-28-03, 07:42 PM
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das, as I mentioned, I have to start learning asp.net. What about it makes it substantially better than asp/php?
EDIT: oh, and does it work ok with the mysql ODBC?
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