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Old 06-30-02, 11:06 PM
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Good cheap server system w/o monitor?

Hey, guys.

I've been building my own b0xes for years, but the last one I built (Spring 1999) is getting flaky. It's time to buy a new home server. But with prices so low on ready-built systems, it no longer makes much sense to buy my own components, when I can pay a little more and get a spiffy warranty, too.

So I'm now looking into buying a stable server system. I won't be using it for games or even apps - just serving files, playing MP3s, burning CDs, and maybe network functions (software firewall, FTP/HTTP/email server) if I pick up a cable modem in the winter.

Bottom line: I'm looking for: cheap, moderately fast, and reliable, with a warranty, but without a monitor. Too bad neither Dell nor Gateway seems to offer monitor-less b0xes.

Any ideas?

- David Stein
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Old 06-30-02, 11:40 PM
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Old 07-01-02, 01:01 AM
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you can select video ready and not get a monitor

I have a $50 code for a Dimension 8200 Series


Dell Dimension 8200 Series: Dimension® 8200 Series, Pentium® 4 Processor at 2.0 GHz DS820AW [220-8258]

Memory: 256MB PC800 RDRAM 256M82 [311-1770]

Keyboard: Dell® Quietkey® Keyboard QK [310-1582]

Monitors: Video Ready w/o Monitor N [320-3000]

Video Card: New 64MB DDR NVIDIA GeForce4™ MX Graphics Card with TV-Out 64NV420 [320-0440]

Hard Drive: 40GB Ultra ATA/100 Hard Drive 40 [340-3615]

Floppy Drive: 3.5 in Floppy Drive 3 [340-1927]

Operating System: Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition WHXP [313-7222] [412-0189] [420-3079]

Mouse: MS IntelliMouse® IM [310-2757]

Network Card: 10/100 PCI Fast Ethernet NIC CNET [430-5353]

Modem: 56K Telephony Modem for Windows® XP 56KWSXP [313-1583]

CD or DVD Drive: 48x Max CD-ROM Drive CD48 [313-2561]

Sound Card: Integrated Audio with Soundblaster Pro/16 Compatibility IS [313-2758]

Speakers: Harman Kardon HK-395 Speakers with Subwoofer HK395 [313-7284]

Bundled Software: Microsoft® Works Suite 2002 with Money 2002 Standard WORKS [412-0133]

Virus Protection: Norton Antivirus® 2002, 90-day introductory offer NAV2002 [412-5623]

Digital Music: Dell Jukebox powered by MusicMatch MMBASE [412-0246]

Digital Photography: Dell Picture Studio, Image Expert Standard DPS [412-0271]

Limited Warranty, Services and Support Options: 1 Year Limited Warranty plus 1 Year At-Home Service S111OS [950-1260]
[950-3337] [950-9797]

Internet Access Options: 6 Months of America Online Membership Included AOLDHS [412-0183] [412-0258]

CD or DVD Burner for 2nd bay: FREE! New 32x/10x/40x Max CD-RW/DVD Combo Drive w/ Roxio’s Easy CD Creator® 32COM2P [461-6411] [461-6509]

for $949-$50 coupon = $899. I guess this system is overkill for your needs

my coupon ends tonight so I guess it might not help you much

I bet if you played with configuations you might find a good cheap computer from Dell without a monitor

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Originally posted by gcribbs
you can select video ready and not get a monitor

I have a $50 code for a Dimension 8200 Series

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for $949-$50 coupon = $899. I guess this system is overkill for your needs
Ouch! Yeah, huge overkill - I was hoping to spend like $500. I can easily ditch the GF4 and virtually all of the software, too. Hell, I can ditch the hard drive; a 40gb HD pales in comparison to the 180gb HD I'm planning to drop in there.

Hmm, looks like I may be custom-building after all. But hey, after cannibalizing my current system, all I really need is:
  • A case/power supply
  • A motherboard
  • A CPU (maybe AMD, to increase power/cost ratio)
  • 256mb memory
  • Crappy video card (3D optional )
...so given my very limited needs, maybe it makes no sense to look into a vendor anyway. But a warranty would sure be nice...

Any other ideas?

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Every now and then, Dell puts a $250 rebate on their Poweredge 500SC server. That makes a Celeron based server with no monitor or OS around $250. These use the serverworks chipset. They're cheap, but they're stable.
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http://www.dell.com/us/en/bsd/produc...dimen_150d.htm

$479 no monitor and free shipping.

http://www.dell.com/us/en/bsd/produc...dimen_2200.htm

$100 mail in rebate and the cheapest components gets you to $509-$100=$409

personally you could also check parts at newegg and build it yourself. although this would include a 1 year Dell warranty.

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Old 07-01-02, 07:24 PM
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Originally posted by sfsdfd


so given my very limited needs, maybe it makes no sense to look into a vendor anyway. But a warranty would sure be nice...

What’s the big deal. Even if you buy components, each component has a warranty. Unless you have really bad problems troubleshooting (even then we'll be able to help you) you'll be better off building it yourself.
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Also if you run linux you save money on an OS and it should run nicer than the latest version of Windows. Although I'm not sure about the MP3 player part, but I'm sure there is a Linux mp3 player out there (just haven't needed something like that so I'm not sure).
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PowerEdge 500SC Server Celeron 1.2Ghz 128MB/20GB CD 1yr on site warranty $499 - 100 rebate = $399 shipped free.

The window for this rebate expires today. Here's the link
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Originally posted by Gallant Pig
Also if you run linux you save money on an OS and it should run nicer than the latest version of Windows.
I can only cut corners on an OS if I would otherwise pay for it.



Thanks for the assistance, guys! I was hoping to stay away from a Celery, but in retrospect it's probably not a terrible idea. I'll probably pick up a system like this in late Fall.

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