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Old 06-25-02, 09:41 PM
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Ummm yeeah, computer won't start up....

So my other computer is actin' funy lately, nothing will burn etc. I uninstall Easy CD Creator 5, and then reboot...and the next time it boots it up it says:

"Please wait wil Windows updates your setup files...

Windows couldn't upgrade file %1 from %2.

Windows couldn't upgrade system files before starting.

If Windows fails to start, run SETUP again.

Press any key to continue..."


What the ***** happened? What does run setup mean? I hit any key to continue and nothing happens...I hit the power button (which turned it off), then booted back up, and hit F2 for setup...that pretty much made me more frustrated as I don't have nearly the computer knowledge to fix anything.

Is my computer screwed? Should I call the unhelpful people at Dell? If anyone can provide any help whatsoever, let me know. I'd be very grateful.

And in case it helps...its a Dell 8100 running on Windows ME.

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Old 06-25-02, 11:11 PM
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Well if all else fails did they give you a clean install disk? You would have to boot to dos prompt and format the old HDD then do a clean windows install. Then spend the rest of the night upgrading drivers and reinstalling all your software. Thats the best reason to run two hard drives, one for windows and one for everything else.

I think your ME has some sort of built in recovery available, if you made the disks....
Old 06-25-02, 11:32 PM
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Using a second hard drive for everything else doesn't always work. Most programs write stuff to the registry and a fresh windows install won't have that data thus forcing a reinstall of the program anyway.
Old 06-26-02, 02:56 PM
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So what should I do? Can anyone help me with SETUP...I;m not sure exactly what to do.
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call dell and see if they can walk you thru fixing this.

you might be able to get into safe mode and do something or it is possible that you need to run setup or even reinstall the operating system.

I do not own ME so I would not be too much help.

when you hit F2 does it take you to another screen? what does it say?
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Go to your bios and change the 1st boot device to your CD-ROM

Put the ME disc in it and restart

It may boot right to setup, it may give you the option to "boot with CD-Rom support", choose that

Then run "setup" from the dos promt

This will reinstall it over your existing install. You may have to reinstall some programs, but some will probably still work

Once it is installed remember to change you bios back to boot your HD first

I dont have Win ME, but this is how I go about doing it in Win 98 ad most of the time all my programs are still usable
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Jumbo that usually won't work unless you format the HDD first. If the program detects a previous version of windows it wont do a clean install. You need to actually get to the windows itself to upgrade if you dont format.
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ahh you got to love the piece meal solutions...
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try...

boot up.. hit f8 for alternate boot options
chose safe mode

go into windows through safe mode
go to start..run... and type sysedit

then let us know whats in your autoexec
if there is anything fishy, just put ' or REM to the left side of it, and it wont run the next time you boot up
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his autoexec should be blank....
windows ME
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Originally posted by TheSilverSurfer
his autoexec should be blank....
windows ME
winME doesnt use the autoexec like all other 9x versions?

didnt know that.. although the best advice is avoiding winME anyways
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Originally posted by Kevlar
Jumbo that usually won't work unless you format the HDD first. If the program detects a previous version of windows it wont do a clean install. You need to actually get to the windows itself to upgrade if you dont format.
But he would be using the same version of Windows he has now so it will work.
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yeah twikoff it cought me offguard too...
think it's becaus they were weaning towards the NT, 2000, XP realm...2000 & XP have it blank too.
as you say...not normal 9x functionality.
I always advise to stay away from ME too.
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Originally posted by twikoff
try...

boot up.. hit f8 for alternate boot options
chose safe mode

go into windows through safe mode
go to start..run... and type sysedit

then let us know whats in your autoexec
if there is anything fishy, just put ' or REM to the left side of it, and it wont run the next time you boot up
I hit f8, another screen comes up and I attempt to do anything but my keyboard doesn't seem to work after I hit F8. The light goes on when I power on the computer, but when I hit F8 and go to the other screen, I can't type anything.

So what am I doin wrong this time...?
Old 06-28-02, 02:09 PM
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do you have the winME boot disk? if not, I'll email it to ya (or MSN messenger transfer the file) if that'll help. That's where you will get the boot with/without CD-rom support is by using the boot disc. The F8 option only gives safe mode choice I think.

And I had winME for 2+years and was really, really satisfied with it.
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Originally posted by Shuki
And I had winME for 2+years and was really, really satisfied with it.


oh sorry.. couldnt resist

if you were satisfied with it, you have very low expectations

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