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Old 04-21-02, 10:02 AM
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How do I get more than 17 MP3's on a CD-R?

just now getting a CD-burner and heard you can get up to 4 hrs of MP3's and do not know how to do this and neither does 2 friends who have burners. Reason I ask this question is I was in Circuit city and saw some 3" cd-r's that said you could get 4 hrs of MP3's at 128kbps on 1 disc. The CC employee came over to see what I needed and I asked how you could get 4 hrs on 1 of those and not a regular sized CD, he promptly told me that those 3" CD's were like a zip disc.
Now I didn't believe him at all and just went ok and that was that, but am still left wondering is he right or not? If I right then how do I go about getting 3-4 hrs of MP3's on a CD-r, and does it matter is it's a data or music CD-r?
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I think you may be getting a little confused here.

If you burn MP3's to a cd just as regular files, then you can fit a crapload of MP3's on, depending on how big each MP3 file is.

If however (and I think this is what you're doing) you burn the MP3's as CD-Audio tracks then you won't be able to fit more than what the cd is rated (ie. 74 minutes - 80 minutes).
You have to keep in mind that when you make an Audio CD the burning program is converting the MP3's into another format.

So in your burner program, don't choose to make an Audio CD. Just make a regular ISO CD with files and folders, and put the MP3's on. Of course then you won't be able to play the cd in a DVD/CD Player. Only on a computer or MP3-CD player.

Hope that helps.
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fmian is correct.

to clarify another part of your question: there's nothing magic about those little CDs. they're just normal CD-Rs, just smaller and consequently hold LESS data.
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4 hours of mp3 data, not audio files.
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Re: How do I get more than 17 MP3's on a CD-R?

Originally posted by Brewc
Reason I ask this question is I was in Circuit city and saw some 3" cd-r's that said you could get 4 hrs of MP3's at 128kbps on 1 disc.
there's no way you can get 4 hours of mp3's on a 3" disc. not at 128 anyway. that's either false advertising or maybe you misread the box?
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Re: Re: How do I get more than 17 MP3's on a CD-R?

Originally posted by monkeyboy


there's no way you can get 4 hours of mp3's on a 3" disc. not at 128 anyway. that's either false advertising or maybe you misread the box?
He can get 4 hours of mp3's on there, but in data format that you can play in an mp3 discman or mp3 car stereo...etc.


It's just deceptive advertising, and people who do not know better will think they can burn that much audio on it.
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Re: Re: Re: How do I get more than 17 MP3's on a CD-R?

Originally posted by PunkYou


He can get 4 hours of mp3's on there, but in data format that you can play in an mp3 discman or mp3 car stereo...etc.


It's just deceptive advertising, and people who do not know better will think they can burn that much audio on it.
Can you still do that with a mini disc though (isn't a mini-disc about 3"?)
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Re: Re: Re: Re: How do I get more than 17 MP3's on a CD-R?

Originally posted by Lampei


Can you still do that with a mini disc though (isn't a mini-disc about 3"?)
MD is another audio format. It's not the same as MP3. MD has a technology called MDLP which will allow you to record @ a higher compression to double or qualtriple the capacity of the MD. I normally use the 2x compression to get 148 minutes or 160 minutes from a 74/80 minutes MD. You will not notice the quality unless you got dog ears or some really expensive audio equipment to distingush the two.
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Re: Re: Re: How do I get more than 17 MP3's on a CD-R?

Originally posted by PunkYou


He can get 4 hours of mp3's on there, but in data format that you can play in an mp3 discman or mp3 car stereo...etc.
It's just deceptive advertising, and people who do not know better will think they can burn that much audio on it.
i guess i didn't realize how many MB's a 3" disk held. i was thinking maybe 100 MB max, which would be about 25 songs, but it's more like 180 MB on a 3" disk, so i guess, theoretically, you could get 4 hours on there.
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If you're talking about regular CD sized CD-Rs, you can fit about 8-10 hours of songs on there. I rip all my MP3s at 168 kbps, and I can still fit all those songs on there.
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Thanks for the help! Your right I want them to play on a regular CD player.
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the moral: never listen to ANYTHING an employee of circuit city (or just about any other retailer) tells you about computers or electronics. they're either full of carp or just want to sell you a worthless warranty.
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Originally posted by Brewc
Thanks for the help! Your right I want them to play on a regular CD player.
Ah, but if you're talking about a regular CD player (i.e. a stereo CD player, or a car CD player) then you must use the regular audio format to make your CDs (74 minutes). If it can accept MP3s (as some car CD players now do), then go right ahead and burn as MP3. I love it
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I never really counted the hours...isnt it something like 700MB or so is all you should put on one?
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700 MB is about the max for an 80 minute CD... You can usually go a few megs over.

For mp3 encoded at 128 kbps, 1 minute roughly equals one megabyte. So, on an 80 minute disc, that's roughly 11.7 hours of music in mp3 format, encoded at 128.
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There are cd players that play mp3's now right? (in .mp3 format, not .cda format) I'd imagine that they are pretty expensive now since they are relatively new. Imagine if a audio dvd player came out that supported .mp3 ! A dvd holds what 4.7 gigs? With each song at roughly 4 or 5 megs, that's like a 1000 high quality songs !
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Um, CD players that can play MP3 CDs have been around a few years. They'r enot all that expensive, really. I have one in my car... by brother has a portable unit, sorta like a Discman. In fact, there are now Discmans that can play MP3 CDs.

And DVD players already exist that can decode MP3 CDs. So I would assume if you burned a DVD with MP3 files you could play all 100 hours of MP3 audio...
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memorex portable mp3 cd player with headphones, car kit, and ac adapter cost $100 when it first came out, over a year ago

panasonic rp56 dvd player, can play mp3s from cdr or cdrw discs $220

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