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Old 03-24-02, 11:28 AM
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Need suggestions on new Motherboard / CPU.

I'm looking to upgrade my mobo/CPU and am looking for suggestions as to what to get. I'm thinking about the P4T, but I've heard there are some problems with that. Can somebody suggest a better P4 or Athlon mobo. Also a CPU recommendation would be helpful. Mobo shouldn't be more than $200 and CPU not more than $150. Thanks!
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I have the MSI nForce board and an Athlon XP 1800+. Excellent system.
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P4 1.6a & Asus P4B266

until amd can put out a .13 micron processor, these are the way to go..

this 1.6a seems to easily be overclockable to 2.4ghz with little to no work or experience.. and up as high as 3.8+ ghz, if your really willing to push it

we have had a few threads on this processor here

and you can find long detailed discussions on this board and processor over at anandtech
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Originally posted by twikoff
P4 1.6a & Asus P4B266

until amd can put out a .13 micron processor, these are the way to go..

this 1.6a seems to easily be overclockable to 2.4ghz with little to no work or experience.. and up as high as 3.8+ ghz, if your really willing to push it

we have had a few threads on this processor here

and you can find long detailed discussions on this board and processor over at anandtech
what's a P4 1.6a? What's the 'a' for?
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Originally posted by huzefa


what's a P4 1.6a? What's the 'a' for?
just that its the .13 micron Northwood processor (socket 478)

if your getting a P4, you definitly want to get a Northwood chip.. otherwise, you would be much better of going with amd

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Originally posted by twikoff


just that its the .13 micron Northwood processor (socket 478)

if your getting a P4, you definitly want to get a Northwood chip.. otherwise, you would be much better of going with amd
Is northwood the new P4 chip or is Willammette the new one? they're both 478-pin.
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Originally posted by huzefa


Is northwood the new P4 chip or is Willammette the new one? they're both 478-pin.
northwood is the new .13 micron chip

and
Just two weeks ago Intel officially introduced the successor to the Pentium 4 under the codename Prescott. To be released in the second half of 2003, Prescott will be Intel's first 0.09-micron (90nm) CPU that will feature the following:

- Hyper-Threading technology
- Micro-architectural enhancements
- Additional L2 cache
- 800MHz FSB (200MHz Quad-Pumped)
- 90nm manufacturing process
- Close to 100,000,000 transistors
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this quote is well outdated.. but the info is basically there


Before we will get to the latest developments and ideas of AMD, we should start with the latest Intel stuff, simply because it is shorter, easier to understand and because it is IDF time, where Intel is 'architecting the digital universe' for all the poor bastards that think that the many billion year old analog universe just ain't good enough.

Right now Intel is shipping samples of future Pentium 4 processors with the 0.13 micron core 'Northwood' to OEMs, at core clocks of 2 and 2.2 GHz. Those samples are of 'A2'-stepping, but running just fine, even though the A2-microcode (that is always used to fix minor processor bugs and usually found in the motherboard's BIOS) is only in beta stage. As we already know, the future 'Northwood' Pentium 4 will have 512 kB second level cache, which is one reason why its performance is superior to that of the current 'Willamette' Pentium 4. The 0.13 micron process ensures a lower power dissipation, so that Northwood will remain cooler than Willamette, at least at clock speeds of 2 and 2.2 GHz.

Northwood's performance advance over Willamette is just enough to equalize the performance loss that you encounter when running Pentium 4 in a i845 motherboard with PC133 SDRAM instead of an i850 motherboard with PC800 RDRAM. Therefore the 'Northwoods' will be some 5-10% faster than current Pentium 4 processors at the same clock, which is due to more than just the doubled L2-cache size. Other architectural improvements that haven't been disclosed yet are also responsible for the improved performance.
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Is this a northwood chip? I'm thinking it is 'cuz its 512K L2cache and it's 478 pin but it doesn't explicitly say so.

Intel Pentium 4 1.8GHz 256K Socket 478 Processor 400MHz Processor Bus- Retail Box version with Fan (CPU ONLY NO RAMBUS RAM) Model#: BX80531NK180G Special FedEx Saver Shipping $6.95

The description is from www.newegg.com

Twikoff, the above CPU work with the P4B266-C, right?
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Originally posted by huzefa

Twikoff, the above CPU work with the P4B266-C, right?
yep.. that one will work

if your not planning to upgrade.. then it may be worth the extra cash to get the 1.8 instead
if your looking to overclock, i would suggest getting the 1.6
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Intel Pentium 4 1.6A GHz 512K Socket 478 Processor Bus $133

Asus P4B266-C Intel 845D chipset ATX Motherboard-OEM Supports Socket 478 for FC-PGA2 Pentium® 4 (Willamette/Northwood) 1.4GHz to 2.4GHz+. FSB: 400 MHz. Memory: 2 x DDR DIMM Sockets, Max. 2GB unbuffered PC2100/PC1600 ECC/non-ECC DDR SDRAM Memory. 6 PCI slots, 1 x AGP. Up to 4 USB. NO AUDIO. NO LAN. Model#: P4B266-C Special FedEx Saver Shipping $5.00

Asus P4B266 Intel 845D chipset ATX Motherboard Supports Socket 478 for FC-PGA2 Pentium® 4 (Willamette/Northwood) 1.4GHz to 2.4GHz+. FSB: 400 MHz. Memory: 3 x DDR DIMM Sockets, Max. 2GB unbuffered PC2100/PC1600 ECC/non-ECC DDR SDRAM Memory. 6 PCI slots, 1 x AGP. Model#: P4B266 Special FedEx Saver Shipping $5.00
not positive.. but I think I remember reading people on anandtech trying to discourage people from buying the C version.. dont remember the reason though
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As far as I could see, there are some USB 1.1 issues with the P4B266-c and MS Optical mice (which I have). But this issue only pops up at O/C time. I don't plan to O/C and even if I do, I have a USB hub somewhere to help take care of the issue. Besides that there is also some problem with 1:1 Mem ratio at 133FSB, but again that's something that only pops up at O/C time. Anyway, thanks for all ur help, ppl. I went with the 1.8a and the P4B266-c. Any recommendations on RAM? I'm thinking crucial, since BB has a $10 rebate on it this week and I can also PM it with my Blue card.

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