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A state/county/city/whatever library funding issue, sure, but if the fees demanded are what they seem to be (hardly better in Hoopla's case and much worse in Kanopy's, than a digital rental from any other service), then Kanopy and Hoopla are just as much to blame for setting such terms while telling users "but it's free to you!"

Fuck 'em. Every library should dump their ass.
Fuck counties that don't fund their libraries well, too, but this seems to be a separate issue than that.

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Got to settle some fees this weekend, but loving the selection of Kanopy. I can't log in to see what my library offers specifically until I pay some fees but the overall selection looks good.

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I wouldn't put the blame on the carriers. The studios basically said that this is how much you're going to charge libraries. It technically is "free" to the user, though. I'm lucky that I have almost half a dozen library memberships that all support both Kanopy and Hoopla, so no sweat off of my brow. The irony is that my actual library system that I belong to does not subscribe to either service. We did do a tester a couple of years ago and it was great but we never subscribed to it. I was never given an actual reason why just the standard "we'll take a look at it at a later time," which probably meant that we could not afford patrons renting movies/material for $3.99 a pop. I only found out about the rate when I asked and was given the exact details. It stemmed from this forum and a few posts back during the Twitter debate and how some library systems were dropping the service or those systems that already had it were having errors.

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^ Yeah, that's a good point overall. Funny how you have all those memberships, but your actual library system doesn't support it. I still have a membership with my library back home, but I forgot my password so I can't use it for that.
In any case.. Harris County has re-added Kanopy for a limited time; 6 weeks. As they sort this out. Must have got some push back or an agreement from Kanopy to negotiate or something. I do think those rates are too high, though, so hopefully something positive comes out if it.

I tested out OverDrive recently, and it seems to work ok. The difference with that service is that the library buys a digital copy (or multiple copies) that can then be loaned out to users, one at a time. The upside is that it seems that they pay a one-time fee for the title, not recurring fees for every time it gets watched. I loaned out a copy of Tell No One but the audio was messed up. Contacted OverDrive and they've already responded, saying they'd get it fixed. I wonder if OverDrive discussion belongs in this same thread, since it's also a library-based service.

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^ Overdrive is mainly used for audiobooks and what not. We have 3 apps that we're friendly with for E-services. Cloud Library (formerly 3M Cloud Library), Overdrive, and Libby. Libby is my favorite because it is intuitive - one would think that Apple created it. The ironic part is that it's owned by Overdrive. I use Libby mainly for e-books and I can stack all of my library memberships to it and go back and forth. My system lets me check out up to 10 e-books at a time. Other systems may let you check out 5 up to 25. Licensing is different, as you mentioned.

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Boooooo.


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...e9be2c1249.jpg

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I was just about to comment on that.

Here's more details on that. I see it as a double edged sword. It's expensive for the library's to implement it and even harder to get folks to use it based on library membership. Also, Kanopy was going to raise rates. I don't know exactly how much my library systems that carry Kanopy pay for licensing fees, but I do know that Hoopla is about $3.99 per view, whether it's a film, audiobook, book, music, or graphic novel. Hoopla caps it at 5 credits per person per library system.

https://variety.com/2019/digital/new...es-1203252503/

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I would think that percentage of users would be higher if more knew about it. A movie fan would join the library just for the free service.

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I've been meaning to bump this thread. I've been trying to watch a documentary on Hoopla over the last couple of days, but keep getting stopped as it says my library has reached their cap for the day. So I guess they are regulating how many people can "borrow" per day now.

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Yep, I knew about Shadow, but good to see Mr. Mercedes on there. I have not seen the second season of it yet.

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I wonder if it boils down to how much the Library paid/pays for the service. I keep bouncing up against the limit of 5 episodes/shows each month. This month I mistakenly selected an episode I already watched but it counted it again. Now I need to wait until next month to finish the second season of Teachers.

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My library only has a 4 item limit. The solution is to try to find another free library in your state that offers the service to register with. For example, here in MA anyone can register with the Boston Public Library and they get give you a digital card immediately.

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I have several library cards from like 5-6 different systems and my Kanopy/Hoopla credits always stack up. This will obviously not be possible in small town/rural areas that may only have access to one library system.

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I just borrowed. Guess my library is fine with paying for it. It does seem to have a good budget. They're always having nice art exhibits and activities.

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I’m sure it’s only certain regions, but with the libraries closing they are increasing the rental limits on Hoopla and Kanopy. Mine went from 10 to 30.

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My Library isn't affiliated with Kanopy but I did just check and Hoopla is up from 5 to 10 per month. :thumbsup:

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Hoopla = 20
Kanopy =12

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My library doubled its Hoopla loans from 4 to 8. Nice. Time to check out Nude Nuns with Big Guns. :)

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Hoopla = 26
Kanopy = 24

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Got an email from Kanopy saying that certain films will be "credit-free," so as not to go against the credits you have. Noice!

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I get 20 on hoopla.
no Kanaopy for me.

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I don't think you're in danger of using all your credits. :)

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My Hoopla account (Orange County, CA) still says only 6 can be borrowed.

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Limit here is still 5 per month. Just watched my first movie on it, picture quality was pretty bad but can't complain too much about free. Wonder if they take donations?

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I wonder if it was the specific movie or they are reducing resolution for bandwidth reasons? I've not watched anything there for a few weeks and I recall it was decent quality at the time.

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Our state library announced today that Hoopla was now available.
We get 4... :sad:
Doesn't seem to be anything all that great so far. Hopefully they'll be adding to it soon.

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It's not that great honestly. Only thing is that it's free, however, the library has to cough up the money to pay the licensing fees for the movies. Selection is very Meh and streaming quality is barely HD.

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There is a LOT more content than what shows on the menu screens. Search for a title or actor and you'll get other results. Lots of horror and low-brow stuff that has little to no literary or educational value, kind of like the DVDs I've seen at the local libraries.

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Use the Hoopla website instead of the app. The Roku app has only a handful of movies listed. The website has over 9000+ movies. Use the site to build a Favorites list, then you can watch them on the app.

https://www.hoopladigital.com/

Unfortunately, it looks like they lost all the Disney stuff. They had a great selection of classic Disney movies.

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I finally downloaded Hoopla which is now on the FireStick. Connected to my Library and found some British TV to stream. Catching up on Line of Duty Season 5 and an Aussie show 800 words.

Works great for me, 10 rental/borrows per month. The streaming quality is mixed, but Line of Duty and 800 words both look pretty solid

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I recently started using Kanopy through my library. We get 3 credits per month.
I found lots of good stuff to watch, including:

A Most Violent Year
Ex Machina
Let the Right One In
Obvious Child
Life After Beth
The Spectacular Now
mid90s
Glengarry Glen Ross
Donnie Darko
Blue Velvet
Eighth Grade
Moonlight
Parasite
Memento
The Lobster
The Man from Nowhere
Good Time
A Ghost Story
The Babadook
Hereditary
Daddy Longlegs
The Florida Project

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Kanopy is great and I get 6 credits per month. Hoopla library is less desirable for me but I get 15 credits per month.

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Has anyone tried using the Hoopla app lately? Terrifier 2 is on Hoopla and I was trying to watch it. The app on my iPad crashed multiple times during playback. I then tried watching Hoopla on my Roku and the app also crashed again multiple times.

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I rarely use it because it streams in SD for a lot of stuff.

If you want to watch Terrifier 2, I’d say just sign up for a free trial of ScreamBox and cancel after watching (you should still get the full trial time).

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Hoopla worked on my Apple TV without crashing, so I did finish out.

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I've had problems with Hoopla using my Roku. It would kick me out to the main Roku menu, I'd reopen Hoopla and continue. Sometimes multiple times to finish anything.

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Yeah, it's most stable on Apple TV. I watched Cobb (Ty Cobb bio-pic with Tommy Lee Jones) a couple of weeks ago and it played fine.