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TomOpus 07-27-22 07:06 PM

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Started watching Edge of the Earth. Noticed I'd already watched the first episode. Sometimes I'll put on an outdoor adventure doc.

Episode 2 was great. Drama, tension and an impossible white-water kayaking. That French gal was a real spitfire.

One thing I love about these docs is how gorgeous the scenery is in hi-def.

Kurt D 07-27-22 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TomOpus (Post 14139073)
Started watching Edge of the Earth. Noticed I'd already watched the first episode. Sometimes I'll put on an outdoor adventure doc.

Episode 2 was great. Drama, tension and an impossible white-water kayaking. That French gal was a real spitfire.

One thing I love about these docs is how gorgeous the scenery is in hi-def.

Agreed, the 3000-foot granite cliffs etc. look AMAZING in ep 3, the white-water one was insane too

TomOpus 07-28-22 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Kurt D (Post 14139154)
Agreed, the 3000-foot granite cliffs etc. look AMAZING in ep 3,

When they were hanging off the side of the cliff and shut off their light to go to sleep, that would freak TF outta me. I salute those that do it.

OldBoy 07-28-22 01:24 PM

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S3 of Harley Quinn starts today, right?

DJariya 07-28-22 01:51 PM

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The new Pretty Little Liars series Original Sin dropped today on HBO Max. It's also TV-MA and a more horror version. I do plan to watch it. But, I'm not going to do a thread for it as this forum completely checked out of the original show and I don't think it's a show that fits the interests of the folks who do visit TV Talk.


TheBigDave 07-28-22 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 14139328)
The new Pretty Little Liars series Original Sin dropped today on HBO Max. It's also TV-MA and a more horror version. I do plan to watch it. But, I'm not going to do a thread for it as this forum completely checked out of the original show and I don't think it's a show that fits the interests of the folks who do visit TV Talk.

Is this an ongoing show or a limited series? Can you go into this blind, or do you need to watch the original series first?

I don't watch many TV shows these days. But I just finished Yellowjackets last week, and that was great. So I'm looking for another show. This one sounds like it might be fun.

DJariya 07-28-22 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBigDave (Post 14139371)
Is this an ongoing show or a limited series? Can you go into this blind, or do you need to watch the original series first?

I don't watch many TV shows these days. But I just finished Yellowjackets last week, and that was great. So I'm looking for another show. This one sounds like it might be fun.

New characters and new story, but still based off the original source material, which was a book series. You don’t need to watch the original show. The writer of the book series is also an EP of this new version. They never promoted it as limited. The season is 10 episodes and three dropped today.

DJariya 07-29-22 04:14 PM

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HBO Max is cutting live action kids and family programming. They just cancelled a kids live action show called The Gordita Chronicles.


fujishig 07-29-22 04:20 PM

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I'll be honest, I didn't even know this premiered, and I had completely forgotten about Head of the Class.

DJariya 07-29-22 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 14139844)
I'll be honest, I didn't even know this premiered, and I had completely forgotten about Head of the Class.

I mean. I can understand why. I don't think live action kids and family shows get much talk or hype. Animation dominates all the talk. And it's next to impossible to keep up with it all in addition to adult shows.

lwhy? 07-29-22 04:29 PM

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The Head of the Class reboot was a terrible idea. They cast a 23 year old actress as the teacher. it was never going to work. The trailer for Gordita Chronicles actually looked good.

windom 08-02-22 05:27 PM

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Some pretty major changes coming for HBO Max if Grace Randolph is right about this.


fujishig 08-02-22 05:29 PM

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RIP HBO Max once they get rid of scripted content (which is basically what Discovery already is). I'm not sure how big the audience is for exclusive streamed reality shows but they're about to find out.

I would never forgive them if they touched Doom Patrol, Peacemaker, and Harley Quinn (unless they rolled them back into DC unlimited or something)

whotony 08-02-22 05:46 PM

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So they think Discovery is a better name brand then HBO?
Is it?

Deftones 08-02-22 05:49 PM

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LMAO if this happens. HBO is basically dead. A once prestigious thing is relegated to a tab in some shitty reality show app. Can someone big just offer to buy HBO and maybe DC?

Red Hood 08-02-22 06:08 PM

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I thought that WB had hit rock bottom with the AT&T merger but Discovery has proved me wrong. They are right on the spot on fucking the whole WB properties in lieu of giving their shitty brand the top billing. Between cancelling scripted programming at TBS/TNT, screwing HBOMAX and apparently merging it into Discovery instead of the other way around and now cancelling the release of the completed Batgirl movie, this company and their CEO have proven to be the most inept one yet. I mean, I already knew they were fucking stupid with the firings of top executives that were well liked and respected in the industry but now, with all these debacles one after the other, it seems they are in the run for worst company ever

DJariya 08-02-22 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Deftones (Post 14141801)
LMAO if this happens. HBO is basically dead. A once prestigious thing is relegated to a tab in some shitty reality show app. Can someone big just offer to buy HBO and maybe DC?

Yeah unless some major trade reports it, I call bullshit on that rumor from Randolph. If that is true, that basically means HBO Max is cancelling Peacemaker, Titans, Doom Patrol. Tokyo Vice, Harley Quinn and more. You basically fuck over James Gunn on Peacemaker season 2. Unless they plan to transfer all those shows to regular HBO, which really doesn't make sense.

Randolph has passed off bad scoops before and James Gunn has called her out on it.


dex14 08-02-22 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 14141837)
Yeah unless some major trade reports it, I call bullshit on that rumor from Randolph. If that is true, that basically means HBO Max is cancelling Peacemaker, Titans, Doom Patrol. Tokyo Vice, Harley Quinn and more. You basically fuck over James Gunn on Peacemaker season 2. Unless they plan to transfer all those shows to regular HBO, which really doesn't make sense.

Randolph has passed off bad scoops before and James Gunn has called her out on it.

I liked this gem. He's not the only one either.

Why So Blu? 08-02-22 06:39 PM

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Randolph has passed off bad scoops before and James Gunn has called her out on it.
She just tried to pass off the Batgirl cancellation as fake according to "sources," but changed her mind when she saw everyone else had confirmed it then added that her "actual sources" said it was canceled.

DJariya 08-02-22 06:44 PM

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Randolph is not an entertainment journalist. Otherwise she would have a job at Deadline or THR. She's a former comic writer who is YouTube entertainment pundit, and thinks she's a journalist.

DJariya 08-02-22 07:05 PM

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I pretty much only watch HBO content on HBO Max as it's much easier to watch it there than via a DVR recording off the linear broadcast and episodes of shows get posted right away as their air EST.

You risk damaging a 40+ year old brand name with prestige in cable to dump it as a "sub channel" in the fucking Discover plus app.

fujishig 08-02-22 07:31 PM

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Talk me off the ledge, James Gunn...



This just seems beyond brutal, though, and all for a tax write off?


DJariya 08-02-22 09:36 PM

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Ugh I feel bad for the crew of the Scoob sequel as well. He must be heartbroken that he and his staff have to turn off their computers after all the work they put in.

I liked the 1st Scoob movie and would have watched the sequel.

Mike86 08-02-22 10:42 PM

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Glad that at least Peacemaker is safe but this sounds like a shit deal all around otherwise.

tonyc3742 08-03-22 08:49 AM

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I hope that's clueless BS, but even if it is, it's spreading FUD.
HBOMax is my current favorite streamer.

I have never watched anything on Discovery, and highly unlikely would subscribe to a Plus.

How does this even make sense? Discovery is sharks and reality bullshit, HBO is decades of premium content, DC, Ghibli, TCM, etc etc.

I don't know how many people are getting it, and it seems penny wise/pound foolish to toss the long time branding of HBO to save this relatively small amount of money, but this would allow them to stop offering HBOMax for 'free' to AT&T customers with certain AT&T services. "We don't have HBOMax anymore, so you have to pay for Discovery, we didn't lie or cancel the freebie/discount."

"Unscripted" programming is a plague on television and society.

dex14 08-03-22 10:25 AM

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RichC2 08-03-22 10:38 AM

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Apparently they have until mid-August to get their write-offs in order.

DJariya 08-03-22 11:58 AM

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It sounds like Zaslav really hates what his predecessor did with HBO, WB and HBO Max and is trying to make cuts now to make up for the hundreds of millions in losses they took last year.

Decker 08-03-22 12:06 PM

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I don't like this direction HBO Max is going. AT ALL.

DJariya 08-03-22 12:09 PM

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I never watched any of those Max original movies and it’s likely that most won’t even notice they’re gone. But it still sucks that those movies are bought and paid for and owned by the corporation, but the new CEO thinks dumping them is helping them.

lwhy? 08-03-22 01:18 PM

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HBO Max is the best streaming service and I hate to see what's happening to it.

DJariya 08-03-22 02:18 PM

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Ugh I hate to see anyone lose their jobs, but it looks like there will be a bloodbath at HBO Max.


DJariya 08-03-22 02:23 PM

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Apparently the movies and probably more stuff being removed have not performed well and are being dumped for partial Tax write offs. So I’m sure there are more Max originals that haven’t performed well. I wouldn’t be surprised if they dump Raised by Wolves 2 seasons since it’s now canceled.


windom 08-03-22 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 14142306)
I wouldn’t be surprised if they dump Raised by Wolves 2 seasons since it’s now canceled.

Damn, I hope not. I still need to watch most of the season. I hope they give some advance warning before removing shows like that.

windom 08-03-22 02:36 PM

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Oh, no...HBO Max won't be showing the already completed third season of the animated "Little Ellen" show!

https://deadline.com/2022/08/little-...ax-1235084429/

Did anyone here even know that there was cartoon about a young Ellen DeGeneres?

fujishig 08-03-22 03:29 PM

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So can someone explain how just pulling already finished and aired productions from the streaming service can be considered some kind of tax write off?

lwhy? 08-03-22 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 14142353)
So can someone explain how just pulling already finished and aired productions from the streaming service can be considered some kind of tax write off?

https://www.indiewire.com/2022/08/hbo-max-removed-6-streaming-movies-1234747761/ Content costs can be amortized — or assigned a cost that gets recognized by an entity across multiple years — over the program or film’s expected lifetime. If years on that timeline remain, a company can remove that asset from distribution and use its remaining cost balance to offset taxable income elsewhere. (There’s also a non-monetary perk of cleaning house, according to our source: The service may be more likely to not overwhelm subscribers with content choices.)

The accounting practice is not a new one, but it’s under the microscope at the moment — especially given the “Batgirl” bombshell. On Tuesday, Warner Bros. Discovery’s decision to straight-up cancel the release of the completed (save some reshoots), straight-to-streaming movie “Batgirl” shocked Hollywood. With options to release the Leslie Grace-starring DC Comics movie on Max as planned, or to invest tens of millions more and pivot to theatrical, David Zaslav chose neither. So you’ll never see that movie, which included the return of Michael Keaton as Batman, and Zaslav’s accountants probably didn’t see their families for weeks, figuring that one out.

LorenzoL 08-03-22 03:51 PM

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So far all the moves made after the merger has weakened HBO Max as a streaming service. How can the top brass think that by merging the HBO Max service into the Discovery+ app (as per rumour) and eliminating streaming content would help compete against Netflix and Disney+?

Jay G. 08-03-22 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 14142353)
So can someone explain how just pulling already finished and aired productions from the streaming service can be considered some kind of tax write off?

From the IndieWire article:
https://www.indiewire.com/2022/08/hb...es-1234747761/

Content costs can be amortized — or assigned a cost that gets recognized by an entity across multiple years — over the program or film’s expected lifetime. If years on that timeline remain, a company can remove that asset from distribution and use its remaining cost balance to offset taxable income elsewhere. (There’s also a non-monetary perk of cleaning house, according to our source: The service may be more likely to not overwhelm subscribers with content choices.)

The accounting practice is not a new one, but it’s under the microscope at the moment — especially given the “Batgirl” bombshell.
It's not really clear what "remove from distribution" means in this context. Like, for how long? Forever? Until past the film's "expected lifetime," whatever that is? I'd expect a films lifetime would be 95 years, the length of time it retains copyright protection and can be exclusively monetized. But it seems studios probably use a much shorter timeframe.

Also from the IW article:

Media analysts — and the just media — will get an explanation of the [WB-Discovery] strategy during Thursday afternoon’s Warner Bros. Discovery Q2 earnings conference call, we’re told.
So maybe some additional info tomorrow.

Red Hood 08-03-22 04:07 PM

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If this is the direction that Discovery wants to take HBOMAX and its properties, then fine by them. I for one will unsubscribe from the service I had since day 1 when they decide to merge it with Discovery+ and focus on shitty reality tv. Won’t support this assholes idea of entertainment because they are cheap assholes with the vision of a 2000’s tv executive


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