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TheBigDave 04-05-15 11:20 PM

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The next Apple TV won't play 4K video

The long-rumored Apple TV update is expected to do many things, including run apps and stream a TV service, but there's one thing it isn't expected to do: play 4K video. A source for BuzzFeed News' John Paczkowski (who's historically accurate with such rumors) claims that Apple's upcoming media hub will stick to 1080p because 4K technology is "still in its infancy." While the A8 chip rumored to be in the device can handle the ultra-high resolution, the market just isn't there yet. Even Amazon and Netflix don't have a lot of 4K content, and there's also the question of finding enough people with both compatible TVs and sufficiently speedy internet access. That's disappointing if you were hoping to get a truly future-proof box, but it's hard to see Apple investing a lot of money into services that you probably won't use for a while.

http://www.engadget.com/2015/04/05/n...next-apple-tv/

Dr. DVD 04-07-15 08:28 PM

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I got my device yesterday and for some reason it is only playing audio on certain apps. Ones like Youtube, History, and FX are doing fine, but HBO and Netflix have no sound.

HN 04-15-15 09:54 AM

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Stupid Apple TV gives a splash / promo screen about HBO Now when i go to airplay something and have to go to the remote app to 'click' the Continue button to close it in order to play my video :mad:

TheBigDave 05-13-15 06:41 PM

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AppleTV has added the USA Now app. You have to authenticate your TV provider.

They have the complete seasons for:

Suits: Season 4
Chrisley Knows Best: Season 2
Satisfaction: Season 1
Dig: Season 1

Other shows like White Collar, Sirens, Graceland, Burn Notice and Benched are just a handful of recent episodes.

Mikael79 05-13-15 10:19 PM

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Chrisly Knows Best is proof that there is no God.

Mabuse 05-19-15 04:42 PM

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Troubleshooting question. Just set up apple tv. Everything runs great. I can stream music.

Hulu works, I'm watching a show right now, but Netflix won't work at all. I can't even get past the "set up account" screen. It says "Netflix not available at this time."

Again, Hulu works but Netflix is dead. What's the deal?

LorenzoL 05-19-15 06:52 PM

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That's weird. Are you using a service like Unblock Us? I don't see why Netflix would not work if you are in the US and not changing location.

Quack 05-19-15 07:34 PM

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I've had recent issues with it just giving me an error when I want to watch an episode of a show, I usually just unplug and reboot and it solves the problem.

Mabuse 05-19-15 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by LorenzoL (Post 12486563)
That's weird. Are you using a service like Unblock Us? I don't see why Netflix would not work if you are in the US and not changing location.

I'm in the US and I don't even know what Unblock Us is so I don't think I'm using it. I think the device may be faulty. I have 3 days to return.

LorenzoL 05-19-15 08:37 PM

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Have you reboot it like Quack indicated? Unplug it. Wait at least 10 seconds and reboot it. See if that works. If not exchange it.

Mabuse 05-20-15 12:48 PM

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I've rebooted it and everything else. Several times. Going to try a Roku today.

Supermallet 05-28-15 08:20 PM

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Any thoughts on the expecting Apple TV refresh at WWDC on June 8th? Word is that it will have an app store, a new remote with a touchpad, an A8 chip, but will not handle 4K video. It's also rumored to be the hub for HomeKit, which would be great instead of having multiple hubs for different products. And the other big rumor is that it's going to debut with Apple's cable alternative TV subscription service.

RichC2 05-29-15 07:54 AM

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Those all sound legit, the biggest features being the App Store and HomeKit compatibility. I think the HomeKit is less likely but still plausible.

I'll jump on board Apple TV if the AppStore proves to be solid.

mndtrp 05-29-15 10:56 AM

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Having an app store would be great, especially if I can use Spotify. I have no use for HomeKit right now, but that would be a pretty cool integration.

TheBigDave 05-29-15 07:03 PM

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Hopefully the app store will open up their closed ecosystem. It would be nice to get Vudu and Amazon on ATV. And smaller services like AcornTV and FUNimation.

I'm also looking forward to hearing about the TV service. It'll be interesting to see what they come up with.

I hope they keep the device under $100.

Sdallnct 06-01-15 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Supermallet (Post 12494037)
Any thoughts on the expecting Apple TV refresh at WWDC on June 8th? Word is that it will have an app store, a new remote with a touchpad, an A8 chip, but will not handle 4K video. It's also rumored to be the hub for HomeKit, which would be great instead of having multiple hubs for different products. And the other big rumor is that it's going to debut with Apple's cable alternative TV subscription service.

Thanks for posting...I'm so frustrated with my Roku in my bar...I was just about to buy Apple TV. But now I'll wait at least till the announcement and see if there is an update....

TheBigDave 06-03-15 12:27 PM

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Apple Subscription TV Service Won’t Be Announced Next Week

Apple won’t be announcing its much-anticipated subscription TV service next week at its Worldwide Developer Conference, according to several people with knowledge of the situation.

The Cupertino technology company has told network executives the planned unveiling will be postponed because Apple has yet to finalize the licensing deals. Industry executives predict Apple’s Web TV offering may not launch until later this year, or in 2016. Technology and money issues remain sticking points.

Apple wanted to launch a subscription TV service in early fall to coincide with the start of the new broadcast television season. But the debut got bogged down by negotiations over financial terms and new technology that would be required for broadcasters to deliver local programming to Apple’s Web TV service.

The company wants to provide customers in cities around the U.S. with programming from their local broadcast stations. That would distinguish Apple’s planned offering from those already available from Sony and Dish’s Sling, which to date have only offered local programming in a handful of cities, or none at all.

FULL ARTICLE - http://recode.net/2015/06/01/apple-s...ced-next-week/

LorenzoL 06-03-15 03:45 PM

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It hasn't been confirmed yet but rumours are that the redesigned Apple TV won't be debuting on WWDC either.

http://www.macrumors.com/2015/06/03/...or-wwdc-debut/

parker63 07-19-15 03:21 AM

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http://www.thestreamingadvisor.com/2...king-progress/


Apple Streaming Service Making Progress

Apple has realized that reaching out to individual channel owners may be too much to take on. Instead the company is reaching out to the main network’s themselves and letting them negotiate with their affiliates as the company works to bring about a streaming TV service. This is a very important step for Apple because it makes the long rumored streaming service appear far more possible. Apple has been in the headlines for months concerning a streaming service that would offer local affiliate feeds, a key factor for many on the fence concerning whether to drop cable. By providing local affiliate access it gives users the potential to see not just local news coverage via streaming but local and regional sports teams.

How is Apple making this possible?
As of right now Apple is negotiating directly with CBS, NBC, ABC and Fox. CW, another broadcast network is owned by CBS. By working with networks instead of reaching out to hundreds of affiliates individually Apple farms out the responsibility of negotiating for streaming rights to entities with existing relationships and connections. According to the New York Post the plan is working out. While Apple has been quiet on the streaming hardware side of things it has worked feverishly to build relationships going forward. It’s negotiation with HBO to be the exclusive launch partner for HBO Now worked out great for both parties with HBO seeing its app become a top seller in the iTunes store. Apple TV got a major boost spurred by both a price drop and the HBO offer the device rose to the number 3 selling streaming device on Amazon despite its age.

What do affiliates get out of the deal?
The plan which includes revenue sharing between Apple and the affiliates is gaining traction. If Apple is able to put this together it stands to be a major addition to the streaming space and may effectively end Sony’s experiment in this space and stop the recently announced “Comcast Stream” right in its tracks. Apple has never released details as to exactly wich cable channels would be involved with the service but considering the willingness that cable channels have shown to work with Sling and Sony Vue I don’t think Apple will have a great deal of trouble working out deals with a host of other partners.

Supermallet 07-26-15 08:33 PM

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I can't believe Apple ever tried to negotiate with individual affiliates.

I recently purchased an Apple TV solely for streaming music to my receiver. I'll also use it to watch Apple keynotes going forward, but otherwise I see nothing about it that my Roku doesn't already do better.

parker63 07-30-15 06:15 PM

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http://www.buzzfeed.com/johnpaczkows...ber#.dp2jRYNoB


Apple Will Debut New Apple TV In September

In March of this year, BuzzFeed News told you that Apple had a new Apple TV in the pipeline and planned to unveil it in June at its annual Word Wide Developers Conference. Two months later the company scrapped that plan, opting to instead focus its keynote-address attentions on its next generation operating systems and Apple Music streaming service.

Now, as Apple heads toward its annual fall event, the successor to its superannuated set-top box is once again top of mind and at last headed to market — and for real this time.

Sources familiar with Apple’s plans tell BuzzFeed News that the company intends to announce its next-generation Apple TV in September, at the same event at which it typically unveils its new iPhones. The device itself is pretty much as we described it to you in March, sources say, but “more polished” after some additional tweaks. Expect a refreshed and slimmer chassis and new innards; Apple’s A8 system on chip; a new remote that sources say has been “drastically improved” by a touch-pad input; an increase in on-board storage; and an improved operating system that will support Siri voice control. Crucially, the new Apple TV will debut alongside a long-awaited App Store and the software development kit developers need to populate it.

It’s a significant overhaul of the diminutive set-top box, which hasn’t seen a material refresh since 2012, and one that Apple hopes will inspire a big upgrade cycle through the annual winter holiday consumer binge, setting the stage for the subscription internet-TV service Apple’s been trying to get off the ground for years. While that service is most certainly in the offing, sources tell BuzzFeed News that Apple does not currently plan to announce it alongside the new Apple TV. “Late this year — maybe, but more likely next year,” said one, seconding a June report by Re/code.

While launching new Apple TV hardware apart from a new subscription TV service might seem counterintuitive, it does make strategic sense if Apple doesn’t yet have the deals in place to field such a service. Certainly, Apple doesn’t need to debut the two things together. By rolling out the new Apple TV and SDK ahead of the service, Apple is giving developers some lead time to develop compelling apps for the device — and taking good advantage of a holiday shopping season that will likely drive sales, further growing the Apple TV installed base to which it will someday sell streaming service subscriptions.

TheBigDave 08-14-15 09:57 AM

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If you bought an ATV recently, keep on eye on your email for a recall notice.


Apple recalling recently purchased Apple TV units due to faulty part

Apple has started recalling a select number of third-generation Apple TV models recently, according to a MacRumors writer who recently purchased an Apple TV. He then got an email from Apple informing him that his device has a faulty part.

Apple, of course, is offering affected customers the opportunity to exchange their faulty Apple TV unit for a functional one. The company is reaching out to each affected customer individually and has not updated its website to acknowledge the recall, suggesting that only a few users received Apple TVs with the faulty part.

Affected Apple TV units appear to have been purchased over the last several weeks, so if you have had your unit for an extended period of time, you are likely unaffected by the recall. In cases in which a recall is required, Apple is overnighting customers a new Apple TV immediately, without first requiring the defective unit to be sent back. When a customer does send the defective unit back, however, Apple is then providing a free iTunes gift card.

READ MORE - http://9to5mac.com/2015/08/12/apple-tv-recall/

TheBigDave 08-14-15 10:01 AM

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Looks like the Apple TV Service is getting pushed back again.


Apple TV Service Delayed Until 2016, Apple TV Coming Next Month

Apple won’t launch its pay TV service this year: Plans to take on cable and satellite TV operators with an Internet-based TV subscription service have been delayed until some time in 2016, according to a Bloomberg report, which states that the company hasn’t been able to strike deals for the necessary content rights for the service.

At one point Apple planned to announce the service at a press event in San Francisco next month and launch it in time for the fall TV season. However, negotiations with rights holders are dragging on, with the crux apparently being the pricetag for broadcast networks like CBS and Fox. Apple is aiming for a bundle of channels priced around $40, but has had a hard time making that work with the fees broadcast and cable networks are seeking.

Earlier reports indicated that Apple was aiming to introduce the service at its WWDC developer conference in June, but then delayed the launch because of the same rights issues. One key problem for Apple is that the company is apparently looking to launch with local broadcast content from networks like ABC, CBS and Fox. That involves getting rights from thousands of affiliate stations, which can take a long time, and potentially contribute to higher licensing costs.

However, the company still plans to introduce a revamped version of its Apple TV streaming box at the press event next month. The new device is expected to come with beefed-up hardware, as well as potentially a full-blown software development kit (SDK) and app store, which would allow many more third-party developers to build their own apps for Apple TV.

FULL ARTICLE - http://variety.com/2015/digital/news...rt-1201569749/

TheBigDave 08-30-15 02:59 PM

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Looks like Apple TV 4 will be in the $150-$200 range. Apple TV 3 will still be available as a budget option.


Apple TV 4 coming in October for under $200, Apple TV 3 stays & gets new streaming service

With the official debut of the next-generation Apple TV less than two weeks away, sources have provided additional details on Apple’s pricing, availability, and product lineup plans for its set-top devices. According to sources, the fourth-generation Apple TV will be priced below $200, and is on track to become available in October. Apple executives are apparently still finalizing the price of the revamped living room device, but the latest options call for a starting price point of either $149 or $199, both higher than the third-generation Apple TV…

The new Apple TV will come at a premium price compared with the current model, which was originally priced at $99 from its launch in 2012, then was reduced to $69 this March. As the new box will be considerably more expensive than popular alternatives from Roku, Google and Amazon, Apple plans to keep the $69 third-generation device for sale as an entry level model within the Apple TV product line. The new Apple TV 4 will be very similar to the current model in appearance, but it will be thicker and slightly wider, sources say.

Apple’s next-generation Apple TV will include a number of new features to differentiate itself from the older version, including Siri support, a new remote control, an App Store with a Software Development Kit for developers, and a refreshed user interface. As soon as next year, Apple plans to release a cable-replacing streaming TV service that bundles multiple television channels for a price as low as $40 per month, but the new Apple TV will initially still require logins to cable networks to unlock content.

According to our sources, the software update that enables Apple’s cable-replacement service is currently planned to also become available for the third-generation Apple TV. However, the current model will not receive support for the upcoming App Store, nor will it be directly controllable by Siri. We will have more details on the new Apple TV’s gaming, Siri, and remote control functionality in the coming days.

FULL ARTICLE - http://9to5mac.com/2015/08/30/apple-tv-4-200-october/

TheBigDave 09-09-15 02:22 PM

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The new AppleTV was announced today. It'll include an App Store (with mobile games), Siri Voice Search, and a new Touch Remote. No big surprises. And no mention of Amazon Video or Vudu apps. It'll be available in late October for $149/32GB and $199/64GB.


The new Apple TV brings apps, Siri and a touchscreen remote for $149

The new Apple TV is here, just unveiled at today's big event. Speculation about Apple's plans for the living room have circled for years, and this represents its most powerful assault on the space so far. A hardware refresh in 2012 added 1080p support but not much else, so we're more than due for an upgrade, and exec Eddy Cue appropriately called today "a big day for the big screen." Tim Cook called it "the future of television," promising a new tvOS, App Store and showing off features including deep Siri integration with a new remote.

That remote has a touchscreen, mic and Wii-like motion controls built in, necessary for Siri to search across "multiple content options" (Netflix, Hulu, HBO and Showtime, with more to come) on a single screen. Universal search is a feature already offered by competitors like Roku, Samsung, Amazon and Xbox that makes it easy to find a show or movie without having to know which service or app it's in first, and now it's on Apple TV too. There will be two versions of the new Apple TV: a 32GB model for $149, and 64GB model for $199, shipping in October to over 80 countries.

In the onstage demo, Apple showed off features using Siri to locate content by genre, actor or just asking "what's good for kids?" It also has a feature where asking "Siri, what did he/she say?" automatically skips back a few seconds and turns on the captions. Taking a page from Siri on iOS (as well as other helper like Amazon's Alexa and Microsoft's Cortana) Siri can pull up info on the TV screen like general facts and current sports scores. Everything during the demo looked to be voice controlled, including switching apps.

The remote is connected to the box by Bluetooth 4.0, with volume control for your TV, as well as an accelerometer and gyroscope for the motion control features. Apple says it can go three months without charging, but when you need to top it up, it connects to the same Lightning plug as current iPhones and iPads. There's support for third-party controllers via Bluetooth too, key for the gaming experiences Apple is expecting.

As for the box itself, it looks a little taller than the previous squared-off hockey puck. Inside is a 64-bit A8 chip, with connections via an IR sensor, Bluetooth 4.0 and 802.11ac WiFi. There's no mention of external storage support, or any resolutions beyond 1080p, so we're figuring those aren't in the cards this time around.

Oh, and about those apps. Once again, the rumors are on target, with Apple unveiling its new iOS-based tvOS. Apple says everything from Netflix to games like Star Wars and Guitar Hero are coming to Apple TV now. Following Siri, the next software demo featured Crossy Road, which is coming at the launch of Apple TV with a new multiplayer mode, that could add players using iPhones as controllers. Harmonix is showing off a Beat Sports game that uses the remote's motion controls to add Nintendo Wii-style features.

READ MORE - http://www.engadget.com/2015/09/09/t...screen-remote/
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TheBigDave 09-09-15 03:36 PM

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LorenzoL 09-09-15 08:00 PM

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I definitely don't need the ATV for games so that's not a selling feature for me. I need to wait and see how the new OS will affect the current version in regards to DNS and my use of UnBlock-Us and if it's worth for me to upgrade to the new version.

scorpion 09-10-15 07:35 AM

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I don't know what I expected, but I am not impressed with the new Apple TV. Will stick with my current ATV3/Fire TV Stick/Smart TV setup for now.

TheBigDave 09-10-15 06:32 PM

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This feels like a Version 1.0 model. They have some good ideas, but most of the stuff isn't ready yet. They're waiting for developers to create apps. The TV service may (or may not) come next year. And I'm curious to see how well that remote works in real world use.

I bet there's a Version 2.0 model coming next year. They'll have feedback from the app developers. The TV service will hopefully be ready. They'll probably tweak the remote. And make other improvements like 4K support.

TheBigDave 09-10-15 06:42 PM

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I wonder if it'll respond to normal remote commands? I use a Harmony universal remote to control my Apple TV. According to the tech specs, it has an IR receiver.

bluesyman 09-12-15 01:18 PM

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I have both the AppleTV and the Roku. The AppleTV basically gets used for iTunes movies with the Roku handling pretty much everything else. Hopefully Apple will open up access to their AppleTV by including a VUDU app but I wouldn't count on it.

TheBigDave 09-13-15 07:53 PM

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Plex is working on an app for the new AppleTV.


Plex will bring its media streaming to Apple TV

Ask some media server users why they don't use an Apple TV, and they'll issue a common refrain: "because it doesn't officially run Plex." Well, that shouldn't be an issue with the new Apple TV. Plex tells ITWorld that it plans to bring its media streaming front end to Apple's latest set-top box through an app. The move should give you access to all of your home's compatible music, photos and videos, not just what you can see from internet streaming services or iTunes clients. That's a big deal when you previously had to jailbreak or otherwise rely on clever workarounds to make Plex work.

The project is still very early, and the Plex team wants to avoid setting expectations until it has a chance to dig into the tvOS developer tools and see exactly what's possible. You probably won't get every wish list feature -- Apple is only integrating universal search on an app-by-app basis, for instance. Even so, this could do a lot to transform the Apple TV into an all-purpose box.

http://www.engadget.com/2015/09/12/p...-new-apple-tv/
MORE INFO
http://9to5mac.com/2015/09/12/popula...-new-apple-tv/
http://www.itworld.com/article/29829...-apple-tv.html

Mr. Salty 09-15-15 03:57 PM

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I guess the question for me is whether I need the model with the additional storage if I'm not going to do a lot of gaming.

bluesyman 09-16-15 11:47 AM

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It's nice that Plex maybe coming to the AppleTV. Before the only way to get it on there was to jailbreak an old AppleTV.

Mr. Salty 10-21-15 03:14 PM

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Looks like Apple will begin taking orders for the new Apple TV on Monday, with delivery starting later in the week.

RichC2 10-27-15 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bluesyman (Post 12589193)
It's nice that Plex maybe coming to the AppleTV. Before the only way to get it on there was to jailbreak an old AppleTV.

Yeah that was the pre-app store days. It actually looks like they're pretty far along on the Plex app for the new AppleTV -- saw this while updating the Server software today:

http://i.imgur.com/d5RyWHd.png

DJariya 11-02-15 06:21 PM

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So the newest model just came out. I already have 2 Roku 3's, so I really don't need it.

But, I read Amazon Prime Video pulled their app off this and Amazon is not selling this on their website. Was there some kind of conflict between them or is Apple wanting to pimp and sell off Itunes store more now and blowing off Amazon?

Seems like most of the apps are identical to the Roku. So what is the big selling point of this device compared to the Roku other than having access to the Itunes store?

RichC2 11-02-15 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 12634830)
So the newest model just came out. I already have 2 Roku 3's, so I really don't need it.

But, I read Amazon Prime Video pulled their app off this and Amazon is not selling this on their website. Was there some kind of conflict between them or is Apple wanting to pimp and sell off Itunes store more now and blowing off Amazon?

Seems like most of the apps are identical to the Roku. So what is the big selling point of this device compared to the Roku other than having access to the Itunes store?

and Airplay instead of Miracast. It likely has a better OS than Roku as well so you'll likely see a lot more apps for it in the long run, however for current, core usage... it works with apple stuff is the main selling point

joeblow69 11-02-15 07:01 PM

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I didn't think there ever was an amazon app for apple tv. I always just airplayed amazon stuff from my phone.

TheBigDave 11-02-15 07:45 PM

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Plex just released their Apple TV app:

https://plex.tv/appletv


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