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ytrez 04-02-20 07:18 AM

Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
 

Originally Posted by zyzzle (Post 13708201)
^ I'm sure your reply wasn't even read by a real person, just some damn AI algorithm. So, it's useless to try to state your case with that wall in front of you. Hence why you simply got a "rewording" jarble of platitudes as your reply. Don't worry about it, and hold Amazon in righteous indignation as you place any future orders. Order only essentials. All they care about is getting your money. They're fucking devils.

I have a safety razor on order since 2/14. It's been listed as "In Stock" for at least a few weeks now. Shipping has been pushed back to 3/15, 3/27, and now 5/2. I tried to contact customer service via their obviously AI chat function and got nowhere, I tried to get to an agent and got "none are available", tried by phone and got the same thing. I get this is a crisis, I just want to know if it's really in stock so maybe it'll ship sooner than 5/2 or if it's not and I should go elsewhere. Hell my son has ordered Manga that's shipping much faster.

BobO'Link 04-02-20 08:08 AM

Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
 
That happened a week or two back. It's pretty annoying, but I've not liked the infinite scrolling/opening "saved for later" at all. I much preferred the time when it was links at the bottom of the page so you could jump to the end, middle, or elsewhere easily if desired. I'd guess they got complaints about not being able to see the junk at the bottom of the cart page unless you scrolled through all your "saved for later" stuff. I don't use or look at any of that sales/promotion junk anyway so it never bothered me.

Sometimes stuff like that is an experiment that you can revert by clearing *all* your Amazon cookies. The trick to that is:

Close *all* Amazon tabs (must do this first)
Go into your "privacy" settings and clear *all* Amazon cookies (this changes several things on Amazon so be aware of that - it puts the "remember what you've browsed" setting back to "on" and will log you out)
Close your browser completely.
Start the browser, go back to Amazon, log back in, set that "remember what you've browsed" back to "off" if it annoys you (it does me), and check your cart. If the link to "see all" is still there then it's likely a permanent change.

It's not yet annoyed me enough to do that process (although one of my computers has a "feature" in the wish lists that removes lots of price info - % drop since added, other prices, etc. - that one's horrible).

andicus 04-02-20 09:39 AM

Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
 
I'll admit, the hidden 'saved for later' items does annoy me, but as it informs you of any price changes when you go to your cart, anyway, it's not a big deal.

The other thing that annoys me is that I wish you could set a threshold for changed prices. I couldn't care less that something is 2 cents cheaper or more expensive. A dollar would be a useful threshold.

dvd-4-life 04-06-20 06:10 PM

Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
 
I received a 70 dollar Marvel Omnibus book from Amazon today and there is a crease on every page in the upper right corner.

Returns are probably a pain in the butt since I don't drive and can't leave the house anyways so what other options do i have except keep the book?

I could call and complain about it .

slybone 04-07-20 05:30 AM

Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
 

Originally Posted by dvd-4-life (Post 13719311)
I received a 70 dollar Marvel Omnibus book from Amazon today and there is a crease on every page in the upper right corner.

Returns are probably a pain in the butt since I don't drive and can't leave the house anyways so what other options do i have except keep the book?

I could call and complain about it .

Start the return process on their website, within a few clicks it will tell you what your options are, there may be a free option where USPS or UPS will pick it up from your house without you having to go anywhere. If there are no acceptable options that way then call or chat with customer service. Given the current world situation I would think that they’ll be working closely with folks to make returns with no health risk. Who knows, they have been known to give refunds without the product needing to be returned.

DJariya 04-20-20 01:58 AM

Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
 
Has anyone noticed that a lot of physical media are going out of stock? I've checked out my wish list and quite a few items on it are out of stock and have not be re-stocked in weeks. I guess as previous stories have reported that they are closing off their Warehouse to non-essential items.

slybone 04-20-20 06:39 AM

Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
 

Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 13726822)
Has anyone noticed that a lot of physical media are going out of stock? I've checked out my wish list and quite a few items on it are out of stock and have not be re-stocked in weeks. I guess as previous stories have reported that they are closing off their Warehouse to non-essential items.

Yes, I’ve also noticed this and it does go along with what they have been saying. They just aren’t focusing on stocking that stuff now. Hopefully in the coming weeks and months that will change as the world starts to get more of a handle on this thing.

andicus 04-20-20 08:22 AM

Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
 
I haven't noticed that, but I have noticed that most items sold by Amazon in my cart have gone up in price.

fujishig 04-20-20 08:36 AM

Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
 
Is it out of stock or just won't ship out for a month or so because it's not at a local warehouse and they're prioritizing the essential stuff?

slybone 04-20-20 10:46 AM

Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
 
^All of the above are happening.

DJariya 04-20-20 04:58 PM

Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
 
It looks like they are picking and choosing some pre-orders to kill.

They killed Ip Man 4 (4K) and they killed the new Fatal Attraction Paramount Presents that was coming out this week.

IDrinkMolson 04-20-20 07:07 PM

Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
 
I've been noticing a lot of non-essential stuff OOS this past week.

slop101 04-21-20 12:25 AM

Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
 

Originally Posted by IDrinkMolson (Post 13727317)
I've been noticing a lot of non-essential stuff OOS this past week.

I've been hearing they're only marking many non-essential stuff as being OOS, while they actually do have them, but they don't want to incur the risk of people ordering frivolous bullshit for the time being.

BobO'Link 04-21-20 08:10 AM

Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
 
They *have* removed the "Recommended for you" and "People who purchased xxx also purchased yyy" stuff. They've also changed the cart to make it easier to move "non-essential" products out. AND are not doing a Mother's/Father's Day promotion *nor* the July Amazon Prime Day promotion. All of that is to discourage purchase of non-essential products.

DJariya 04-21-20 06:41 PM

Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
 
Amazon has cut off all shipments for the new Bad Boys for Life physical media release this week. I pre-ordered it and it's coming this Thursday, But now, it's completely cut off on 4K, BD and DVD.

Bluelitespecial 04-21-20 09:53 PM

Re: UHD release announcements
 
So is the new release 4K release of Top Gun being delayed until December? I tried looking it up on Amazon and the listing is saying its not available.
Update-After lurking around on that other message board that shall not be named here it might be delayed until December 8th.

randian 04-21-20 09:56 PM

Re: UHD release announcements
 

Originally Posted by Bluelitespecial (Post 13727961)
So is the new release 4K release of Top Gun being delayed on December? I tried looking it up on Amazon and the listing is saying its not available.

That's weird. My Target preorder still says "Ships by release date Tue, May 19".

WTK 04-21-20 10:08 PM

Re: UHD release announcements
 

Originally Posted by Bluelitespecial (Post 13727961)
So is the new release 4K release of Top Gun being delayed on December? I tried looking it up on Amazon and the listing is saying its not available.
Update-After lurking around on that other message board that shall not be named here it might be delayed until December 8th.

FWIW, Amazon updated many of pre-order listings (4K, BD, DVD, video games,...) to "Currently unavailable" sometime today.

TomOpus 04-21-20 10:10 PM

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I just checked Amazon. It had an important message.

3 items have been moved to the Saved for Later section of your Cart.

The following items are no longer available from the seller you selected. We have moved the following items to the saved Items section of your Shopping Cart:
  • Jaws [Blu-ray]
  • War of the Worlds
  • Top Gun

DJariya 04-21-20 10:34 PM

Re: UHD release announcements
 
Amazon is putting a stop to non-essential items like BD pre-orders. A few from this week got killed and are currently unavailable.

Adam Tyner 04-21-20 11:52 PM

Re: UHD release announcements
 

Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 13727971)
Amazon is putting a stop to non-essential items like BD pre-orders.

It might be a temporary hiccup. Amazon killed all video game preorders earlier today, but they’re back now:


When I do some quick browsing for upcoming movies, Jaws is the only one listed as currently unavailable in the first couple pages of results.

zyzzle 04-22-20 01:50 AM

Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
 

Originally Posted by BobO'Link (Post 13727502)
They *have* removed the "Recommended for you" and "People who purchased xxx also purchased yyy" stuff. They've also changed the cart to make it easier to move "non-essential" products out. AND are not doing a Mother's/Father's Day promotion *nor* the July Amazon Prime Day promotion. All of that is to discourage purchase of non-essential products.

All of this just gives them the excuse to raise prices across the board on what they consider "non-essential" products. More profit for them in the guise of doing a "good" deed. Good, my ass! Good for Amazon and their mountains of cash that they're rolling around in, and flaunting.

slop101 04-22-20 02:28 AM

Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
 

Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 13727854)
Amazon has cut off all shipments for the new Bad Boys for Life physical media release this week. I pre-ordered it and it's coming this Thursday, But now, it's completely cut off on 4K, BD and DVD.

Try bullmoose.com - all they sell is physical media, so they're still shipping, and they have the same prices as amazon.

BobO'Link 04-22-20 11:55 AM

Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
 

Originally Posted by zyzzle (Post 13728021)
All of this just gives them the excuse to raise prices across the board on what they consider "non-essential" products. More profit for them in the guise of doing a "good" deed. Good, my ass! Good for Amazon and their mountains of cash that they're rolling around in, and flaunting.

I'm not seeing this at all for products sold by Amazon. They're either very consistent or have the normal fluctuations depending on who they're price matching. On the other hand - I *am* seeing this from some MP vendors - whether or not they're using "Fulfilled by Amazon" services. The MP vendors I normally use haven't done this and still have prices in what I'd consider the "normal" range.

morriscroy 04-22-20 12:18 PM

Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
 
Last week I had a preorder for the Criminal Minds final season dvd, which was cut off. Most likely the nearby amazon warehouses didn't get any copies, and they didn't want to ship something over 1000 miles.

I ended up cancelling it altogether.

ctyankee 04-22-20 12:44 PM

Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
 
Sure glad to see that the complaining about Amazon thread is alive and well.

I posted (probably around 2013) in this thread, that if people complaining about the cost of Amazon prime had simply bought one share of Amazon that prior year, they would have recouped their full cost for Amazon Prime.

Update: Amazon stock now stands around $2,370 per share at the moment. Meaning that that the profit from one share of Amazon would pay for about 20 years of Amazon Prime (at its current cost). Amazon stock has averaged about a 38% ANNUAL return over the period 2013-2020.

Now ... back to the complaining ...




Bluelitespecial 04-22-20 02:30 PM

Re: UHD release announcements
 
Well I checked Amazon again the preorder for Top Gun is back up and showing a release date of May 19th, but the Steelbook is listed now for December 8th.

dsa_shea 04-22-20 02:46 PM

Re: UHD release announcements
 
How much exactly can Amazon be shipping more now while cutting out or delaying what they see as non-essential goods? There are hardly any essential goods available to become priority. Are wipes available? Nope! Sanitizer? You have to be kidding.

Why So Blu? 04-22-20 03:06 PM

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stvn1974 04-22-20 03:43 PM

Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
 
I should have bought stock so I could have used that money to replace all of the broken jewel cases I have had to buy over the years because of amazon's shitty packaging.

ctyankee 04-22-20 04:31 PM

Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
 

Originally Posted by stvn1974 (Post 13728317)
I should have bought stock so I could have used that money to replace all of the broken jewel cases I have had to buy over the years because of amazon's shitty packaging.

:violin: and yet you still continue to buy from them.


zyzzle 04-22-20 11:59 PM

Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
 

Originally Posted by ctyankee (Post 13728230)
Sure glad to see that the complaining about Amazon thread is alive and well.

I posted (probably around 2013) in this thread, that if people complaining about the cost of Amazon prime had simply bought one share of Amazon that prior year, they would have recouped their full cost for Amazon Prime.

Update: Amazon stock now stands around $2,370 per share at the moment. Meaning that that the profit from one share of Amazon would pay for about 20 years of Amazon Prime (at its current cost). Amazon stock has averaged about a 38% ANNUAL return over the period 2013-2020.

Now ... back to the complaining ...

... And that's at the crux of the matter. The trouble is, Amazon puts their shareholders and their precious stock above everything and everyone else. To their public's disadvantage. So, the complaints continue. I'm not putting any trust in a monopolistic company who thinks it can do no harm, harnessing everyone in they can bamboozle with their "benevolent hand." They're doing, and have done, irreparable harm in limiting choice and squashing the little local businesses. More will fail directly due to them because of COVID-19, which of course will tighten their strangehold over the elimination of competition. One result from this: higher prices and less quality. If they're so big and "can't fail" why should they even try? Slippery slope...

ctyankee 04-23-20 09:34 AM

Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
 

Originally Posted by zyzzle (Post 13728541)
... And that's at the crux of the matter. The trouble is, Amazon puts their shareholders and their precious stock above everything and everyone else. To their public's disadvantage. So, the complaints continue. I'm not putting any trust in a monopolistic company who thinks it can do no harm, harnessing everyone in they can bamboozle with their "benevolent hand." They're doing, and have done, irreparable harm in limiting choice and squashing the little local businesses. More will fail directly due to them because of COVID-19, which of course will tighten their strangehold over the elimination of competition. One result from this: higher prices and less quality. If they're so big and "can't fail" why should they even try? Slippery slope...

That's not true. The key trouble is that Amazon puts its customers above everyone else. So, it's to the consumer's advantage that Amazon exists. Do others get hurt in the process? Of course.

If you're unhappy that they have succeeded, I understand that. But people were really unhappy with how Wal-Mart and Costco and other big box retailers succeeded in the 1980's putting an untold number of local merchants out of business. And what came out of that? Adapt or fail.

There is no putting the genie back into the bottle. If not Amazon, then Alibaba or some other group we don't even know about. Meanwhile, there are hundreds of thousands of third-party merchants in Amazon Marketplace. Do they like what Amazon decides? Heck no. But, if the government were to force Amazon to make the third-party marketplace separate from Amazon itself, most would go kicking and screaming to Congress to stop that madness.

As for employees, heck, wait to Amazon perfects a picking robot with the dexterity close to that of a human. Forget about all those warehouse jobs and food prep jobs at McDonalds et cetera.

Andrew Yang has it right, best to just send checks to citizens and allow them to adapt to the future. As the future is going to happen anyway.

Bluelitespecial 04-23-20 10:27 AM

Re: UHD release announcements
 

Originally Posted by dsa_shea (Post 13728287)
How much exactly can Amazon be shipping more now while cutting out or delaying what they see as non-essential goods? There are hardly any essential goods available to become priority. Are wipes available? Nope! Sanitizer? You have to be kidding.

I placed an order on April 6th for a multivitamin pack I like and a hallmark dvd and they said it'll be delivered by May 4th. Once it arrives it'll be my last Amazon order until their shipping schedules return to normal.

dvd-4-life 04-23-20 10:54 AM

Re: UHD release announcements
 

Originally Posted by dsa_shea (Post 13728287)
How much exactly can Amazon be shipping more now while cutting out or delaying what they see as non-essential goods? There are hardly any essential goods available to become priority. Are wipes available? Nope! Sanitizer? You have to be kidding.

Except for Sparkling Ice there is nothing essential that I would normally order that's in stock but if they want to refuse my money for non-essential then fine.

milo bloom 04-23-20 10:58 AM

Re: UHD release announcements
 
We've been ordering all kinds of nonsense from Amazon and it's coming within reasonable shipping times. We just got some more oboe sheet music for my kid this morning via Amazon. So it probably depends on how busy the local distribution center is.

fujishig 04-23-20 11:01 AM

Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
 
If anything, I think COVID-19 has shown that amazon is nowhere near ready to replace traditional B&Ms... at least not yet.

lwhy? 04-23-20 11:01 AM

Re: UHD release announcements
 
Video games must be essential. I ordered a video game on the 18th and it's out for delivery today. I even chose slow shipping to get the $1.50 credit....

lwhy? 04-23-20 11:02 AM

Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
 
Amazon must think video games are essential. I ordered a video game on the 18th and it's out for delivery today. I even chose slow shipping to get the $1.50 credit....

fujishig 04-23-20 11:28 AM

Re: The complaining about Amazon thread
 

Originally Posted by lwhy? (Post 13728724)
Amazon must think video games are essential. I ordered a video game on the 18th and it's out for delivery today. I even chose slow shipping to get the $1.50 credit....

More likely that the videogame happened to be in stock at your local warehouse.


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