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mekeez 07-18-11 06:18 PM

Borders Liquidation
 
News Alert
from The Wall Street Journal


Borders Group said it would liquidate after failing to receive any offers to save the bookstore chain.

Borders, which employs about 10,700 people, scrapped a bankruptcy-court auction scheduled for Tuesday amid the dearth of bids. The U.S.'s second-largest bookstore chain said it would ask a judge Thursday to approve a sale to liquidators led by Hilco Merchant Resources and Gordon Brothers Group.

Borders's liquidation of its remaining 399 stores could start as soon as Friday and the bookstore chain is expected to go out of business for good by the end of September, the company said.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...=djemalertNEWS

mekeez 07-18-11 06:20 PM

Borders Liquidation
 
News Alert
from The Wall Street Journal


Borders Group said it would liquidate after failing to receive any offers to save the bookstore chain.

Borders, which employs about 10,700 people, scrapped a bankruptcy-court auction scheduled for Tuesday amid the dearth of bids. The U.S.'s second-largest bookstore chain said it would ask a judge Thursday to approve a sale to liquidators led by Hilco Merchant Resources and Gordon Brothers Group.

Borders's liquidation of its remaining 399 stores could start as soon as Friday and the bookstore chain is expected to go out of business for good by the end of September, the company said.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...=djemalertNEWS

Vellsbells 07-18-11 06:33 PM

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Hate this. Not only do I have friends who work there, but I love my local store. Does anyone know yet about what happens to borders bucks? I have some that will not not active until next month, August.

MovieFanatic81 07-18-11 06:33 PM

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The one borders book store that was near be closed down some while go.

E Unit 07-18-11 07:00 PM

Re: Borders Liquidation
 
Always hate seeing anyone get laid off, but damn was this a lousy store. Only place I ever heard workers complain openly.

jwstl 07-18-11 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by trespoochies (Post 10858743)
Always hate seeing anyone get laid off, but damn was this a lousy store. Only place I ever heard workers complain openly.

I'll miss them as I have fond memories of having out in a Borders near my apartment when I first moved to a city in which I knew no one. But, you can't build a successful business when your only reasonably priced items are the Bargain books and items discounted via the coupons.

big whoppa 07-18-11 07:46 PM

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Sad to see another large franchise go the way of the dodo bird. I always like how large the Borders stores are. You could spend an entire day there.

izatright 07-18-11 08:21 PM

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I didn't like Borders. Besides the cheap online anime pre-orders, it pretty much sucked. However, they were one of the few stores that made books widely available and, once they pass, it's going to be that much harder to get a good selection of B&M books. So that part sucks.

whotony 07-18-11 09:13 PM

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I'll miss it too.
Would spend a good few hours in there. Plus with the coupons it was easy enough to find some good deals.

Sweet Baby James 07-18-11 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by big whoppa (Post 10858804)
You could spend an entire day there.

That was one of their problems. The place became a hobo hotel.

DVD Polizei 07-18-11 09:30 PM

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Borders had a really pleasant atmosphere to hang out and read books--which were bought thereafter and not just left to be shelved.

asianxcore 07-18-11 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Baby James (Post 10858913)
That was one of their problems. The place became a hobo hotel.

^
This

Even further, you had lots of people just treating their local stores like their own library. Treating the store like their own home, but maybe a little worse. The company encouraged it too. When I was an Operations Manager at my local Borders last year, I pushed for a little less seating at our local store. More so because it encouraged lounging not buying. It also made things harder for employees to keep things clean and looking nice. A Barnes and Noble across the Richmond Bridge had very limited seating in their store (most of the seating being in the Cafe) and that kept a lot of people from camping out in sections of their store.

Then again this applies to a lot of book stores. I went to a local bookstore when I was in Santa Cruz, CA a couple days ago. There were people just lying on their stomachs in the middle of aisles reading to their hearts content. I know this is part of the allure of many bookstores, but it certainly didn't encourage me as a shopper to be stepping over people to see if I could find a book.

Alan Smithee 07-18-11 09:42 PM

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Best deterrant to reading in a store I ever saw was at a convenience store near where I used to work- by the magazine rack, there was a hand-written sign saying "This is not library so do not read magazeen here."

lordzeppelin 07-18-11 10:32 PM

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I'm sad about this whole thing. I worked at Borders (even though I had to actually quit to attend my college graduation because my manager was an ass), and loved it. I'm going to miss this store - cause B&N blows.

SethDLH 07-18-11 10:51 PM

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Its a bummer for sure. I found some great stuff from their bargain book shelves. Never happy to see a store go under, especially one that employs so many people.

quid squid 07-18-11 11:39 PM

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About 6 years ago I worked at Borders for a month...then went back to Barnes & Noble.

kenbenobi 07-19-11 12:08 AM

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Damn, I had a preorder for an item coming out July 26. Guess that won't be happening, unless maybe their warehouse already received it...

davidh777 07-19-11 12:32 AM

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You started this topic in three different forums, mekeez? :hscratch:

whotony 07-19-11 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by davidh777 (Post 10859143)
You started this topic in three different forums, mekeez? :hscratch:

He's just spreadin' the word.

Alan Smithee 07-19-11 01:21 AM

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I've never bought a Blu-Ray at Borders- it's the only place I've ever seen them marked at full price though ($39.99 for some titles.) Was in one of their stores a few weeks ago and saw a bunch of CDs priced at $18.99 too.

Double_Oh_7 07-19-11 03:24 AM

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It was a good store to kill some time and browse around. But to buy something? Never... the prices were terrible. Even with a 50% off coupon, you could still find it cheaper on Amazon.

dino88 07-19-11 03:54 AM

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We need a few more of these threads. Someone start one in the movie and video game forums, stat!

RaMMaR 07-19-11 04:31 AM

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i'm in the same boat as kenbenobi, one backorder and one preorder (both used borders bucks). i guess i can kiss those good-bye....

seether254 07-19-11 04:59 AM

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sooooo.......... is this just a love/hate borders thread? wheres the deal here?

Alan Smithee 07-19-11 06:03 AM

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We need a few more of these threads. Someone start one in the movie and video game forums, stat!
They didn't screen movies, nor did they sell video games. If they did, they'd be in there.

Gizmo 07-19-11 09:05 AM

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Borders did sell games for some times. Mostly random $20 crap titles.

Ropes Pierre 07-19-11 10:03 AM

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I am going to take a book a day into the poo chalet, for a last hurrah farewell dump / read, to remind myself why i don't buy in B&M stores anymore.

(Some filthy savage has probably already done it, and thinks "B&M" stands for bowel movement)

Blu-ray-collect 07-19-11 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee (Post 10858948)
Best deterrant to reading in a store I ever saw was at a convenience store near where I used to work- by the magazine rack, there was a hand-written sign saying "This is not library so do not read magazeen here."

Case in point:

<i>"I just constantly enjoy sitting down and reading, especially in bookstores because it's quiet and the whole aura of it is just really relaxing," said Katherine Carrasco of Rancho Cucamonga, who prefers paper-and-ink books to the
electronic variety.</i>
That's from "The Sun" (San Bernadino paper). I wonder how much of what she read she actually purchased.

Perhaps B&N (to avoid the same fate as Borders) should put books and magazines in those plastic containers (a la blu-ray cases at Target) to prevent patrons from reading them. Instead, direct them to kiosks to read snippets and excerpts from the book.

Maxflier 07-19-11 11:15 AM

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Going to miss Borders, I could always get a book there for cheaper than I could at B&N.

al_bundy 07-19-11 11:27 AM

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my local B&N has a kids section with tables where they encourage people to bring their kids and read in the store

Pizza 07-19-11 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Blu-ray-collect (Post 10859559)
Case in point:

<i>"I just constantly enjoy sitting down and reading, especially in bookstores because it's quiet and the whole aura of it is just really relaxing," said Katherine Carrasco of Rancho Cucamonga, who prefers paper-and-ink books to the
electronic variety.</i>
That's from "The Sun" (San Bernadino paper). I wonder how much of what she read she actually purchased.

Perhaps B&N (to avoid the same fate as Borders) should put books and magazines in those plastic containers (a la blu-ray cases at Target) to prevent patrons from reading them. Instead, direct them to kiosks to read snippets and excerpts from the book.

Then why go to a book store if you can't touch the books? Certainly there are folks that abuse the sytem and buy a coffee and sit down with a pile of magazines and books but when I'm shopping for a book on a topic, I'd like to leaf through it first. Seeing a couple of sample pages don't cut it.

DirkBelig 07-19-11 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jwstl (Post 10858751)
But, you can't build a successful business when your only reasonably priced items are the Bargain books and items discounted via the coupons.

Exactly. Those were the only things I bought. Otherwise it was a browsing room to determine whether I wanted to buy it from Amazon or not.

Originally Posted by Double_Oh_7 (Post 10859192)
It was a good store to kill some time and browse around. But to buy something? Never... the prices were terrible. Even with a 50% off coupon, you could still find it cheaper on Amazon.

For Blu-rays, mostly; but pricey books benefited from the half-off. My g/f was able to buy the Making of the Empire Strikes Back book because it was half-off $85 at Borders ($45.05 w/tax) vs. $53.25 at Amazon.

The one near my g/f closed a few months back* and we used to stop in there to browse magazines after dinner or while waiting for photos to print at the CVS across the street. We miss it, but it wasn't like we were spending much money there.


* I was mayor of it on Foursquare and a couple months later, I get notified that some woman had ousted me. Who the hell is so empty that they repeatedly checked into a closed business until they were mayor. I flagged the place as closed. If I can't be mayor, the hell is she!

asianxcore 07-19-11 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Blu-ray-collect (Post 10859559)
Case in point:

<i>"I just constantly enjoy sitting down and reading, especially in bookstores because it's quiet and the whole aura of it is just really relaxing," said Katherine Carrasco of Rancho Cucamonga, who prefers paper-and-ink books to the
electronic variety.</i>
That's from "The Sun" (San Bernadino paper). I wonder how much of what she read she actually purchased.

Perhaps B&N (to avoid the same fate as Borders) should put books and magazines in those plastic containers (a la blu-ray cases at Target) to prevent patrons from reading them. Instead, direct them to kiosks to read snippets and excerpts from the book.

I do agree with Pizza, you don't want to make things crazy, just deter camping. Usually having (too many) comfortable places to sit with lots of space around you to pile books around is the problem. Although some people have no shame, you get less people who want to be seen as the man/woman who is sitting in the middle of an aisle (no chair/table) with a stack of books next to them. You'd get a let less camping with those sort of customers having to stand and read their books (or no place to put them)

A Borders I went to in Santa Cruz, had their entire Graphic Novels/Manga section sealed in plastic sleeves. They must have had a lot of browsing in that section, so they went ahead and took care of it.


Originally Posted by al_bundy (Post 10859589)
my local B&N has a kids section with tables where they encourage people to bring their kids and read in the store

I'm actually alright with that because I've seen that section and it's very inviting to parents/kids alike. Adults rolling solo should know better :)

My issue (both when I worked as a Manager and now that I'm no longer in Retail) is with the customers (if you can call them that) who's sole purpose is to throw $2 for a cup of coffee at the store and then treat the store like their home. Plopping down in a chair somewhere (sometimes physically moving them to parts of the store they aren't meant for), grabbing 20+ books and camping out. Not even putting the books back where they belong because it's someone's job to do it anyway.

Comparing terrible Daily Sales Goals/Numbers with the amount of people in a said store, you start to realize you have a lot more camping than you do actual buying.

As I said before, I'm happy to see everyone cheering the downfall of yet another company/B&M. We'll see how competitive E-Tailers are when they are the only ones left.

mekeez 07-19-11 01:17 PM

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BTW I posted this so those who, like me, had something to return, or borders bucks, etc. could get in there and get squared away. Noticed a new 30% off coupon through Thursday as well.

http://www.bordersmedia.com/coup/201...id=SL_20110719

mekeez 07-19-11 01:28 PM

Re: Borders Liquidation
 

Originally Posted by davidh777 (Post 10859143)
You started this topic in three different forums, mekeez? :hscratch:


Originally Posted by whotony (Post 10859151)
He's just spreadin' the word.

I posted this so those who, like me, had something to return ($60), or borders bucks, etc. could get in there and get squared away. Some Borders stores are less accommodating and I thought it was entirely possible that things would shut down way too quickly so some people would be left high and dry. I did get my cash back, although it was obvious that they didn’t know about the decision yet. :P

Noticed a new 30% off coupon through Thursday as well.

http://www.bordersmedia.com/coup/201...id=SL_20110719

clckworang 07-19-11 02:51 PM

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I posted this in one of the other Borders threads, but it might be more appropriate to mention it here. I work at a news outlet and the AP just sent out a correction to their story.


NEW YORK (AP) - In a story on July 19, The Associated Press, relying on a company statement, reported erroneously that Borders was expected to ask a federal bankruptcy court to allow it to be sold to liquidators. Borders plans to ask the court to appoint liquidation firms to conduct going-out-of business sales. They will not buy any assets of Borders.

conebone69 07-19-11 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by asianxcore (Post 10859731)
As I said before, I'm happy to see everyone cheering the downfall of yet another company/B&M. We'll see how competitive E-Tailers are when they are the only ones left.

Those cheering will be the first ones in line to bitch and moan when things don't go their way.

Guaranteed.


Originally Posted by mekeez
I posted this so those who, like me, had something to return ($60), or borders bucks, etc. could get in there and get squared away. Some Borders stores are less accommodating and I thought it was entirely possible that things would shut down way too quickly so some people would be left high and dry. I did get my cash back, although it was obvious that they didn’t know about the decision yet. :P

It's entirely possible that Borders will allow coupons and/or gift cards to still be used. I was able to use a gift card during a store closing but liquidation might be different.

I just wouldn't throw a fit if they refuse. Though, I'm sure someone will..

mekeez 07-19-11 04:26 PM

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When I check store inventory for an item online, it turns out that I don't have a store within a 100 miles of me, although we have two here. It's started...

mekeez 07-19-11 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by conebone69 (Post 10859944)
Those cheering will be the first ones in line to bitch and moan when things don't go their way.

Guaranteed.



It's entirely possible that Borders will allow coupons and/or gift cards to still be used. I was able to use a gift card during a store closing but liquidation might be different.

I just wouldn't throw a fit if they refuse. Though, I'm sure someone will..

Just tried to check local inventory on a few items, both book and dvd. Apparently, I have no Borders within a 100 miles today, while yesterday I had two. I didn't try any coupons and have no gift cards.

sleepyhead55 07-19-11 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mekeez (Post 10860029)
When I check store inventory for an item online, it turns out that I don't have a store within a 100 miles of me, although we have two here. It's started...

Yeah, that online thing is screwed up. Anyway, I just used up my borders bucks today in the store. I believe I also saw a woman in line returning a book as well. So if you need to do any of those things do it now as Borders is still allowing GC/Borders Bucks and return of items.


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