Life lesson??, maybe it's AMAZON - LIFE SUCKS SOMETIMES< huh?

I think everyone should come down off the morals mountain and realize that everybody pays for mistakes, even internet retailers. They made a mistake, they are now paying for it. Enough said, wonder why Amazon keeps changing the threat date to charge??? B/C they think most people are stupid and will cave to their threats. What a load.

IMO, the only unreasonable thing would be for Amazon to take money out of my account after an already completed transaction. It's not likeI closed it as soon as they shipped my orders, I closed it when I was still being told my account would be charged. I don't know if you're understanding that or not, but it seems pretty simple to me.

yes, when people close bank account and move them to zurich it deff means theres something going on . i have never heard of anyone going to such extremes of closing a bank account because of a "disagreement" with a seller. wow! people who dont feel responsible usually dont close and run.

How is this different than watching a Lowe's cashier improperly price match a Home Depot coupon and say nothing? And after finding out it was indeed a mistake, wishing you had purchased other items at the improper discount?

Anyway...

I didn't participate in this deal, but look, this is all a slippery slope. What some people consider okay, others don't. Why bother fighting and putting others down over it? I don't get it. Some people probably object to using a $1-off coupon that a friend received by e-mail... to each their own, but I don't see the need to state one's moral superiority over others.

It's too bad (for Amazon) they didn't catch and cancel the orders (per their own T&C). If they had caught them, no one could complain at all. But trying to collect after the fact is rediculous, IMO.

Like I said, I'm not personally involved with this at all, but am following with interest. Because if they are successful in this, what happens the day that a retailer decides that a 20%-off coupon wasn't valid and charges you the remainder a month later? Or if something is mispriced by a dollar or two a and they come to collect it a month later?

He does not get it...

No, I'm fairly sure he does get it.... He understands that despite placing an order in which he followed the proper checkout procedure, in no way manipulated the checkout software, allowed sufficient time for any or all of his orders to be rejected (per Amazon's own TOS), he was shipped the items he ordered and told that the shipment completed the order. He also understands that despite their own TOS, Amazon is now attempting to tell him no contract was completed and he owes them more money. He understands that Amazon's TOS addresses 'pricing mistakes' and that such mistakes, if shipped, must have been agreeable to Amazon as they state they reserve the right to cancel such orders, but make no mention of charging later for orders that did ship. He also probably understands that if Amazon does not consider this a 'pricing mistake' as it appears from some of the posted Amazon CSR e-mails, then such 'promotional mistakes' are not addressed in the TOS and as such should probably go to arbitration, Amazon's stated method of resolution, rather than the company unilaterally deciding to charge extra and not the amount the customer originally agreed to. He understands that even after expressing any or all of these concerns to CSR's, some state there will be no charge, while most of the others (and those higher up the chain in a better position to know Amazon's next move) state that he will be charged- to which he probably replied he does not give them permission to charge more than the final price on the invoice. Above all, he understands they don't care about his position and they'll break the law by charging him, creating a large headache for him to rightfully recover his funds. So he refuses to let that happen by proactively shutting off the funds. You may not agree with his methods, but he clearly 'gets it.'

Thank you i86time, that about sums it up.

I stand corrected: They do not get it.

Rest assured Nightfall, if Amazon decides to really go after someone, it will probably be you. And your actions won't pass the "sniff test" in arbitration.

Which is what they SHOULD do in the first place.

I agree that if they did chose to send a case to arbitration, it would be Nightfall's or someone like him who spend ordered even more, and that customer would likely lose. (On the flip side, people who only placed one order would likely win, IMO.) But that's not what they are doing. It is the fact that Amazon claims that they can just charge more after an item has shipped that worries many people.

One of the big problems here, you can close all the bank accounts and credit cards you want but if Amazon presses the issue and turns it over to collections they may not
get their money but there will be a mark on your credit report. I know you can dispute
but it takes a while to get it off of your credit report..I have a friend and this happened to him. It was a nightmare fighting with the credit breaus..I'm not taking sides here just relaying an incident I was involved in..
DG

I don't know how many ways I can explain it. Amazon can turn it over to a collection agency, but that agency would have NO authority to affect your credit score. All they can do is yell and try to scare you into paying them back.

wow, im so glad you englithen with your knowledge..just WHO do you think posts collections to your credit report? not collection companies? i'm just shocked and at the same time laughing at how the majority of americans have no idea about how the financial system works

Third-party collection agencies may report a debt to one or more of the credit bureaus, as a "Collection Account," including the amount, and whether it was paid or not. Paying off a collection account will not result in the item being removed from the consumer's credit reports - it will simply be marked "Paid." Agencies can report both debts that they have bought, and also debts that they are working on behalf of the actual creditor.

Also, a collection agency may request a debtor's credit report, in order to get an idea of his/her general financial situation, and to get an updated address and phone number.
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please provide your sources on where you get your info...

It absolutely can and will affect your credit score.

You guys asserting that that amazon can fuck with your credit rating are just as bad as the guy who says they can't. None of you have posted any sort of supporting evidence - if proof by assertion doesn't work for one guy it doesn't work for any of you.

An account referred to a collection agency most definitely can and very likely will end up on one's credit report. It happens all the time.

See https://www.econsumer.equifax.com/co...forward=cs_cpo
wherein Equifax states under the "Public Records" heading:

Ok we all get it. You think I'm a bad person and Amazon will get me....move on and try not fill the topic with your crap that doesn't help or add to positive discussion.

"The grabbing hands grab all they can....."

Exactly what was the deal? I scanned through the threads and didn't see what the exact offer Amazon had up was.

Buy-one-get-one-free sale on the MGM/Sony TV sets that have been making the rounds, which were initially charged and for some reason mostly shipped at double that discount.

this has gone on forever. its on part ii of the thread. when are you people going to stop complaining about what Amazon is doing.

OK, but only if you promise to post all the details when Amazon comes knocking on your door.

I do admit I'm impressed that someone could actually get 54 orders through in the duration of that checkout glitch. (And not be greedy or do anything ethically questionable at the same time!)

Seriously, we would want to know who Amazon uses as a collection agency. I imagine it will be some well-known company, and not a Mom'n'Pop operation....

One very simple fact seems to escape some of you. Amazon didn't finance any of our "purchases", they didn't issue us credit, we do not have delinquent credit accounts with Amazon. Amazon isn't in the credit business. I fail to see how Amazon can legitimately report any of our accounts to a credit collection agency when Amazon hasn't issued any of us one damn cent of credit.

I'll leave this softball for someone else to handle. But here are two free hints: 1) "credit rating," which is being discussed here, is an assessment of a person's financial 'safety' that includes a lot of fiscal data; and 2) I don't know why you are adding the word 'credit' to the term "collection agency" but it doesn't belong there.

See Res Ipsa's post just above on 'Collections' and romuo's post for more exciting clues.

Give me even one example of a collection agency attempting to collect on a debt that doesn't involve non-payment of a credit or loan.

Non-payment of your phone, gas, or cable bill.