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Old 12-03-04, 10:26 PM
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Thoughts on eBay/PayPal/Adult Items policy

I know PayPal has restrictions on adult items now and you can be fined for doing a transaction involving those items. I'm getting ready to list some videos and DVDs on eBay and have noticed that some sellers in the Mature Audience listings still say they take PayPal.

I guess I'm just wondering if it's worth it to take a chance of taking PayPal discretely for videos I sell on eBay. I'm leaning towards NOT doing it, I guess I'm just wondering how some sellers are getting around it. I just don't feel like getting fined $500 by PayPal...
Old 12-03-04, 10:33 PM
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You mean you can't buy legal porn with Paypal? That seems a bit moralistic to me--it's supposed to be your money transfer service, not your mother.

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Old 12-03-04, 10:59 PM
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Funniest of all is that you can buy and sell pornographic material on Paypal's parent, eBay. What f'ing aholes.
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PayPal is indeed full of a bunch of f'ing aholes. It was formed by people with some good ambitious, yet terribly flawed, presumptious and unplanned ideas. Luckily, they have enough momentum to keep going, and changing their policies to best fit their own needs.

The no-porn thing was probably just an idea that someone spouted out at a meeting, and they went with it. Unfortunately, no consumers care, except for the people who are actually buying and selling it. But since they already commited to it, they have to stick to it. Ninety percent of their decision-making staff probably thinks it's a dumb idea. But they'll keep going with it 'just because'.

Tell people that they need to send payment through the mail. If they don't like it, they can go elsewhere. People will pay.

Not too hard if you ask me.
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By the way, it helps to say "discrete packaging" somewhere in the description.

I once sold an IV Pole that looked like a giant dick after it was boxed up. Pretty funny. Even the buyer thought the same thing.
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What exactly is Pay Pals policy on this and under what circumstances will they fine you $500.00? I was hoping to unload some older OOP DVDs on Ebay soon and had no idea this was in effect. Is it something Pay Pal polices vigorously or only when somebody files a complaint with them?
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This is simply a way for eBay to pretend to be doing something about the number of adult items for sell on their website. They don't make stop you from listing the items (which is what they would do if they were serious about it), they just make it harder for your to get payment.

You can still get around it though. All you have to do is what until the auction is over and then email the buyer and ask them if they want to pay by Paypal. Then the buyer can simply send money to your account without your having to send an invoice. Always remember: There doesn't have to be a reason for someone to send you money by Paypal.
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I don't believe it's a morality thing, but that they have trouble with returns and disputed charges when it comes to adult items. American Express has similar policies for much the same reasons.
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Originally Posted by bluesparrow
I don't believe it's a morality thing, but that they have trouble with returns and disputed charges when it comes to adult items. American Express has similar policies for much the same reasons.
Right, I think a lot of adult web sites were using PayPal for payment, and those types of sites (especially the automatically renewing ones) have a very high rate of charge backs. So PayPal initially wanted to just stop accepting payment for adult purches on NON-ebay sites, but those sites complained that that was an unfair use of their monopoly, so PayPal stopped accepting payments from ALL adult sites (including eBay).

There are plenty of other sites that you can send to transfer money with, though. I recently used YowCow.com for an online adult purchase, and things went fine.
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all of the paypal haters will appreciate this one.

Get this:

I sell a lot of stuff on ebay, both adult and non-adult items. A guy recently bought 3 adult dvds and 4 RAM chips from me. On the non-adult items, I say I accept paypal, and have the little logo at the bottom. Well, before I could even send the guy a yowcow.com invoice for the dvds, he took it upon himself to pay me for everything through paypal. Paypal has now suspended my account for violating their policies. I just made a several hundred dollar withdrawal into my bank account, which they cancelled. I really need that money. I have already mailed out a bunch of checks for stuff, my account is going to be very very overdrawn. Now I have a full day ahead of me tomorrow waiting on hold to talk to the electric co., the phone co., my ISP, etc...... I am trying to find a way to call paypal or ebay and get this taken care of immediately, but it seems the only way to do this is through email and takes 3 to 5 business days.(will probably turn into longer I'm sure) I have 38 cents in my pocket, that's it. My daughter needs diapers, my dog needs food, I'm freakin screwed. I was really depending on that money. You would think a multi-million dollar company would think of a way to keep people from paying for adult items. The dude paid for them just like you would anything else, he put in the item # and everything. The way they have everything integrated now you would think if someone puts in an adult item#, it wouldnt let them pay. I'm sure it would take all of 5 minutes for some programmer to fix it. What a bunch of retards. Oh yeah, I just realized I have like 50 auctions for non adult items ending tomorrow and everyone will expect to be able to pay me with paypal, which they can't because of this bullcrap. Great....
THIS SUCKS THIS SUCKS THIS SUCKS THIS SUCKS.
THANKS PAYPAL!!!!!!!
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It's amusing to watch PayPal refuse to allow their service used for "adult" goods when they're just about the sleaziest business on the web.
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Originally Posted by fishers53
Get this:

I sell a lot of stuff on ebay, both adult and non-adult items. A guy recently bought 3 adult dvds and 4 RAM chips from me. On the non-adult items, I say I accept paypal, and have the little logo at the bottom. Well, before I could even send the guy a yowcow.com invoice for the dvds, he took it upon himself to pay me for everything through paypal. Paypal has now suspended my account for violating their policies. I just made a several hundred dollar withdrawal into my bank account, which they cancelled. I really need that money. I have already mailed out a bunch of checks for stuff, my account is going to be very very overdrawn. Now I have a full day ahead of me tomorrow waiting on hold to talk to the electric co., the phone co., my ISP, etc...... I am trying to find a way to call paypal or ebay and get this taken care of immediately, but it seems the only way to do this is through email and takes 3 to 5 business days.(will probably turn into longer I'm sure) I have 38 cents in my pocket, that's it. My daughter needs diapers, my dog needs food, I'm freakin screwed. I was really depending on that money. You would think a multi-million dollar company would think of a way to keep people from paying for adult items. The dude paid for them just like you would anything else, he put in the item # and everything. The way they have everything integrated now you would think if someone puts in an adult item#, it wouldnt let them pay. I'm sure it would take all of 5 minutes for some programmer to fix it. What a bunch of retards. Oh yeah, I just realized I have like 50 auctions for non adult items ending tomorrow and everyone will expect to be able to pay me with paypal, which they can't because of this bullcrap. Great....
THIS SUCKS THIS SUCKS THIS SUCKS THIS SUCKS.
THANKS PAYPAL!!!!!!!
You could try the phone numbers listed here: http://www.jdhodges.com/log/1330
http://www.paypalsucks.com/faqs.shtml
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Damn, that's busted. I remember the good old days when people could list porn on ebay without signing in after registering a credit card. Now that was a bad idea as I'm sure more than a few little Billys and Marks spent their allowance on a Jenna Jameson DVD. But to refuse to be the middle man for two adults(that sounds wrong)? That is really stupid. Especially since Ebay is linked with them. If porn is legal (regardless of whether you like it or not), ebay allows its users to sell it, and paypal is an ebay company - whats the big deal? I do use paypal, but I've always been leary of them and this doesn't help matters much.

I would be seriously pissed if they froze my accounts. And its shady of them to take control of your money in the first place. Wouldn't a better method be to just refuse the sale and close someones account with paypal? That way the person could contact the buyer and just have him send the money via snail mail or yowcow? Paypal really could give a shit about their customers it seems.
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There are plenty of other sites that you can send to transfer money with, though. I recently used YowCow.com for an online adult purchase, and things went fine.[/QUOTE]

I use yowcow once and only once, they got my money and then froze my account. It took two weeks to get the money in and they froze it. I have not been told when or if at all it will be released. They are scam merchants if you ask me.
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dude paypal sux ass... it's not just for "chargebacks" , i bought a CD with a parental advisory sticker and they just froze my shit. wtf received this e-mail

"There are certain types of items we don't allow Paypal to be used for due to censorship
policies. Items that fall into this category are adult items, unrated
mainstream movies, mature rated video games, and explicit music CDs."

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