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Am I the only one who really doesn't care about this whole ordeal?
So long as the problem is fixed so that I can go back to buying my DVD's from them, then I could care less...
So long as the problem is fixed so that I can go back to buying my DVD's from them, then I could care less...
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Originally posted by kayak99
AndyMorrison, one of my points was that MOST sites have glitches of varying types. (note the CIA homepage has been changed by crackers , note Microsoft's software is often hacked) You either give up online completely or bear with it. I feel confident the problems can be resolved and don't think they are as serious as some do.
I am certainly not going radical here and giving up on what I think has been an excellent site to buy DVD's. To be honest I doubt you will either.
I will still order from DDD.
Al Padrino - unless you can change your information for ease of your mind, then do nothing.
AndyMorrison, one of my points was that MOST sites have glitches of varying types. (note the CIA homepage has been changed by crackers , note Microsoft's software is often hacked) You either give up online completely or bear with it. I feel confident the problems can be resolved and don't think they are as serious as some do.
I am certainly not going radical here and giving up on what I think has been an excellent site to buy DVD's. To be honest I doubt you will either.
I will still order from DDD.
Al Padrino - unless you can change your information for ease of your mind, then do nothing.
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For Marty888
Keep Your Funny Side Up
I have often purchased from D.D.D.
Where prices are low and shipping is free;
But now a server software glitch
Has broken their security ditch,
And made a purchasing sceptic of me.
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Keep Your Funny Side Up
I have often purchased from D.D.D.
Where prices are low and shipping is free;
But now a server software glitch
Has broken their security ditch,
And made a purchasing sceptic of me.
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Originally posted by invisiblegt
Am I the only one who really doesn't care about this whole ordeal?
Am I the only one who really doesn't care about this whole ordeal?
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I would find it very funny if they say something like this:
"Just for our loyal customers, and because of various problems with the website, we will be offering a special coupon for 20% off of all DVDs. The sale will begin around this Christmas!"
"Just for our loyal customers, and because of various problems with the website, we will be offering a special coupon for 20% off of all DVDs. The sale will begin around this Christmas!"
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by invisiblegt
[B]Am I the only one who really doesn't care about this whole ordeal?
In an effort to get a definite answer to your question, "Am I the only one who really doesn't care about this whole ordeal?", I have comissioned a nation wide poll, and hope to determine in a definitive way if you are the only one. After all one man's ordeal may be another man's small deal. Still, your caring enough to ask about your not caring deserves to be cared to.
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[B]Am I the only one who really doesn't care about this whole ordeal?
In an effort to get a definite answer to your question, "Am I the only one who really doesn't care about this whole ordeal?", I have comissioned a nation wide poll, and hope to determine in a definitive way if you are the only one. After all one man's ordeal may be another man's small deal. Still, your caring enough to ask about your not caring deserves to be cared to.
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Apparently DDD is on some kind of merchant watch for Citibank cards. I've received calls or letters from Citibank as soon as DDD requested authorization and had to confirm my purchases before they would pay the charge.
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This message is still up at 5pm CT:
Of course, this could be left over from my cache!
Maintenance is currently under way on the DeepDiscountDVD.com site. We are currently updating our caching services. The site should return by 4 PM CST.
We do apologize for the inconvenience.
Sincerely,
DeepDiscountDVD.com
We do apologize for the inconvenience.
Sincerely,
DeepDiscountDVD.com
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I've got it! I've got it! The pellet with the poison's in the vessel with the pestle; the chalice from the palace has the brew that is true! Right?
Right. But there's been a change: They broke the chalice from the palace.
They broke the chalice from the palace?
And replaced it with a flagon.
A flagon . . . ?
With the figure of a dragon.
Flagon with a dragon.
Right.
But did you put the pellet with the poison in the vessel with the pestle?
No! The pellet with the poison's in the flagon with the dragon! The vessel with the pestle has the brew that is true!
Right. But there's been a change: They broke the chalice from the palace.
They broke the chalice from the palace?
And replaced it with a flagon.
A flagon . . . ?
With the figure of a dragon.
Flagon with a dragon.
Right.
But did you put the pellet with the poison in the vessel with the pestle?
No! The pellet with the poison's in the flagon with the dragon! The vessel with the pestle has the brew that is true!
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Originally posted by LASERMOVIES
Now that's not true. Why else would you keep reading and posting in the thread if you don't care?
Now that's not true. Why else would you keep reading and posting in the thread if you don't care?
I personally do not care about the security problem, because lengths are being taken to fix this. Mistakes happen. It's our handling of those mistakes that show who we are as people. This thread has quickly gone from people concerned and wondering to borderline paranoia, personal attacks on those in operation at DDD, and those threatening legal action.
I think we all need to step back, take a deep breath, and calm down...
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Originally posted by invisiblegt
I am reading and posting because I am interested in seeing firsthand what the representative from DDD has to say.
I am reading and posting because I am interested in seeing firsthand what the representative from DDD has to say.
I personally do not care about the security problem, because lengths are being taken to fix this. Mistakes happen. It's our handling of those mistakes that show who we are as people. This thread has quickly gone from people concerned and wondering to borderline paranoia, personal attacks on those in operation at DDD, and those threatening legal action.
Okay, now I wonder if you are working for DDD? Sounds like you're doing spin control for the company.
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Originally posted by BrentLumkin
I would find it very funny if they say something like this:
"Just for our loyal customers, and because of various problems with the website, we will be offering a special coupon for 50% off of all DVDs, including pre-orders. The sale will begin around this Christmas!"
I would find it very funny if they say something like this:
"Just for our loyal customers, and because of various problems with the website, we will be offering a special coupon for 50% off of all DVDs, including pre-orders. The sale will begin around this Christmas!"
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I'll still buy from DDD since I changed my info early on to prevent any problems, but if something happened to my account I might be mad too and not use them. I don't even like the fact that people saw my real name and address when I edited my account, but at least some good came from that in figuring out how logging in makes your account visible.
What is the Ebay/Paypal problem exactly?
I always hated how Paypal forces you to register your bank account with them. If someone breaks into your Paypal they could literally drain you of your life savings by having direct access to your bank account. The way I got around this was to open a 2nd checking account under my same banking account. So now I have one newer account with all my money in it and the old one registered with Paypal remains empty. I just use my CC for Paypal transfers.
What is the Ebay/Paypal problem exactly?
I always hated how Paypal forces you to register your bank account with them. If someone breaks into your Paypal they could literally drain you of your life savings by having direct access to your bank account. The way I got around this was to open a 2nd checking account under my same banking account. So now I have one newer account with all my money in it and the old one registered with Paypal remains empty. I just use my CC for Paypal transfers.
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If I were the DDD tech people, I'd be equally concerned about WHY suddenly the biggest security measure in place @ DDD suddenly broke down (and apparently at the exact same time period as the "Seeing Other Members' Accounts" problem) -- that security measure being: requiring a customer to physically re-enter their entire 16-digit credit-card number whenever anything in their "Account Info" area is altered.
Perhaps this added level of security had broken down well before Friday's cache difficulties -- I don't know. Had anyone here actually been able to change their account data WITHOUT having to re-type their CC # *before* Friday, October 8th? I only noticed it after seeing this thread (and probably most others only noticed it then as well).
But, when analyzing this major security cache problem on DDD, if that one piece of added security had been in place from Friday through today, this cache problem would have been, IMO, little more than a very minor annoyance -- because if any a**hole DID, in fact, decide to be a pee-pee-head and want to steal from another DDD customer after seeing a strange name pop up on their computer screen, they still would not have been able to CHANGE the customer's address without also re-typing the CC number as well. The most the punk could do would be to send me (or you or some other stranger) 169 copies of Friday The 13th, Part 8.
So, even more than the "cache" problems DDD is/was having, I'm even more concerned over HOW and why that one major security defense of forcing a complete CC number re-typing was disabled at such a critical time.
Seems very odd these major security breaches would occur at exactly the same time, thereby permitting any thief the ability to change our addresses to their own, and opening the floodgates for way more headaches for DDD (and legit DDD consumers).
Perhaps this added level of security had broken down well before Friday's cache difficulties -- I don't know. Had anyone here actually been able to change their account data WITHOUT having to re-type their CC # *before* Friday, October 8th? I only noticed it after seeing this thread (and probably most others only noticed it then as well).
But, when analyzing this major security cache problem on DDD, if that one piece of added security had been in place from Friday through today, this cache problem would have been, IMO, little more than a very minor annoyance -- because if any a**hole DID, in fact, decide to be a pee-pee-head and want to steal from another DDD customer after seeing a strange name pop up on their computer screen, they still would not have been able to CHANGE the customer's address without also re-typing the CC number as well. The most the punk could do would be to send me (or you or some other stranger) 169 copies of Friday The 13th, Part 8.
So, even more than the "cache" problems DDD is/was having, I'm even more concerned over HOW and why that one major security defense of forcing a complete CC number re-typing was disabled at such a critical time.
Seems very odd these major security breaches would occur at exactly the same time, thereby permitting any thief the ability to change our addresses to their own, and opening the floodgates for way more headaches for DDD (and legit DDD consumers).
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Suddenly we can see other people's info and at the very same time we can suddenly arbitrarily change other members' addresses to our own without the normal security measures in place?? Sounds ultra-suspicious to me. Sounds to me like some hacker was very busy Friday.
The first thing I'm going to check when the DDD site returns to "normal" is to check to see if the "Must Re-Type CC Number" restriction is back in place. If not, they've still got a problem to fix.
The first thing I'm going to check when the DDD site returns to "normal" is to check to see if the "Must Re-Type CC Number" restriction is back in place. If not, they've still got a problem to fix.
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Originally posted by invisiblegt
I personally do not care about the security problem, because lengths are being taken to fix this.
I personally do not care about the security problem, because lengths are being taken to fix this.
Originally posted by invisiblegt
Mistakes happen. It's our handling of those mistakes that show who we are as people.
Mistakes happen. It's our handling of those mistakes that show who we are as people.
Originally posted by invisiblegt
This thread has quickly gone from people concerned and wondering to borderline paranoia, personal attacks on those in operation at DDD, and those threatening legal action.
I think we all need to step back, take a deep breath, and calm down...
This thread has quickly gone from people concerned and wondering to borderline paranoia, personal attacks on those in operation at DDD, and those threatening legal action.
I think we all need to step back, take a deep breath, and calm down...
Bottom line: Mischievous unknown miscreants could have spent the weekend shipping DVDs around the world and billing it all to your credit card. It probably wasn't happening, but could you be sure? It was certainly possible. And DDD was stone silent for 2 and 1/2 days and did nothing about it. Until this morning who knew when or if they were ever going to acknowledge and fix it.
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Originally posted by seymouru
We may never know what really happened. They're unlikely to admit to the real issues or causes behind the problems we've seen, as evidenced by their spin attempt this morning.
We may never know what really happened. They're unlikely to admit to the real issues or causes behind the problems we've seen, as evidenced by their spin attempt this morning.
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Originally posted by davidvp
Suddenly we can see other people's info and at the very same time we can suddenly arbitrarily change other members' addresses to our own without the normal security measures in place?? Sounds ultra-suspicious to me. Sounds to me like some hacker was very busy Friday.
Suddenly we can see other people's info and at the very same time we can suddenly arbitrarily change other members' addresses to our own without the normal security measures in place?? Sounds ultra-suspicious to me. Sounds to me like some hacker was very busy Friday.