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habers 11-03-02 07:17 PM


Originally posted by Silvrdime
... It does not matter if you purchased one, a dozen, or a million, in the end the Disney promotion was meant for a few. Even if everyone in the "community" ordered one; so this offer would not get terminated, does not make it right...
i agree totally

spankyj 11-03-02 08:23 PM

It will be interesting to see how this all plans out.

gcribbs 11-03-02 11:47 PM

Re: Its very simple
 

Originally posted by lsalrus


Group 2: People who only made one order (mostly for fear their orders would be cancelled if they made more than one) want to see anyone who made multiple orders have their orders cancelled: this group is worse than group 1, this group is made of of jealous people who are also hypocritical.



I ordered one and had no fear of my order being cancelled. Had I wanted more I could have set up multiple accounts and made multiple orders on each account or done what others did and placed multiple orders.

I did not. If Disney is thinking of cancelling orders I hope they look at the solution of letting every customer get one order and cancelling the remainder-

Why do I feel that way- Jealousy :lol:

Being practical. Many online companies have done the same thing on misprices in the past and been applauded for it by the majority of members here.

I have been here for a long time and got in on many deals. I assure you I am not jealous of those who ordered more than 1 dvd at this price :lol:

jimmywong 11-04-02 12:27 AM


Originally posted by Silvrdime
Regardless of what group you fall into, we all know the coupon was intended for a select few. It does not matter if you purchased one, a dozen, or a million, in the end the Disney promotion was meant for a few.
My problem with all this is .. why should I assume that? And why should I assume it's only one per customer when the coupon clearly said "ONE PER ORDER" when used? I guess with this line of thinking we can always assume that whenever there's a deal out there, it is always a mistake. And based on that and your morality, you should never buy anything that might be considered a "deal" if you feel in your heart that the company is losing money or does not INTEND the deal to be worked this way.

Since when is it my responsibility to judge their INTENTIONS. I can only respond to facts. If Disney makes it clear later that it was not their intention for the coupon to be used that way, then I can make adjustments at that time. If they want to limit the coupon to 1 per account or address, then they should make it clear on the website.

To answer your possible questions, YES I bought several DVD's and NO they were not for eBay -- they were for ME! But I don't have a problem if someone wants to buy 500 copies and sell them on EBAY -- that is the American way! (I've lost out on EVERY Criterion deal on Overstock, but I'm not bitter --- no I'm not -- that's the way it goes ...) I've gotten deals so good, I can't tell you about them here ....

The Disney Store had their discs for $10 and there were reports that people were buying 70 discs presumably to sell on EBAY. If Disney did not want that to happen, they should put a limit of 2 of a title / person. Everybody was griping because Disney pulled the deal early and that some of the reason was the abuse. Then miraculously 3 weeks later they have the same sale. I guess they really were making money. I see this the same way --- but I guess we won't know until tomorrow.

dvd-fanman 11-04-02 12:56 AM


Originally posted by jimmywong
My problem with all this is .. why should I assume that? And why should I assume it's only one per customer when the coupon clearly said "ONE PER ORDER" when used?
This code that was posted was not intended for the general public to just use for a discount. It was to be used in conjunction with an actual, physical, card that was given to guests of DisneyStore.com and other Disney Business units. All restrictions including use requirements and such were listed on the actual card. So the fact that those were not initially posted on the website is a moot point.

If you had more than one card, then by all means place as many orders as cards that you have. If you had 2 cards, then place two orders. However, placing orders without having the card is indeed defrauding the company out of money.

What Are DVDs 11-04-02 01:19 AM

I talked to a csr on the phone and asked to cancel one order because I didn't want it....and she noticed that I made a few other orders using the same coupon....

it seemed like she was smiling and proud to tell me that my order will be put on hold for 30 days until I mail in my "HOLIDAY" code cards........

wtf

dvd-fanman 11-04-02 01:37 AM


Originally posted by What Are DVDs
I talked to a csr on the phone and asked to cancel one order because I didn't want it....and she noticed that I made a few other orders using the same coupon....

it seemed like she was smiling and proud to tell me that my order will be put on hold for 30 days until I mail in my "HOLIDAY" code cards........

wtf

See my post directly above yours.

murpm3 11-04-02 08:24 AM

This code that was posted was not intended for the general public to just use for a discount. It was to be used in conjunction with an actual, physical, card that was given to guests of DisneyStore.com and other Disney Business units. All restrictions including use requirements and such were listed on the actual card. So the fact that those were not initially posted on the website is a moot point.

Its interesting though....I had never known about these cards. There was nothing on the website that said this was a "card" specific coupon. Can I claim ignorance? ;)

Secondly, is Mickey working in Disneystore's IT department because apparently he is too dumb of a mouse to limit this coupon and put restrictions on it.

Brak55 11-04-02 09:40 AM

You know, I somewhat feel bad for the businesses that get taken to the cleaners on some of these "deals"; however, I quickly get over it when I realize the whole thing could be avoided by using unique numbers on each "card" rather than things like HOLIDAY. Yup, causes a bit more cost in the printing of the cards or sending of the e-mails, but it certainly would cut down on the perceived abuse.

dvd-fanman 11-04-02 10:09 AM


Originally posted by Brak55
You know, I somewhat feel bad for the businesses that get taken to the cleaners on some of these "deals"; however, I quickly get over it when I realize the whole thing could be avoided by using unique numbers on each "card" rather than things like HOLIDAY. Yup, causes a bit more cost in the printing of the cards or sending of the e-mails, but it certainly would cut down on the perceived abuse.
Perhaps there wouldn't be a need to print unique codes on each card if our society as a whole had a few more morals....

djones6746 11-04-02 10:39 AM


Originally posted by dvd-fanman
This code that was posted was not intended for the general public to just use for a discount. It was to be used in conjunction with an actual, physical, card that was given to guests of DisneyStore.com and other Disney Business units. All restrictions including use requirements and such were listed on the actual card. So the fact that those were not initially posted on the website is a moot point.

If you had more than one card, then by all means place as many orders as cards that you have. If you had 2 cards, then place two orders. However, placing orders without having the card is indeed defrauding the company out of money.


Defrauding the company out of money??? -rolleyes-

I placed the order thinking this was some kind of legitimate $15.00 off dvds which Disney was promoting. I did not read into everything until this thread was created and moved(thanks to me) to where it belonged. Defraud is a big word to throw around so you may want to keep it to yourself in the future. Not everyone here who placed an order(and did not have a card) thought they were defrauding Disney by placing their orders. Disney is at fault here for being ignorant enough to issue a standard code which could be used by anyone who came across it. Maybe in the future they will issue promotional GC's...if Amazon can do it...why not Big Bad Disney???

Manzana 11-04-02 10:44 AM

I guess I must be the only one calling the Disney Store. According to the rep, they made their decision and it was the decision I expected them to do because (in my opinion) the Walt Disney Company is one of the greediest companies around.

I was told ALL orders placed with the HOLIDAY coupon are placed on 30-day hold. You must physically send in your cards within 30 days to get your discount, otherwise the orders will be cancelled. This includes everyone who placed their orders BEFORE they put this restriction on the deal. The only good news is that they won't ship and charge full price.

I am disappointed that they didn't at least honor each peron's first order without requiring the card because I threw mine away after I had placed it and gotten the confirmation. I didn't see anything on the card saying I must send it in.

So I have basically wasted an hour or more of my time checking with the Disney store and these forums in hopes of getting a good deal on a few DVDs, even just 1 DVD. I guess the people in the group of people who missed the deal and were hoping everyone will get their orders cancelled have had their wishes fulfilled. I find it ironic and extremely convenient (as another poster said) that whenever I do get in on a deal in time, it gets cancelled, but all those deals like the E.T. gift set for $25 that I miss go through without a hitch. Talk about luck! Of course I should've known better with the Disney store... this is Disney after all!

Anyway, I hope people complain that they did not at least allow 1 order per person without the card. So I'm done messing with this and I'll just let them cancel my orders. I'm also returning my Lilo & Stitch preorder and $10 gift card that I won't be able to use now. The Disney Store has nothing I want except movies and their movies are overpriced except when they have specials, which I either always miss or they cancel on me like this one. Oh well. Live and learn.

jimmywong 11-04-02 11:00 AM


Originally posted by dvd-fanman
This code that was posted was not intended for the general public to just use for a discount. It was to be used in conjunction with an actual, physical, card that was given to guests of DisneyStore.com and other Disney Business units. All restrictions including use requirements and such were listed on the actual card. So the fact that those were not initially posted on the website is a moot point.
It's not a moot point if you don't have the card. I can only respond to what I read, not what I don't. Again, without the proper documentation, I can only GUESS at their INTENTIONS and I don't see why that is my responsibility. Pardon me for taking anything at face value. I guess I will have to assume in the future that any discount Disney offers comes with some restrictions that I am not aware of and therefore is, in all probability, not valid for me.

ricwhite 11-04-02 11:26 AM

When coupons on posted on forums and coupon boards, most people don't know which are legitimate or not. Most people are just looking for a good deal. They try the coupon and if it works, it is assumed to be legitimate.

I think it totally inappropriate to call a person a "thief" or a "defrauder" because he or she uses a coupon code. I search on coupon boards all the time for discounts. Whenever I shop online I ALWAYS conduct a search for a coupon that may lower my final price.

Personally, I used the HOLIDAY code. Since it worked fine, I didn't feel there was any problem. I didn't have any idea that the disney.com folks are total idiots. For that, I feel very sorry.

This happened to me before, however. A couple of years ago, I found online an Etoys coupon for $5 off. It didn't have any minimum. I placed several orders of books using the coupon. Only after the orders were placed, I got an email stating that the coupon I used was not intended for the general public. I had no idea -- and I'm certainly NOT going to call the vendor every time I'm going to use a coupon code to ask if it's legitimate. The online vendors have to do a better job of programming their purchasing software in order to weed out any inappropriate use. If they don't. . . they are at fault -- not me!

mr_jbloggs 11-04-02 12:11 PM

Here is a deal on some Disney DVDs IMHO:

If you go to the Canadian Amazon site for the following 3-pack

Pixar's 15th Anniversary: Bug's Life/Toy Story/Toy Story 2 [3 Discs]

http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/AS...8114971-4969962

You will notice on the same page

GREAT BUY
Buy Pixar's 15th Anniversary: Bug's Life/Toy Story/Toy... with Monsters, Inc. (Widescreen/Full Screen) (2 Discs) today! Buy Together Today: CDN$ 61.23
You Save: CDN$ 25.75

With coupon CDN$ 51.23 + 6.47 Shipping = CDN$ 57.70 / US$ 37.06

I used US$ 1 = CDN$ 1.557

That works out to US$ 9.27 per movie.

murpm3 11-04-02 12:24 PM


Originally posted by dvd-fanman
Perhaps there wouldn't be a need to print unique codes on each card if our society as a whole had a few more morals....
Get off your high horse...When a grocery store puts on a sale for Diet Pepsi 24 packs I am all over it. In fact I got back every day to buy more and stock up.

I guess I need more morals. Give me a break....if you saw a deal like this you would have done it too.

When I entered the code into the website it did not say anything about it being a special promotion for specific customers. Of course not...it just said promotional discount. People are immoral for taking advantage of the deal?

atari2600 11-04-02 12:31 PM

well thats too bad for disney. im sure they just lots alot of current and future business. i will never even bother ordering from then again.

Rogue588 11-04-02 12:37 PM


Originally posted by djones6746
Defrauding the company out of money???
:lol: Yeah, i'm sure Disney is real torn up about defrauding me outta $37 for 3 slices of pizza and a small coke on a recent trip to Disneyland. But hey, thems morals for ya.

Anyways...I agree with djones6746. Maybe the "morality" question comes into play when you hit the site up for copies that you intend to hawk at eBay.com. For me personally it was about catching up with those two discs I missed at the Disney Store $10 sale. [Not cuz they weren't there, because my brain overloaded once I got in the store. Ya'll know what i'm talking about. ;)]

dvd-fanman 11-04-02 12:38 PM


Originally posted by murpm3
Give me a break....if you saw a deal like this you would have done it too.
Well, indeed I will be ordering from the website since I do have a Holiday Magic Card in my possession that I received from a previous DisneyStore.com order.

falken 11-04-02 12:40 PM


Originally posted by dvd-fanman
Perhaps there wouldn't be a need to print unique codes on each card if our society as a whole had a few more morals....
Perhaps... But tell me, which solution would be the best business model? Hope that society as a whole will suddenly stop and go, "Wait... is this a good idea for the corporation? I bet they didn't intend for everyone to use this coupon... I had better check with them or just not use it all, it may hurt their business." *OR* They could think for 7 seconds and go, "WAIT! People may try to use this discount card online AND in the store... and wait... what if they tell their friends this discount code... or worse... post it online for the world to see? We had better figure out a better solution."

I suppose banks wouldn't have to lock their vaults at night is society as a whole had perfect morals either, and perhaps I wouldn't have a .45cal on me when doing a ATM withdraw late at night (permit, legal). It all comes down to protecting yourself, not relying on good nature of others. That's the way the world is.

SLOmade 11-04-02 12:44 PM

Just got off the phone with Disney. They are not honoring any orders off of the HOLIDAY coupon, saying that you have mail in the physical coupon in order to redeem it. They suck and should be somehow sanctioned for their own incompetence.

falken 11-04-02 12:44 PM


Originally posted by atari2600
well thats too bad for disney. im sure they just lots alot of current and future business. i will never even bother ordering from then again.
Have you ever ordered from disneystore.com before (at 5.95 shipping, probaly not)? Are you saying if tomorrow they had a online DVD sale, all DVD's were $5 you wouldn't go purchase anything because of this deal?

habers 11-04-02 12:53 PM


Originally posted by SLOmade
Just got off the phone with Disney. They are not honoring any orders off of the HOLIDAY coupon, saying that you have mail in the physical coupon in order to redeem it. They suck and should be somehow sanctioned for their own incompetence.
wow, what big balls they have.

This is going to make a lot of people very unhappy, even if you have "the card"

what about the people who ordered and threw away there card?

Bah Humbug to di$ney

techiedragon 11-04-02 12:56 PM

There is a fairly standard way that generic coupon codes like this work, whether at amazon.com or digitaleyes.net (with their new coupon) or wherever. If the coupon is accepted, then it's valid. If the coupon is not (you've already used it, etc.), then it's not valid.

Any company that puts out a code like this and basically says, "Oh, this will work for you and your friends over and over again, but don't tell anyone, and please don't use it more than once" is naive and foolish and needs to learn that coupons don't work that way. That's why they take coupons from you at the grocery store or write void over them once they're used.

This is not a morality issue. This is an issue of Disney not programming their site *or* training their CSRs properly (as people were able to use the code over the phone as well) and then trying to cover themselves by making this into a rebate instead of a coupon.

Not only is the whole coupon -> rebate switch incredible, but it will end up penalizing all the people who had the card in the first place and threw it away after placing the order because they didn't need it anymore. Once I had the receipt (saved webpage) showing my final price, I thought I was done. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember seeing anything on the card that said that it needed to be saved and mailed in.

I would be okay if they said that there was a fluke in their system allowing the coupon to count more than once for the same account and only one order per person would be fulfilled. At least then they would be admitting their own blame in this sitaution and being somewhat responsible for the consequences of their lack of foresight.

chanster 11-04-02 01:02 PM

God damn it. I hate these damn threads. There is nothing wrong with placing more than order - but you have got to know that people are gettting more and more hesitant to post deals here because people use them for financial gain, not for "love" of movies or DVD, which I thought this forum was based on.

As for arguing you don't know the terms of the coupon - that isn't an excuse. Ignorance is not bliss, you cannot claim ignorance of the promotion details allows you to get an order. I placed 1 order for Lilo and Stitch. I hope Disney honors it, but from the sounds that people were raping this dead corpse of a deal, I doubt it.

Ginwen 11-04-02 01:09 PM


Originally posted by SLOmade
Just got off the phone with Disney. They are not honoring any orders off of the HOLIDAY coupon, saying that you have mail in the physical coupon in order to redeem it. They suck and should be somehow sanctioned for their own incompetence.
I would cancel now if I was sure this was true (since I got rid of my card after placing the order), but my order still shows the correct total (15.13--it was one of the Walt Disney Treasures) on their website.

Also, this deal was posted everywhere, not just here. On another website, I saw where people tried to use it to order Gift Cards--not just once, but over and over. Stuff like that is probably what really killed the deal.

JuryDuty 11-04-02 01:27 PM


Originally posted by gregschmidt
I would cancel now if I was sure this was true (since I got rid of my card after placing the order), but my order still shows the correct total (15.13--it was one of the Walt Disney Treasures) on their website.
Yeah, I'm going to wait and see, too. My order still shows the correct pricing after coupon and shows that my order is active, at the warehouse. The worst that'll happen is that it'll be cancelled.

marty888 11-04-02 01:45 PM

Has it ever ocurred to anyone that the person and/or persons who posted the information <b>without including the little detail about mailing the "holiday" card in</b> caused the problem? Why is everbody so quick to blame Disney (everybody was lovin' them last week with their $10 sale!) for incomplete information posted here and on other forums?

DVDKrayzie 11-04-02 02:25 PM


Originally posted by marty888
Has it ever ocurred to anyone that the person and/or persons who posted the information <b>without including the little detail about mailing the "holiday" card in</b> caused the problem? Why is everbody so quick to blame Disney (everybody was lovin' them last week with their $10 sale!) for incomplete information posted here and on other forums?
you weren't initially supposed t o have to mail it in, they changed the rules after the orders were placed

ricwhite 11-04-02 03:03 PM


Originally posted by marty888
Has it ever ocurred to anyone that the person and/or persons who posted the information <b>without including the little detail about mailing the "holiday" card in</b> caused the problem? Why is everbody so quick to blame Disney (everybody was lovin' them last week with their $10 sale!) for incomplete information posted here and on other forums?
If you were supposed to mail in the card, why even have a "code" then???? Why not just mail in the card and have the Disney employees enter the discount???? Nope The code was printed so you can go online yourself and enter it for the discount. Disney's COMPLETE stupidity allowed it. And it's completely unbelieveable that Disney would feel that ONLY those with cards would find the code. This is just so laughably idiotic I can't even believe it!! What total fools! Could it be that "GOOFY" was in charge of this promotion???

dvdlovers 11-04-02 03:06 PM

The coupon was posted atleast in FW,AT, and TB that I know off. Either we get or we don't. Why should we all be fighting about it.

Eric F 11-04-02 04:26 PM

Don't sweat it. As others have said they can't charge more to your card than in the final receipt.

I don't understand why people feel they are entitled to these deals. They are retail operations who can accept or reject business from anyone they want. I don't blame them for not wanting to honor this.

You'ld think they'ld know better at this point. Oh well...

ebs0303 11-04-02 07:25 PM

My "tracking" also says at the wherehouse. I guess time will tell. Too bad though, I really liked A Bug's Life for 6.44. :(

Mikey 11-04-02 08:19 PM

I just went ahead and cancelled my order. After reading some of the posts, I realized that the coupon wasn't intended for the public but for some people who apparently spent a sum of money and then had to submit the paperwork via the mail. Since I didn't do that, I decided that it wasn't right for me to keep my order. Plus, I didn't want to have to go through any hassles of having a non refundable fee for shipping and handling.

gcribbs 11-04-02 10:37 PM

you win some you lose some.

No biggie.

I will wait it out and see. If they ship it great if not no problem at all. I might think twice on buying a dvd from disney in the future especially the .com part.

Skull 11-04-02 10:47 PM

Has anyone's DVD shipped?

TnK4God 11-05-02 12:29 AM

all of my orders show as active and in the distribution ceter, and my c.c.'s (I used 4 different for each order) show not charged but pending, for the right amount.

Not sure what to think so far, maybe good, maybe a fight.

Troy

What Are DVDs 11-05-02 03:47 AM

thank you Di$ney for the cheap thrills!
You made my heart stop beating for a second



....and then you kicked me in the nuts to make it start up again




oh well, I guess it was fun while it lasted......
that's the last time I plan on wasting time with di$neystore.com

What Are DVDs 11-05-02 04:10 AM

I hope Di$ney makes Tarzan and Jane part 2, Pocahontas 3, and *uck Neverlasted part 2....


that way I can laugh at them when they start collecting dust on the shelves of best buy, walmart, and fry's

:lol: muahahhahah :lol:


(presses fingers gently together) EXCELLENT!
http://sb.eyeonspringfield.co.uk/pictures/31.gif

habers 11-05-02 02:28 PM

There is a message on an other board that says that his item shipped at full price. I forsee alot of disputes happening


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