I have 2 questions regarding this topic

1. If you are returning an item at BB i see the same always tell you where to go and check what you are returning. Can you also say NO to this?

2. Say I go in with a backpack, There is a BB that I went to that had it's own entrance to a parking lot and another that connected to the mall, I came in from the BB entrance and went straight to the mall entrance, regardless of that dose BB have the right to ask me to open my bag and look inside?

I think the whole check thing is a complete joke and next time when they ask me I will simply reply with "no thanks" or "nah" and continue to walk out.

Removed personal attack - stevevt

Why can't people just be NICE to each other? I'm never rude in stores, and am almost always treated well.

I agree that people should be nice to each other. And the Forum Rules agree with both of us.

I have somethings for you guys to think about.

Why do we all allow airport security to check our personal baggages? There's a reason for that.

How about school library? I've been at many college libraries. Many of those require the visitors to open and declare their backpack before they leave. There's a reason for that.

They're different in detail and importance of the situation. Anyway, think about it.

They are also representatives of the corporate company. There's more to their job than just checking receipts. Any employee represents the corporation in some small way. If they are enforcing a policy which is inherently wrong (which is of course itself up to debate) then I believe we have every right to inform them or resist.

By your rationale, I'm just a lowly programmer. If I find a flaw in the technical design of a project I'm working on, why should I bother bringing it up or doing anything about it when the client notices it? I'm just doing my job. It's someone else's responsibility, right?

Maybe they recognized him for the convicted felon that he is!

"Resist" by not going to the store. Don't make a minimium wage employee go through you butt hairs, so that you can make your "point." which will do nothing to change any policy..

I have no problem letting this person look at my receipt. When I purchase just one item, I usually make sure they don't give me a bag (call me a tree hugger I guess). Letting this person look at my receipt is no big deal. I don't think I've ever had to "wait" in line. People who don't like this policy should take their business elsewhere.

Regarding the airport, of course that is for the safety of all passengers. Regarding the library, they are a not-for-profit entity and cannot put normal security measures in place (wide isles, employees everywhere, cameras, etc).

As far as the licking of receipts go, let me explain a little more. I'm not talking about holding it in your hand and spitting on it or anything, what I am saying is to just hold it in your mouth as you are straightening up your bags in the cart. If it gets a little wet, so be it.

Yeah, I know. I very rarely go to Sams now, and when I did I only held the receipt in my mouth or scratched myself maybe a total of five times, and there have never been hairs stuck to the receipt.

There's just something about the door checker at Sams (both the entrance and exit) that grates me the wrong way, there. I am friendly and nice to everybody at Sams, except for the door people. And it's only there, I shoot the bull with the Wal-Mart greeter, and am practically on a first name basis with the Meijer greeter. But there is something about the door people at Sams...

Why does Sams need a door exit checker anyway? To get to the door, you have to have gone through the cashiers.

Heat just wondering what is the origin of your sig?

It's the chorus to a song by Andres Cabas, a new Columbian singer. You can hear the first minute or so of the song at: http://www.terra.com.co/proyectos/an...iscografia.htm , and you might be able to see the video at www.htv.com (it was on heavy rotation on HTV (Hispanic TV), which shows Spanish language videos 24 hours per day with maybe 2 minutes of commercials per hour (much, much better than MTV)).

Heat: The point of the exit door checker at Sam's is the same as it is in ANY retail store. I don't have to go through a cashier to have products in hand, I could have just looked like it. They ask for the receipt as a proof of purchase...Sam's is a big store, a Wherehouse Club, no one person could keep track of all the people near the exit door. Also, because it is a Wherehouse Club, the greeter checks to see if you are a member. Sam's policy is very logical for their procedure, whether you see it that way or not.

If they wanted to, they could, I know of no other store that checks everybody (I guess Frys does, but I have never seen a Frys; and Blockbuster just checks items not in bags which I can understand).

Just to make this clear, though, the root of my anger at Sam's is not their receipt checker, it is that (as I mentioned in a thread above) in the late 80s they gave me a "lifetime" membership card (with 5% markup, but no annual fee), they took it from me in the early 90s when they were pushing for everybody to pay $25 (now $35) for the privelidge of shopping there. I don't like Sam's policy of checking everybody as the leave, and I don't like Sam's. You might say "then don't go there", I usually don't. I find myself there maybe once or twice a year, though. And I will be stopping by there this week to pick up a few bottles of wine (here in Springfield, they have a sign by their liquor saying that a membership is not needed to buy liquor, and there is no markup if you are not a member (something to do with their liquor license)).

Look guys, I am not saying that putting your receipt in your mouth and making it wet before a door checker looks at it is a good thing, I do it sometimes because I have a long standing grudge against Sams (if you give somebody a lifetime card, don't take it away five years later saying that you no longer honor those). Some of you think I am an evil person, or at least a childish person. Sure, I can be if I want to be, and at Sams I want to be. I am not like that anywhere else, but then again, other stores haven't done to me what Sams has done.

This thread was about a guy who refused to show his receit at best buy when he was leaving with some merchandise. Technically he was correct, showing a receipt there is voluntary since they don't have a sign saying that all receipts will be checked. My point was that if he really wanted to, he could have made his receipt so gross (beyond what I have done) that they would not want to check it, but of course they would have to, as opposed to leaving the store making them think that he may have stolen the merchandise.

[Highjack] Where are you from Heat? Venezuela here [/Highjack]

I was amazed that you actually answered the questions. Obviously, you don't get my points.

SSRIOON:

So, what was your point? I don't think I got it either.

Heh, you mean that you are not advocating the banning of bag checks at airports?

A store has the right to check bags, if they post a sign saying that they will be checking bags. In the original post, the guy was just pushing the issue that Best Buy hadn't posted the sign. Airports and campus universities have signs. As for Sam's, I don't know if they have a sign or not, but it is a moot point as I show them my receipt.

GatorDeb: I'm from Illinois, lived here most of my life. I just like some Spanish language music.

The door checker verifies that the cashier charged all the items in your cart. This is made easier at Sam's by listing the total item count on the receipt so that the checker can speedily give an eyeball on how many items are in the cart.

The number one source of shrinkage is due to employees, not customers. Without door checking, you might have cashiers not ring up several items if the customer was a friend of theirs...

The reason stores check the receipt is so they can put a mark on it to prevent shop lifting.

With out the mark or the hole punch you can walk into a best buy with an empty bag in your pocket and a receipt, then slip another of the same title on your receipt into the bag and walk out. Of course the store could just check the time and date on your receipt but it is much eaiser for the low paid employee to look for a mark or hole punch.

The signs in stores stating they want to check that you paid the correct price or got every thing you paid for is just BS

No, they don't have a right to check your bags just because they have a sign displayed. They have a right to post the sign. They have a right to refuse you entry unless you leave your bags at a check in counter.

Just because someone posts a sign doesn't make it legal, true, or enforceable. Just like when you park your car at a pay garage and get a parking stub: If your car is damaged and you complain, they will likely point to the stub and say "see, it says not responsible for damages". The stub is a receipt, not a contract, and the mere act of you accepting the stub as a receipt does not commit you to any contractual agreements.

So why do businesses post such unenforcable signs? Because most people believe them, and it makes most of the problems go away. What if Best Buy posted a sign by the door saying "Management reserves the right to perform a body cavity search on all patrons". Would you say - oh well, they do have a sign saying they have the right?

A membership club is a different matter, as by becoming a member you may be agreeing to the bag search.

I think that the next time I go to one of these stores that does this check I'm going to eat the receipt right in front of them. Tear it up into a few strips and just swallow the receipt. It would be worth it just to see the look on their face.


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Originally posted by greenerdog

Well, there is that one hot little blonde manager at the BB here...

No no no, THEY would get to do the cavity search on YOU!

I just got back from Best Buy!!!

To make a long story short (for now), I made a purchase and made my way through the door. A rather large fellow asked to see my receipt. I said no. He asked again, I then told him that what I held in my hands was mine. He then asked if I had come into the store with it. I told him no, that I had just paid for it. I then continued to walk out. He then continues on saying "sir I need to mark your receipt" I then asked him if he was placing me under arrest. He said no, so I continued walking. He followed myself and a friend out to the car and made note of my friends license plate numbers.

That my my fun at best buy. I didn't feel much like eating the receipt, it's made of that thermal paper and I don't know what that might do to a person.

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This is the note I am about to fire off to best buy:

As I was leaving the store one of your employees stopped me to see my receipt. I told him no. He then told me again that he needed to see my receipt. I told him that what I was holding was mine. He then asked me if I had walked into the store with it. I told him that I had just purchased it (a dvd), and continued on out the door. He then followed my outside and insisted on seeing the receipt. I then asked him if he was placing me under arrest. He said no so I continued walking. He proceeded to follow myself and a friend out to my friends car where he took note of my friends license plate number.

I feel extremely violated by your policies and employees behavior. Once I have made a purchase what I hold is mine, and not yours to inspect. Impeding my path out the door and to wherever I am heading is essencially placing me under arrest and I suggest that if you do not want a lawsuit on your hands that you change your policies that are meant to harrass everyone immediately.

Your cashier is also violating a policy. Visa has a policy that states that you are NOT to check the id of every purchase made with a credit card. Your cashier asked for a picture id before I signed for the item. My signature (unless there is an issue with my signature not matching what is on the card or the card not being signed) IS identification. You are not allowed to check id on everyone who pays with a credit card.

I like your prices, but am not appreciative of your business infringing on the rights of people who are guilty of nothing other than shopping at your store.

If I am treated as I was today the next time I am finished with my shopping in your stores I will be contacting the police to inform them of your harrassment and unlawful detainment.

Thank you

*real name removed*

(and since I have an account with you, you have my address on file so I am obviously not trying to hide anything, I just don't appreciate the infringement on my rights)