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Old 11-21-19, 07:12 PM
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Re: 2019 NFL Regular Season Thread -- Week 12

Vikings all-time leading scorer kicker Fred Cox (age 80) has passed away. He also invented the nerf football.

Vikings only have 6 players with retired numbers and he isn't one of them. That's surprising.
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Pats over Cowboys is a mortal lock.
Normally, and in NE, I'd agree. But this Pats offense is just meh and they win with defense. I think they are beatable. I'm not expecting a Cowboys win but I won't be shocked if they do win.

What's the best offense NE has faced so far?
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Normally, and in NE, I'd agree. But this Pats offense is just meh and they win with defense. I think they are beatable. What's the best offense they've faced so far?

They lost.
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Well that game was a bummer. The better QB won for sure. It's almost like you have to throw the ball if you want to win in this league
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The innocent Rudolph holds back his teammates to try to protect Garrett ...






Even Rudolph is saying he was in the wrong and will accept League punishment: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ma...ght/ar-BBX3nmR
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Re: 2019 NFL Regular Season Thread -- Week 12

Originally Posted by dvd-4-life View Post
Vikings all-time leading scorer kicker Fred Cox (age 80) has passed away. He also invented the nerf football.

Vikings only have 6 players with retired numbers and he isn't one of them. That's surprising.
NFL Films did a feature on him recently

https://publish.twitter.com/?query=h...0&widget=Tweet
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Originally Posted by Abob Teff View Post
The innocent Rudolph holds back his teammates to try to protect Garrett ...
The lunatic Garrett did just pick him up off the ground by his face after all.
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There is a long article over at the ESPN website about the Chargers and Rams playing in Los Angeles and their fan bases and the new stadium.
It's a great read. Very interesting to know that the Steinbrenner family and Jerry Jones construction companies are in charge of the build. Original price tag was set at $2 billion. Now it has ballooned to $5 billion. Talk about the rich getting even filthier.
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Originally Posted by dvd-4-life View Post
Vikings all-time leading scorer kicker Fred Cox (age 80) has passed away. He also invented the nerf football.

Vikings only have 6 players with retired numbers and he isn't one of them. That's surprising.
Curious to know how much he made from the nerf? That was a great tool to teach me before I could handle the pig. I'm guessing that he made more on the nerf than he did in his playing career.
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It's a great read. Very interesting to know that the Steinbrenner family and Jerry Jones construction companies are in charge of the build. Original price tag was set at $2 billion. Now it has ballooned to $5 billion. Talk about the rich getting even filthier.
Excellent read. I would love to see this whole L.A. thing blow up in their faces.
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Even at 7-4, I don't think Houston is all that good. And they have essentially mortgaged their future to go all in now -- this seems to be their peak. Maybe they can win a wild card round game, but I can't see any further than that for them.
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That was a great ESPN article about the LA situation.
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Excellent read. I would love to see this whole L.A. thing blow up in their faces.
Oh, it's going to erupt worse than Mount St. Helens. When you can't sell out 25,000 seats in Carson, you have serious problems. Angelenos love Vegas and they are going to be flooding Raiders games over Chargers games. The Rams might have a shot at being relevant but the over 50 crowd feels betrayed and the millennial crowd tends to care less about going to games.
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Re: 2019 NFL Regular Season Thread -- Week 12

So if the Chargers fail in LA, what happens next?
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So if the Chargers fail in LA, what happens next?

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That article makes a good point - $500M towards a new stadium in SD made a ton more sense than a $500M relocation fee to a city you are decidedly unwelcome in.
The whole situation bums me out. Wish the SD voters would have approved some sort of stadium deal but I certainly understand why they chose the "Fuck You Dean" option instead.
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Screw England... throw a team up in Canada.
We took 2 World Series and an NBA championship... let us take a Super Bowl win as well.
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The NFL made a huge mistake letting the Chargers move to LA, when it's clear as a bell no one wants them there in the first place. I am thankful the Raiders found a new home in Las Vegas, and aren't apart of this on going fight for fans in LA. Here's the link to the article for those who haven't read it yet. It's a great read.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...ts-los-angeles
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Re: 2019 NFL Regular Season Thread -- Week 12

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So if the Chargers fail in LA, what happens next?
I really don't think there is an out. There is so much invested in now at this point.

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That article makes a good point - $500M towards a new stadium in SD made a ton more sense than a $500M relocation fee to a city you are decidedly unwelcome in.
The whole situation bums me out. Wish the SD voters would have approved some sort of stadium deal but I certainly understand why they chose the "Fuck You Dean" option instead.
And I think the NFL gives $200M for a new stadium. So you're talking $700M.

But I also think that it's really tough to get any city in CA to pony up anything at this point to contribute. Can't say I blame them. I think all of the newer sports venues in CA have been built with private funds.

Which is a good thing. But still feel bad for SD. And STL - Kronke is a douche. But it's his money and I hope it's an epic fail.
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The Chargers could move to NY the largest US city with no team


Don't know if there is a lot of interest and demand but it would be cool if Portland had the Chargers.
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I think it's a little weird that the Raiders still are drawing huge enthusiastic crowds in Oakland. I guess it's because they're doing well. Still aren't folks in the Bay area pissed? I remember being furious at Georgia Frontiere when she moved the Rams to St. Louis, and we didn't even get a year of advanced notice. And Spanos was basically getting daily death threats in SD their last year. Why are Raiders fans acting like everything is great? Denial or just really loyal to the team?

I should also note that Mark Davis has been very good with the local LV community, donating to local charities, showing up and sitting with the fans in the good seats (as opposed to the suites) at Golden Knights and LV Aces games.
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Raiders' fans are some of the most loyal fans of any team in any sport. In my lifetime, I have seen them as the Oakland Raiders, the Los Angeles Raiders and back to Oakland and never missed a beat. It's going to be sad to see the team leave Oakland again, (for the final time this time) but if any team deserves a new stadium, it's them.
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Screw England... throw a team up in Canada.
We took 2 World Series and an NBA championship... let us take a Super Bowl win as well.
Toronto has been a strong option for some time.
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Toronto has been a strong option for some time.
Not unless they build a stadium. Skydome isn't big enough.
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Re: 2019 NFL Regular Season Thread -- Week 12

Originally Posted by Coral View Post
So if the Chargers fail in LA, what happens next?
At a certain point the league has to look at forcing Spanos out.

By NFL Owner standards he's dirt poor (he and his family), and he can't handle the financial responsibilities that NFL owners are expected to handle. He's going to pay $1 per year in rent on a multi billion dollar stadium that he didn't have to pay a dime for.

If the Chargers continue to be a dumpster fire of an organization the league will have no choice but to force a sale.

Then a new owner with real money can move the team back to San Diego where there are still fans of the team (but who hate Spanos with a passion). Chargers games regularly sold out in San Diego (70k in attendance) when the team was good (and before it was clear Spanos was going to move the team unless the city paid about 75% of the stadium costs). A new owner bringing the team back and building his own stadium would be treated like a hero in San Diego. Support would be through the roof.

I don't think any other city would react like that to getting the Chargers.

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