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Old 06-01-04, 02:53 PM
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Of course, that didn't stop Jason Jennings from dominating the Padres last night.

And has anyone seen Jennings pitch? Talk about a fat ass! A few more cheeseburgers and this guy will be giving CC Sabathia a run for his money. The difference is that Sabathia is just fat everywhere, but Jennings is only fat from the belt down, like a Weeble. Talk about an easy target for heckling last night! (well, until it became clear that the Padres were making him look like a Cy Young candidate... )
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The 10 worst starting pitchers in baseball so far (based on VORP):

NAME            TEAM    IP   H/9 BB/9 SO/9 HR/9   ERA   VORP
Matt Kinney      MIL  36.7  11.0  4.2  6.1  1.0  7.36   -8.3
Ryan Vogelsong   PIT  47.0  11.3  5.4  7.9  1.9  7.47   -9.7
Casey Daigle     ARI  49.0  11.6  5.0  3.1  1.7  7.16  -10.5
Josh Fogg        PIT  45.7  10.2  3.9  5.5  1.8  6.90  -10.5
Jason Jennings   COL  61.7  11.2  4.8  6.1  1.8  7.15  -11.6
Darren Oliver    FLO  41.7  12.5  2.6  5.0  2.6  7.78  -12.1
Kurt Ainsworth   BAL  30.7  11.4  5.9  5.9  1.8  9.68  -12.8
Derek Lowe       BOS  51.3  13.0  4.4  3.7  0.5  6.84  -13.5
Scott Elarton    COL  41.3  12.4  4.4  5.0  1.7  9.80  -19.2
Brian Anderson   KCA  60.7  14.8  3.1  3.4  2.1  7.71  -21.0
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Old 06-01-04, 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by DarkElf
Of course, that didn't stop Jason Jennings from dominating the Padres last night.

And has anyone seen Jennings pitch? Talk about a fat ass! A few more cheeseburgers and this guy will be giving CC Sabathia a run for his money. The difference is that Sabathia is just fat everywhere, but Jennings is only fat from the belt down, like a Weeble. Talk about an easy target for heckling last night! (well, until it became clear that the Padres were making him look like a Cy Young candidate... )
Jennings is one pear-shaped son of a bitch. I noticed that a couple of years ago.
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I was checking out Chris Carpenter's stats. Unusual stuff going on with him.

In the month of May, he pitched 34 innings, gave up 25 hits, 6 walks, and 10 runs (all earned). Solid!

But he gave up 8 HRs. So of the 10 runs he allowed, one was driven in on a base hit, 2 were on a 2-run HR, and the other 7 were solo shots.

A few more strikeouts and we're talking a Kurt Schilling line from his days in Arizona.

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or lowe's line, from his last start
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Old 06-01-04, 03:54 PM
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Nice work, Scorch. I've been trying to figure out a good Dusty crack ever since he said prior to the season that he'd be starting the departed Kenny Lofton in the lead-off hole.

This house stuff is so high stress it's not funny, especially if we get it and I lose EI for the rest of the season. One thing is for sure, though...it has demolished any hopes of going to the All-Star game this year.
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Old 06-01-04, 04:06 PM
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Originally posted by DarkElf
And has anyone seen Jennings pitch? Talk about a fat ass! A few more cheeseburgers and this guy will be giving CC Sabathia a run for his money.
What, no mention of Livan Hernandez, the original "cheeseburger"? Burger joints in SF have been closing by the dozen.
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Originally posted by DarkElf
I was checking out Chris Carpenter's stats. Unusual stuff going on with him.

In the month of May, he pitched 34 innings, gave up 25 hits, 6 walks, and 10 runs (all earned). Solid!

But he gave up 8 HRs. So of the 10 runs he allowed, one was driven in on a base hit, 2 were on a 2-run HR, and the other 7 were solo shots.

A few more strikeouts and we're talking a Kurt Schilling line from his days in Arizona.
He has definitely been the most pleasant surprise of the season. If only he could get a little more run support and have a bullpen that doesn't blow a lead that he hands them. He should really have a couple more wins the way he has been pitching.
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Old 06-01-04, 06:39 PM
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So, less than a week away from the baseball draft, the Padres have the #1 pick and are strongly leaning toward.....

... RHP Jered Weaver? Nope.

... RHP Jeff Niemann? Nope.

Try SS Stephen Drew.

Is Drew a fragile baby like his older brother? I've heard reports that he doesn't like to play every game, or play if he doesn't feel like he's 100%. He's also a Junior, so I wonder what kind of risk there is with him stiffing the Padres and going back to college if he doesn't get the money that he (and agent Scott Boras ) wants.

Of course, Weaver is also a Junior and has Boras as well.

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I'd stay as far away from a Drew as possible, especially if he is a Boras client.
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Try SS Stephen Drew.

Is Drew a fragile baby like his older brother?
Supposedly, yes. "Same approach to the game" is what I think I've read. The Padres would have to be some stupid ************s to waste the #1 pick on a Drew.
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I have this weird feeling that what the Padres might be thinking is making a run at Beltran, and trading away Barfield. Barfield is supposed to be the replacement for Loretta in 2 years, and drafting Drew would make him the replacement.

But I found out that Drew has missed time due to injury all 3 years in college. Baseball America published a column less than 2 weeks ago talking about his problem with "desire" to play.

Kevin Towers is talking about how signing pitchers is more risky than position players because of injury issues, but it sure sounds like Drew is a chip off the old block.
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I love the smoke and mirrors the Giants are using to win 10 in a row.

Setting all the fans up for the fall again.
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You guys check out the All Star balloting results so far? MLB.COM released the current numbers, and the Astros are CLEARLY stuffing the ballot box.

C: Ausmus = #2
1B: Bagwell = #2 (BARELY behind Pujols)
2B: Kent = #1
SS: Everett = #1
3B: Ensberg = #3 (ahead of Lowell and Beltre)
OF: Biggio = #4; Berkman = #5; Hidalgo = #7

Give me a break.

Of course, the Red Sox aren't much better. Pokey Reese #2?
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Of course, the Red Sox aren't much better. Pokey Reese #2?


And Nomar is leading for shortstops.

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I have this weird feeling that what the Padres might be thinking is making a run at Beltran, and trading away Barfield. Barfield is supposed to be the replacement for Loretta in 2 years, and drafting Drew would make him the replacement.
There's a rumor of Beltran for J. Williams and FRod. I don't like it, not for Williams and a 3/4 season rental.
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Heh, Ensberg #3.

Is it even legal in the US to have an all-star at 3B who hasn't even hit a home run?
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You guys check out the All Star balloting results so far? MLB.COM released the current numbers, and the Astros are CLEARLY stuffing the ballot box.
I only voted once, and I voted my conscience. But seeing this, I'd better vote a few more times. I gotta improve Ensberg's sorry showing.
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And Nomar is leading for shortstops.
Looks like my Ortiz write-ins were for shit.
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I just voted on mlb.com:

First Base: F. Thomas, CWS; A. Pujols, STL
Second Base: A. Soriano, TEX; M. Loretta, SD
Third Base: H. Blalock, TEX; S. Rolen, STL
Shortstop: M. Young, TEX; E. Renteria, STL
Catcher: I. Rodriguez, DET; M. Piazza, NYM
Outfielder: V. Guerrero, ANA; A. Dunn, CIN
Outfielder: M. Ordonez, CWS; B. Bonds, SF
Outfielder: M. Ramirez, BOS; B. Giles, SD

I would have voted for Kent, but screw the Astros!

I have to laugh at Soriano leading the voting. Considering all the other stiffs at 2B to pick from, he BETTER win the voting!
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Bags hits a first inning 2-run windblown HR. 'Stros better put the runs up early and often, as Duckworth is on the mound tonight.
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Unbelievable. The Astros' relievers have gotten out of two bases loaded, no-out situations tonight. That is good stuff.
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Unbelievable. The Astros' relievers have gotten out of two bases loaded, no-out situations tonight. That is good stuff.
Thats amazing.


The Yankees are beating Baltimore 5-3.
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The Yankees are beating Baltimore 5-3.
Ponson is an *******.
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And Weaver gives up a lead off home run to the Brewers. I miss Kevin Brown.
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