Movies you’re surprised got bad reviews? (Public, critics)
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Movies you’re surprised got bad reviews? (Public, critics)
I know many swear off these aggregate sites like metacritic or rotten tomatoes, but I’ll admit I’m very conscious of how I spend my money and frankly if it gets bad reviews, then I can wait. I’m a slave to it, what can I say.
But, some movies you love to pieces and surprised it took such drubbing from critics and public alike.
For me: since I’m watching it, I gotta say when I saw RT score of 59% for Taken I was taken aback. It was a genuinely taut thriller that was highly successful. Spawned two sucky sequels and turned a fine actor into an action star at 60 or whatever. But, it was a damn good, highly entertaining movie.
But, some movies you love to pieces and surprised it took such drubbing from critics and public alike.
For me: since I’m watching it, I gotta say when I saw RT score of 59% for Taken I was taken aback. It was a genuinely taut thriller that was highly successful. Spawned two sucky sequels and turned a fine actor into an action star at 60 or whatever. But, it was a damn good, highly entertaining movie.
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https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/superman_man_of_steel
Man of Steel
56% on Rotten Tomatoes
I admit, the 1st time I saw it 10 years ago, I wasn't in love with it. But, I think I watched it from the dated standpoint that Superman should still be that dorky boy scout with the big glasses from the 1970s. Now that I own it on 4K disc and have seen several more times, I really think it's a good and different take on the Superman story. I know there are a lot who don't like it and that's fine. Film is subjective. But, I thought it was well done and Cavill really shined in this. I am surprised the critics score on this was so low. Kevin Costner was a good Jonathan Kent and there was a really great and emotional scene between him and the young actor who played Clark. I recall this board really trashed it 10 years ago.
Man of Steel
56% on Rotten Tomatoes
I admit, the 1st time I saw it 10 years ago, I wasn't in love with it. But, I think I watched it from the dated standpoint that Superman should still be that dorky boy scout with the big glasses from the 1970s. Now that I own it on 4K disc and have seen several more times, I really think it's a good and different take on the Superman story. I know there are a lot who don't like it and that's fine. Film is subjective. But, I thought it was well done and Cavill really shined in this. I am surprised the critics score on this was so low. Kevin Costner was a good Jonathan Kent and there was a really great and emotional scene between him and the young actor who played Clark. I recall this board really trashed it 10 years ago.
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https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/superman_man_of_steel
Man of Steel
56% on Rotten Tomatoes
I admit, the 1st time I saw it 10 years ago, I wasn't in love with it. But, I think I watched it from the dated standpoint that Superman should still be that dorky boy scout with the big glasses from the 1970s. Now that I own it on 4K disc and have seen several more times, I really think it's a good and different take on the Superman story. I know there are a lot who don't like it and that's fine. Film is subjective. But, I thought it was well done and Cavill really shined in this. I am surprised the critics score on this was so low. Kevin Costner was a good Jonathan Kent and there was a really great and emotional scene between him and the young actor who played Clark. I recall this board really trashed it 10 years ago.
Man of Steel
56% on Rotten Tomatoes
I admit, the 1st time I saw it 10 years ago, I wasn't in love with it. But, I think I watched it from the dated standpoint that Superman should still be that dorky boy scout with the big glasses from the 1970s. Now that I own it on 4K disc and have seen several more times, I really think it's a good and different take on the Superman story. I know there are a lot who don't like it and that's fine. Film is subjective. But, I thought it was well done and Cavill really shined in this. I am surprised the critics score on this was so low. Kevin Costner was a good Jonathan Kent and there was a really great and emotional scene between him and the young actor who played Clark. I recall this board really trashed it 10 years ago.
Interestingly, I was surprised that Batman vs. Superman only got 29% on RottenTomatoes. Granted, the theatrical version left much to be desired, and I think somewhere in the neighborhood of 56-63% would have been more understandable, but not the slamming it received. Maybe it's just because I went in with low expectations due to seeing the score beforehand, but I found the movie as a whole, especially the last 35 minutes or so, to be quite entertaining.
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“Weird Science” has a 56% on Apple TV (doesn’t show the score on RT). That is a goddamn travesty.
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I always find it funny when fantastic movies get a handful of bad reviews on Rotten Tomatoes, and all the other critics certify them fresh. Makes them wonder if they’re good at their job 
Example - The Dark Knight. There are some “rotten tomato” ratings, but I mostly focus on the ones from 2008, when the movie was released. The reviews after 2008 I imagine are from people who want to be “different” with their critique, when they already know it’s a highly rated movie. Anyways, just imagine you’re a movie critic who initially reviewed it in 2008 and said it was a bad movie. And then you see every other movie critic, public opinion, and Academy Awards disagree with you haha

Example - The Dark Knight. There are some “rotten tomato” ratings, but I mostly focus on the ones from 2008, when the movie was released. The reviews after 2008 I imagine are from people who want to be “different” with their critique, when they already know it’s a highly rated movie. Anyways, just imagine you’re a movie critic who initially reviewed it in 2008 and said it was a bad movie. And then you see every other movie critic, public opinion, and Academy Awards disagree with you haha
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Scarface (1983)
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I was surprised to find out that History of the World: Part I was originally trashed when it was first released.
Although both are flawed, I very much enjoyed MoS (although the Nolan-esque timeline was not as well implemented as it could have been) and BVS (the latter improving exponentially with the Ultimate Cut, even if it doesn't erase all it's flaws). Superman was still at his core a boyscout, but the more cynical world around him made him very rough around the edges (as in the killing of Zod, his callous intervention in a foreign country, etc). As I recall, before the suits at WB gunned the gas pedal, the goal Snyder, Goyer, and Nolan had was for Clark to gradually mature into the iconic Superman we know and love. That's why the first movie in the DCEU was called a Man of Steel instead of Superman.
In any case, there are a lot of great moments in both films. I loved Costner and Lane as Ma and Pa Kent. Cavill fit this iteration of Superman perfectly. I could have watched even more of the extended Krypton prologue. Affleck and Irons have great chemistry as Bruce and Alfred. And it was great seeing the Trinity together once Gal Gadot finally suited up as Wonder Woman.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/superman_man_of_steel
Man of Steel
56% on Rotten Tomatoes
I admit, the 1st time I saw it 10 years ago, I wasn't in love with it. But, I think I watched it from the dated standpoint that Superman should still be that dorky boy scout with the big glasses from the 1970s. Now that I own it on 4K disc and have seen several more times, I really think it's a good and different take on the Superman story. I know there are a lot who don't like it and that's fine. Film is subjective. But, I thought it was well done and Cavill really shined in this. I am surprised the critics score on this was so low. Kevin Costner was a good Jonathan Kent and there was a really great and emotional scene between him and the young actor who played Clark. I recall this board really trashed it 10 years ago.
Man of Steel
56% on Rotten Tomatoes
I admit, the 1st time I saw it 10 years ago, I wasn't in love with it. But, I think I watched it from the dated standpoint that Superman should still be that dorky boy scout with the big glasses from the 1970s. Now that I own it on 4K disc and have seen several more times, I really think it's a good and different take on the Superman story. I know there are a lot who don't like it and that's fine. Film is subjective. But, I thought it was well done and Cavill really shined in this. I am surprised the critics score on this was so low. Kevin Costner was a good Jonathan Kent and there was a really great and emotional scene between him and the young actor who played Clark. I recall this board really trashed it 10 years ago.
Interestingly, I was surprised that Batman vs. Superman only got 29% on RottenTomatoes. Granted, the theatrical version left much to be desired, and I think somewhere in the neighborhood of 56-63% would have been more understandable, but not the slamming it received. Maybe it's just because I went in with low expectations due to seeing the score beforehand, but I found the movie as a whole, especially the last 35 minutes or so, to be quite entertaining.
In any case, there are a lot of great moments in both films. I loved Costner and Lane as Ma and Pa Kent. Cavill fit this iteration of Superman perfectly. I could have watched even more of the extended Krypton prologue. Affleck and Irons have great chemistry as Bruce and Alfred. And it was great seeing the Trinity together once Gal Gadot finally suited up as Wonder Woman.
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Gemini Man, seemed like everyone here hated it. I loved it.
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I really shouldn't be surprised that Freddy vs. Jason sits at 42% on RT and 37% on Metacritic. Horror movies tend to take a beating from professional critics, but I think I speak for a lot of genre fans when I say this franchise mash-up totally rocks. It understands that people paid money to see Freddy Krueger and Jason Voorhees beat the snot out of each other, and it delivered along with some pretty cool kills and that iconic scene in the cornfield.
The story probably makes as much sense as any Friday the 13th or Nightmare on Elm Street movie, but it gets that anyone going to see it will probably be a fan one or both franchises already. Knowing who the audience was going to be was key since it could just cut to the chase and not bog down the plot with drawn-out recaps of the histories of the two antagonists. As far as I'm concerned, FvJ is the gold standard for IP crossovers.
The story probably makes as much sense as any Friday the 13th or Nightmare on Elm Street movie, but it gets that anyone going to see it will probably be a fan one or both franchises already. Knowing who the audience was going to be was key since it could just cut to the chase and not bog down the plot with drawn-out recaps of the histories of the two antagonists. As far as I'm concerned, FvJ is the gold standard for IP crossovers.
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^I'm still hopeful to see a documentary about the MANY scripts that were made for that movie!
Back to topic, The Homesman was one of the more standout films of the decade to me. But it appears that I'm the only one who loved it.
Back to topic, The Homesman was one of the more standout films of the decade to me. But it appears that I'm the only one who loved it.
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I have NEVER not seen or gone to the movies base on someone rating/bad reviews. If the trailer does nothing for me. There is a good chance I won't see it.
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I don’t really give a shit about official reviewers. I don’t even think i could name a current one except for that Grace broad that everyone mentions all the time.
I’m still interested in comments and thoughts here or from friends, but it usually doesn’t sway me much unless I’m really on the fence.
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Give its popularity, I've always been a little surprised at how middling the reviews for Love, Actually were. And how negative the response to The Mighty Ducks was.
It's 56% on rottentomatoes, 69% audience score.
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Me after clicking on this thread and seeing people defend Zack Snyder movies.
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Weird - I looked it up and got a blank score, but it’s there now. And the audience score is ridiculous too - that movie is a classic. It’s probably my most quoted movie ever. My wife and I say “he don’t even have his license, Lisa!” and “I did my toes” on a regular basis.
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One of my favorite movies growing up, Far and Away, is a wonderfully beautiful American frontier epic that sits at a paltry 50% Rotten score.
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I was shocked Eternals got a drubbing. It was something different for the MCU and had a greater emphasis on theme over spectacle.
Reverse it for No Way Home.
Top Gun: Maverick was similar but opposite. Pretty fun movie. I'm surprised though how it's been held up as the Messiah of cinema from all corners.
Also Howl's Moving Castle: Possibly my least favorite Miyazaki film, but it's revered above much of his other work. Too much of a plot and character retread from Spirited Away and Princess Mononoke for me.
Reverse it for No Way Home.
Top Gun: Maverick was similar but opposite. Pretty fun movie. I'm surprised though how it's been held up as the Messiah of cinema from all corners.
Also Howl's Moving Castle: Possibly my least favorite Miyazaki film, but it's revered above much of his other work. Too much of a plot and character retread from Spirited Away and Princess Mononoke for me.
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I've always heard Howl's in the vein of "lesser Miyazaki", the final act was kind of a mess from what I recall and the critics weren't exactly over the moon with it during its release window.
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I admit I've never read critic reviews of it (or any at all prior to watching it a few years ago), but social media seems to praise it plenty. I'd imagine it's because those audiences skew younger. I don't see a lot of talk about The Wind Rises, for example.
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Yeah, I'd agree the younger crowd that "grew up with it" probably appreciates it more than an old timer ("Geriatric Millennial") like myself. But after Mononoke and Spirited Away it was a disappointment.
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that was Hilary Swank and Tommy Lee Jones, right? I can’t remember, but I think I loved it.
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Last Action Hero - 38% TOMATOMETER, 47% Audience Score
I think it's a win, I love this movie... but I didn't see it as a spoof of action films, but more of a contrast between movie magic fantasy and every day reality. I would still love to see a sequel (not necessarily with Arnold, but more about following what happened and who has the other part of the ticket?) Though I'm sure many agree with the ratings.
I thought it was a bold move for Arnold to make a film like that. I think it's heads and tails better than Eraser or 6th Day which have similar rankings.
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Last Action Hero has most of the right ingredients for a big-budget action spoof, but its scattershot tone and uneven structure only add up to a confused, chaotic mess.
Last Action Hero has most of the right ingredients for a big-budget action spoof, but its scattershot tone and uneven structure only add up to a confused, chaotic mess.
I thought it was a bold move for Arnold to make a film like that. I think it's heads and tails better than Eraser or 6th Day which have similar rankings.
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