Seriously?

That's kind of disturbing actually.

Interesting how this has turned into another Smallville vs. Superman Returns fans thread.

178 million Total in USA, only 22 million to go.

Another 6 weeks, I think it will hit 200, but just barely.

It will be close to 180 million by Friday, about 184 million by the end of the weekend. No more big hits coming out, so in about 6 weeks, it should have $200 million.

World wide gross over about $200 million.

DVD sales will be "Up Up and Away", so I think they will make one more.

Remember 40 million of the 260 had nothing to do with the current movie.

Next movie should cost less.

The biggest problem with Superman now is the fact that it's been losing screens left and right. Warners will continue to drop screens over the next few weeks, which could cause a slight problem crossing the $200 million mark. But there's no more event type pictures coming out, so that will help.

I think the matter here is that really, it's not goin to be a failure, once you factor in DVD sales. The problem is, when people think of a Superman film, they want to imagine that it would compare to the likes of Spiderman box office wise and it simply didn't, so we are quick to call it a box office failure.

I think we would always be willing to jump in and call something a failure when compared to other films or if it's not pulling in huge numbers. I mean, look at what happened with King Kong. We really bashed that as a failure and it did fairly decent.

Superman's Boxoffice Disappointment is enough as a failure dont add another SUPER FAILURE Serenity (who was budgeted for $45 million and the "world" not "domestic" earnings is only $39million.. $6million less)

How much did the toys, tie-ins, and other products related to the movie make?

Although a large part of Serenity's failure was the minute marketing campaign that Universal gave it. Heck, I think direct-to-video sequels get about as much (if not more) advertising than Serenity got.

As for Smallville, a movie based on that is best left to TV and with the show's hit or hit-the-fan track record, I'd be rather worried if one were ever made. And, although Welling looks a heck of a lot like the way Supes is drawn in the comics, he doesn't have the acting chops to carry such a weighty role. He has shown improvement over the course of the show but nowhere near enough to convince me he can carry a whole feature. The real reason to watch a Smallville-based movie is to see Michael Rosenbaum and John Glover. Those are the real heavyweights of the show. (And yes, Allison Mack, Erica Durance and Annette Otoole are a must as eye candy. )

The 2 Luthors are the only reason I watch the show. The whole Clark/Lana relationship thing gets extremely old extremely fast. I was sick of it after 5 episodes.

The biggest problem with Superman now is....

that it was a shltty movie?

Superman Returns was a difficult movie for me to accept with the absence of the late Christopher Reeve portraying the leading role. The euphoria, and charisma that Mr. Reeve had developed in Superman is phenomenal, and irreplaceable without his presence.

Dissapointing box office? Given it's budget and buzz, absolutely. A complete disaster? Of course not.

Chalk it up to whatever you want to (movie quality, marketing, release date, etc) but at the end of it's run all that's going to matter is the bottom line.

Personally it was my fav of the summer and I hope WB greenlights another.

Very true. I recently saw the Reeve movies, and he is just so amazing as Superman.

Off subject, Routh, according to a gossip column on Howard Stern, recently got into a motorcycle accident and almost broke his neck. That Superman curse is alive!!!

Whatever the case, I just hate to think of anyone having anything to do with SMALLVILLE becoming involved with any Superman movie.

Word!

He pulled a Big Ben, eh?



I do know he is branching out into voice acting work, as he'll voice an enemy called 'The Everywhere Man' in WB's, 'The Batman'.

As for the person who mentioned Reeve, yeah, I think that hurt it also. To the general public, no matter how good Routh was, he couldn't replace Reeve. You can chalk it up to whatever, but Reeve really took that role and made it his own. Is it campy now? Sure. Does it matter? Not really, because you can still believe in his performance.

With that said , I do think Routh done a respectable job. He seemed to be the only one who was truly enjoying himself, but you could tell he was being held back, he was constantly trying to channel Reeve's performance. You can chalk that up to the vague history, just as Luthor's character was poorly written compared to the modern Luthor. Singer's choice to make Returns a vague sequel hurt the film more than anything. In one sense, I can understand not wanting to try and outdo Donner's orgin story, but on the other hand, tying Returns into the original two left way to many plotholes and killed potenial characters like Luthor. Say what you want about Smallville, but that show has NAILED the Luthor family as far as live action goes.

With all that said, I am curious to see what happens with Routh's career now. We all know he can do a damn good Chris Reeve imitation, but let's see how he handles other roles. A brightside for Returns being a slight box office dissapointment is Routh won't be typecasted as Superman, like Reeve was. Infact, everyone who has seen it I know just refers to him as "that guy who played Superman".

It deeply saddens me that this film didn't do better at the box-office. And what makes it worse, is that the truly awful "POTCMC" is cleaning up. I loved every second of "SR". Went back to see it a second time at the IMAX. Which was great. I'm telling everyone I know to go see it. And I'll be the first to buy it on DVD.

Also, I think Routh nailed this performance. Christopher Reeve would be proud. Or he should be

All of you Superman fans are in denial...this was a HUGE disappointment...it was predicted to make 100 million opening weekend and it did barely half that! The reason being: the movie was very lackluster, Routh sucked, Bosworth sucked, and the kid sucked...Spacey was cool but he couldnt save the movie...compared to Batman Begins, Superman Returns was inferior in every way

The quality of the movie rarely has much to do with opening weekend, unless critics just flat out slam it - which they didn't. (And that too rarely has an effect).

That said, Batman Begins is a better movie, but Superman Returns is, thus far, the most entertaining movie of 2006. And while I agree it's disappointing to see the inferior Dead Man's Chest do so much better, I can't say it wasn't expected.

i figured they just wanted to break even with the box office

superman's money will be in toys, tshirts, etc... merchandising is huge for super hero movies..

and of course, the dvd sales will make them back plenty

Show us where the movie was predicted to do 100M opening weekend. And for your information, it pulled in 52.5 it's first Friday-Sunday. Bringing it's five day total to 84.5M. And 108K by 7/4 (it's first week).

Oh, I know. I knew "Pirates" would do better business. I just didn't expect it to do THIS much. I also didn't expect to hate it. I loved the first one. I do have to disagree with you though about "Batman Begins". While I enjoyed it a great deal, I didn't think it was a great movie. It definitely revived the franchise (thank God). And has wet my chops for the next one. For me, "Superman Returns" was such a classy film. Clearly Singer is a fan of the first two films. And I, for one, am grateful he didn't stray from it's tone and feel. I think "SR" will fit comfortably on my shelf next to those two.

You should get down to your multi-plex and check out CLERKS II.