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Groucho 12-12-18 01:44 PM

Official Trump Presidency Thread, Part 3
 
Part 1 here: https://forum.dvdtalk.com/religion-p...whos-next.html

Part 2 here: https://forum.dvdtalk.com/religion-p...-part-2-a.html

jpcamb 12-12-18 01:48 PM

Re: Official Trump Presidency Thread, Part 3
 
what is the over under he makes it to this thread part 4 before impeachment proceedings?

Sdallnct 12-12-18 01:50 PM

Re: Official Trump Presidency Thread, Part 3
 

Originally Posted by jpcamb (Post 13460984)
what is the over under he makes it to this thread part 4 before impeachment proceedings?

Hummm....I may want part of that bet...things are getting fun...

Sdallnct 12-12-18 01:59 PM

Re: Official Trump Presidency Thread, Part 3
 
Trump is signing a executive order to revitalize towns? Oh I’m sure that will make all this go away. Wait is it “Infrastructure Week” TM

stingermck 12-12-18 02:01 PM

Re: Official Trump Presidency Thread, Part 3
 
Im going to post this again, since we are on part 3. Great way to start.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The president is now implicated in two separate criminal conspiracies. Both his lawyer, who coordinated the work on his behalf, and the third party who made payments in one of the two cases admit that the work was done to influence the election. <br><br>Bad day for <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@realDonaldTrump</a></p>&mdash; Bradley P. Moss (@BradMossEsq) <a href="https://twitter.com/BradMossEsq/status/1072924502177312768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 12, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Sdallnct 12-12-18 02:13 PM

Re: Official Trump Presidency Thread, Part 3
 

Originally Posted by stingermck (Post 13460992)
Im going to post this again, since we are on part 3. Great way to start.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The president is now implicated in two separate criminal conspiracies. Both his lawyer, who coordinated the work on his behalf, and the third party who made payments in one of the two cases admit that the work was done to influence the election. <br><br>Bad day for <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@realDonaldTrump</a></p>&mdash; Bradley P. Moss (@BradMossEsq) <a href="https://twitter.com/BradMossEsq/status/1072924502177312768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 12, 2018</a></blockquote>
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And I firmly believe this is the low hanging fruit. “Some” have asked why Mueller hasn’t charged Trump (again, that’s not how this works). But it would be like putting a case against bank robbers and charging the with illigal parking and jay walking.

AND Mueller is not done with his report. Congress (and others) might dismiss this one issue. Even if he “could” be impeached for these illigal payments would he be? But if in Muellers summery there are 3, 4, 5 or more “possibly impeachable offenses” can the “law and order” party ignore them all?

Draven 12-12-18 02:15 PM

Re: Official Trump Presidency Thread, Part 3
 

Originally Posted by Sdallnct (Post 13461003)
Even if he “could” be impeached for these illigal payments would he be? But if in Muellers summers there are 3, 4, 5 or more “possibly impeachable offenses” can the “law and order” party ignore them all?

Yes, they absolutely can. Especially if the economy is still good and Trump's base continues to support him.

VinVega 12-12-18 02:27 PM

Re: Official Trump Presidency Thread, Part 3
 
Damn, we're onto thread 3? We broke the internet. -eek-

VinVega 12-12-18 02:29 PM

Re: Official Trump Presidency Thread, Part 3
 

Originally Posted by stingermck (Post 13460992)
Im going to post this again, since we are on part 3. Great way to start.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The president is now implicated in two separate criminal conspiracies. Both his lawyer, who coordinated the work on his behalf, and the third party who made payments in one of the two cases admit that the work was done to influence the election. <br><br>Bad day for <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@realDonaldTrump</a></p>&mdash; Bradley P. Moss (@BradMossEsq) <a href="https://twitter.com/BradMossEsq/status/1072924502177312768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 12, 2018</a></blockquote>
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I think the Congressional Democrats are taking a wait and see approach to these acts because there are probably a lot worse coming down the pike once the Mueller Report comes out.

DVD Polizei 12-12-18 02:29 PM

Re: Official Trump Presidency Thread, Part 3
 

Originally Posted by Sdallnct (Post 13461003)
And I firmly believe this is the low hanging fruit. “Some” have asked why Mueller hasn’t charged Trump (again, that’s not how this works). But it would be like putting a case against bank robbers and charging the with illigal parking and jay walking.

AND Mueller is not done with his report. Congress (and others) might dismiss this one issue. Even if he “could” be impeached for these illigal payments would he be? But if in Muellers summery there are 3, 4, 5 or more “possibly impeachable offenses” can the “law and order” party ignore them all?

Mueller will never be done with his report unless he gets hit by a bus, or resigns. And I don't see any of those things happening any time soon. His mission was clear. To keep the drama alive. To go as slow as possible.

Of course the GOP won't ignore the offenses. What makes you think they are now? To think otherwise would be going down a road of silly conspiracy theories. Republicans have been more than willing to cater to Mueller. Fact Check: Mueller is still special counsel.

Suppose impeachment really happens. Trump will probably be President for his entire term, and considering how long Mueller is taking, it may only be a few months AFTER he would be impeached.

And here I thought the point of all this stuff was to get Trump...out of office. It's doing just the opposite. It's keeping him in office.

I guess if Democrats are going for the in-name only, bedpost notch effect like Republicans did with Bill Clinton...ok. But just like with Bill Clinton...nobody gave a shit, but what many do remember...is it was a stupid and long process that was a taxpayer fraud, and shouldn't have happened in the first place for what was revealed. Even I knew that much being a teenager watching the impeachment hearings.

From Russia Collusion...to...porn star payouts.

Talk about moving goal posts.

Kurt D 12-12-18 02:47 PM

Re: Official Trump Presidency Thread, Part 3
 
I am so glad we have you around to tell us who thinks what, why things are done the way they are done, what Mueller is thinking right now, and other smartly ... things.

Anyway, joke's on Trump. If he'd aired out the porn star story instead of burying it, he would have won by a wider margin.

eXcentris 12-12-18 02:58 PM

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The "Mueller is taking too long" nonsense has been debunked a thousand times. 2 years for this type of investigation isn't "too long", it's not even average.

Psi 12-12-18 03:00 PM

Re: Official Trump Presidency Thread, Part 3
 

Originally Posted by Kurt D (Post 13461028)
I am so glad we have you around to tell us who thinks what, why things are done the way they are done, what Mueller is thinking right now, and other smartly ... things.

:lol:

I listen to NPR for news then come here for the analysis. Or anal something.

cultshock 12-12-18 03:01 PM

Re: Official Trump Presidency Thread, Part 3
 

Originally Posted by eXcentris
he "Mueller is taking too long" nonsense has been debunked a thousand times. 2 years for this type of investigation isn't "too long", it's not even average.

Yeah, we've all seen the graphs comparing the length (so far) of this investigation to investigations involving past presidents but some people still don't get it. -ohbfrank-

Paff 12-12-18 03:10 PM

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When you rush an investigation you get....Brett Kavanaugh

slop101 12-12-18 03:19 PM

Re: Official Trump Presidency Thread, Part 3
 
Even if he resigns tomorrow, shit like this that damages the country will be his lasting legacy...


Appropriate, coming from an unqualified president.
If it turns out that he absolutely colluded and is more than guilty of everything under the sun, would it be possible to overturn every single one of his appointments?
They should all be expelled if he's indicted, otherwise, his stink will be on America for decades.

slop101 12-12-18 03:33 PM

Re: Official Trump Presidency Thread, Part 3
 
Looks like National Enquirer is in it too, and about to sing as well...


Seriously, almost everyone with a connection to trump is turning out to be guilty of some shit - how has he been so lucky to keep getting away with this shit?

cungar 12-12-18 03:48 PM

Re: Official Trump Presidency Thread, Part 3
 
Looks like Trump no longer has a Pecker

It's pretty obvious the US Attorney's Office made sure the wording "payment in concert with a candidate’s presidential campaign." was there for a reason. Reeling in the big fish.

sracer 12-12-18 03:59 PM

Re: Official Trump Presidency Thread, Part 3
 

Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 13461078)
Looks like National Enquirer is in it too, and about to sing as well...

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/sta...26576533229569

Seriously, almost everyone with a connection to trump is turning out to be guilty of some shit - how has he been so lucky to keep getting away with this shit?

it's not luck. It is the way the system works. So many get away with so much that they don't consider the possibility of getting caught. The odds are so low that it doesn't show up on their radar.

My irritation is growing over all of these plea deals and non-prosecution agreements. I'm beginning to think that this isn't about justice but about making Trump uncomfortable.

brayzie 12-12-18 04:04 PM

Re: Official Trump Presidency Thread, Part 3
 

Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 13461078)
Looks like National Enquirer is in it too, and about to sing as well...

Seriously, almost everyone with a connection to trump is turning out to be guilty of some shit - how has he been so lucky to keep getting away with this shit?

I know that the National Enquirer is a gossip rag devoted to lies about celebrities. But seeing the steady stream of pro-Trump propaganda was almost surreal.

"Trump teams up with Putin to take out the REAL enemy: China, Iran, and N. Korea!"

"Trump takes charge! Success in just 36 days!"

"Trump MUST build wall!"

cungar 12-12-18 04:04 PM

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Poor guy. Maybe he has a reason to feel uncomfortable. A large number of his employees turned out to be felons. Any prosecutor worth his salt starts down the ladder and moves up.

cungar 12-12-18 04:10 PM

Re: Official Trump Presidency Thread, Part 3
 

Originally Posted by brayzie (Post 13461103)
I know that the National Enquirer is a gossip rag devoted to lies about celebrities. But seeing the steady stream of pro-Trump propaganda was almost surreal.

"Trump teams up with Putin to take out the REAL enemy: China, Iran, and N. Korea!"

"Trump takes charge! Success in just 36 days!"

"Trump MUST build wall!"

Not to mention the Malia in rehab and Bill Clinton down to 117 lbs kind of crap. Is there a huge cross section of National Enquirer readers and the #MAGA crowd? I guess gullibility and lack of critical thinking would be the common factor.


https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/PC...7c9bb7a82325fb

BDB 12-12-18 04:17 PM

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Seems about right - change the story, but the COS story is a nothing burger

brayzie 12-12-18 04:27 PM

Re: Official Trump Presidency Thread, Part 3
 

Originally Posted by cungar (Post 13461108)
Not to mention the Malia in rehab and Bill Clinton down to 117 lbs kind of crap.

Wow. They have to check all the boxes, huh?


Is there a huge cross section of National Enquirer readers and the #MAGA crowd? I guess gullibility and lack of critical thinking would be the common factor.
At the time, I thought the National Enquirer was getting paid by Trump, and taking a hit in sales in order to help him.
I mean, for the longest time they were focused on celebrity gossip, with the occasional political sex scandal. Hollywood stories, and sex, that sells.

But Trump being the main headline every issue, with some headlines just saying, "He's doing a great job!"
Seems pretty dull.

I would like to know if their sales maintained, went up, or if they went on a decline.

story 12-12-18 04:47 PM

Re: Official Trump Presidency Thread, Part 3
 
A new thread in December? Just like last year! An early Christmas present!

In before the lock!


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