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Official Trump Presidency Thread, Part 3

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Regardless of the debate, I do feel sorry for those who are not getting a paycheck today.
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This is what Why So Blu? was trying to post.

Howard Stern says Trump's border wall won't solve immigration problems: It's just something 'morons can get behind':


While Howard Stern “can’t find anything more boring” than having a political discussion, he broke his rule Wednesday to discuss President Trump’s immigration and border security address that was broadcast the night before.

The men go way back, and you may recall their conversations about “piece of ass” Ivanka Trump on Stern’s show, so the self-proclaimed King of All Media had many notes on Trump’s primetime performance: Skip the teleprompter, work on the “heavy breathing” and stop with the spray tan. (“I never saw him this orange or with those rings around his eyes.”) But while Stern said he expected Trump’s speech to be “full of s***,” it topped his expectations.

After saying “there’s no crisis” at the U.S.-Mexico border, Stern went on to talk about Trump’s proposed border wall — which is behind the ongoing partial government shutdown — saying it won’t solve any of the country’s immigration problems. He brushed it off as being just a campaign tactic that “morons can get behind.”

“The wall’s a problem because it’s a waste of money, even Donald knows that,” Stern said. “You gotta know Donald a bit to understand what’s going on here. The wall’s a simplistic answer to our problems with immigration. It’s something that, you know, morons can get behind because they’re like, ‘Oh, yeah, if you build a wall no one can get over it.’ But it’s not that simple.”

Stern said Trump’s demand of $5.7 billion in funding for the wall — a wall he originally said Mexico would pay for — wouldn’t even cover the cost of the proposed wall.

“You’re talking about building a massive wall across this country on the southern border,” Stern continued. “It’s a tremendous amount of property and a tremendous amount of area to cover. You’re not going to get a whole wall for $5 billion. If you really want a wall, it’s probably going to cost you some trillions of dollars.”

He said Trump isn’t being “straight up” with Americans. Stern said he should have come on and said, “‘F*** this, I’m not going to bulls*** you guys. I want $20 billion.”

While Stern admitted that he’s “all about keeping f***ing illegal aliens out because it’s f***ing not fair — it’s not fair to people who apply legally,” he added, “At the same point, you can’t be hypocritical and be hiring illegal aliens,” referring to undocumented immigrants reportedly working at Trump’s golf resort in New Jersey.

Stern also talked about how drugs are coming “into our ports” versus just from over the southern border, and he pointed out that Trump’s shutdown over not getting his wall is making security in the country even weaker.

“Right now we don’t even have air traffic controllers being paid,” Stern pointed out. “Talk about a lack of security. If I’m a terrorist, I’m coming in now. I bet you they’re flooding in while this government shutdown is going on.”

“Even Donald’s not into this wall. It’s just he’s embarrassed because he can’t get it, and Rush Limbaugh shamed him,” he said, adding, “The whole concept of the wall got him elected. A lot of people could wrap their brain around it. But the wall ain’t going to solve s***. And it’s going to cost a fortune. Come on, it’s nonsense. It’s just nonsense.”

Stern said that Trump doesn’t consult him anymore, though. “I got it figured out, but nobody talks to me. Donald doesn’t call me anymore because I didn’t vote for him.”

And lest you think Stern was only critical of Trump, he also also criticized House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer’s on-camera rebuttal to Trump’s address. Stern said they looked like “vampires” onscreen and “need media training.” He called their use of a teleprompter “a drag,” saying, “Just talk from the heart.” He said he hopes they watch their performance back and are “mortified” over it.
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And Democrats have no problems with children being put at risk like they are in that photo.

And once the child falls on the US side...they blame law enforcement, not the parents (or whatever they really are).
Can you give an example of this or are you just talking out of your ass?
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Old 01-11-19, 03:02 PM
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I deleted it. Fucking text did not format properly. I did not have the patience to try and fix it. I think it's the new forum format that fucks it up and turns it into a wall of text. No pun intended.

You and your WALLS...your big beautiful walls
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Who are the seven pieces of shit who voted "nay"? Hey, they're still getting their paychecks, so fuck everyone else.
I was interested in this as well. https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4...rnment-workers
But seven lawmakers — all House Republicans — opposed the measure. Those "no" votes came from Reps. Justin Amash (Mich.), Andy Biggs (Ariz.), Paul Gosar (Ariz.), Glen Grothman (Wis.), Thomas Massie (Ky.), Chip Roy (Texas) and Ted Yoho (Fla.).
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Calling out trump on his bullshit...


And he's not going to ever see anything on it because trump is too fucking lazy to have done any goddamn work like that. He's just gonna yell "gimme my wall!!!" and expect it to happen like a petulant child without ever considering the whys and wherefores that such a massive undertaking would require. I swear, he's in his own fucking fantasyland!
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Old 01-11-19, 03:12 PM
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How is the gofundme for the wall coming along? Haven't heard much from it in a bit

Has the guy just taken all the money? Like his previous fund raising efforts?
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Old 01-11-19, 03:18 PM
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How is the gofundme for the wall coming along? Haven't heard much from it in a bit

Has the guy just taken all the money? Like his previous fund raising efforts?
Up to 20 million!

https://www.gofundme.com/TheTrumpWall

He's gonna be rich!
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The debate above is exactly the kind of tortuous discussion that's a total waste of time. As soon as we bring up the wall, then come the questions of what kind, how tall, how thick, solid or with gaps, where, what cost, when to build, how to build, why and why there, etc.

Those are questions that should have been studied and answered by wall proponents before they proposed. Instead, what we have is, give me $5.7B or I'll shut the government down for 3 weeks, and months and years if I have to. Isn't that completely backwards? And to have the nerve of asking wall opponents why they shouldn't get money to build something they still haven't defined exactly.

No company, and no government should run like that.

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Well since no one here is fooled why do we keep talking about it? Maybe go find someone who believes this bullshitvand talk to them
I talk with people about it every single day. People who are for it and truly believe that the border is an unprotected madhouse and others that are clearly against it. We keep talking about it here because the majority of posters see through the nonsense of a false crisis and a grown adult baby that perpetuates this falsehood, while a few others still don't understand why we don't agree with it. They simply want to believe that it is because Trump wants to do it as to why we oppose it, and not the idea itself. I think most of the people that post on here don't simply go with what they're told.
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I challenge anyone who has a fence around their home, to educate me on why they have it. Is it just for show? Or is it meant to keep people out. And according to your own political ideology...you should be tearing them down, or you are racist.
I have a fence to keep my dog in the yard. My fence, like most fences around homes, has a door that can be opened from the outside.
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Old 01-11-19, 03:24 PM
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Up to 20 million!

https://www.gofundme.com/TheTrumpWall

He's gonna be rich!

Kolfage’s fundraising campaign was initially designed to help finance that construction with private contributions. He insisted that he had been in contact with a number of federal officials and members of Congress devising ways to funnel the massive amounts of money raised on GoFundMe to the federal treasury.

It appears that that plan went awry.

“The federal government won’t be able to accept our donations anytime soon,” Kolfage said in an update on the GoFundMe page on Friday.



Now Kolfage, a prolific operator of conspiracy theory Facebook pages, has recruited a team of prominent figures in President Donald Trump’s orbit to run a new 501(c)(4) nonprofit, named We Fund The Wall, to do some wall construction of its own. The new group’s board, Kolfage announced on Friday, includes Erik Prince, the founder of infamous military contract Blackwater; David Clarke, the former scandal-plagued sheriff of Milwaukee County; Fox News contributor Sara Carter; Tom Tancredo, an immigration hardliner and former Colorado congressman; and former Kansas Secretary of State and voter fraud crusader Kris Kobach
Fantastic bunch of folks
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I have a fence to keep my dog in the yard. My fence, like most fences around homes, has a door that can be opened from the outside.

Does your fence also keep out dogs or other animals out you don't want in it as well??? I would say most do.
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I used to remind people of this frequently around here, but I stopped.

There is already a wall between the US and Mexico. It’s been continually under construction for 40-50 years. No one ever said it was racist to have this wall until lately.

It’s strange.

That's a fence. This is a wall :

Is that the legacy that we want for the United States? Is that how we'd like to be thought of around the world?

Was Reagan dead-wrong for stating this :


Were you terrified for the security of Western Europe after it came down in 1989?
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Clearly meant to keep people out...
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Does your fence also keep out dogs or other animals out you don't want in it as well??? I would say most do.
I wish I had a fence because I have two dogs. Before I had those dogs, I never thought about putting up a fence. So no, I don't really care what comes into my yard. The only reason I'd want a fence (or is it a wall? Trump isn't clear) is to keep my dogs in.
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Jesus, I think this topic has truly jumped the shark. Shall we talk about which fence/wall material is most welcoming next?
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Does your fence also keep out dogs or other animals out you don't want in it as well??? I would say most do.
By nature, yes sure. But DVDP "challenged" us to tell him why we have a fence. I have a fence to keep my dog in. If I didn't have a dog to keep in, I wouldn't have a fence. There isn't anything I want to "keep out".
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I wish I had a fence because I have two dogs. Before I had those dogs, I never thought about putting up a fence. So no, I don't really care what comes into my yard. The only reason I'd want a fence (or is it a wall? Trump isn't clear) is to keep my dogs in.
Just like Don Jr. Comparing animals to people. Sickening. Absolutely sickening.
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Have wall will travel.
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That's a fence. This is a wall :

Is that the legacy that we want for the United States? Is that how we'd like to be thought of around the world?

Was Reagan dead-wrong for stating this :


Were you terrified for the security of Western Europe after it came down in 1989?
Wow. Apples, meet oranges.

Call it what you like, it’s already there. It already resembles Berlin. It’s been there your whole life. Why so much passion lately?

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I wish I had a fence because I have two dogs. Before I had those dogs, I never thought about putting up a fence. So no, I don't really care what comes into my yard. The only reason I'd want a fence (or is it a wall? Trump isn't clear) is to keep my dogs in.
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By nature, yes sure. But DVDP "challenged" us to tell him why we have a fence. I have a fence to keep my dog in. If I didn't have a dog to keep in, I wouldn't have a fence. There isn't anything I want to "keep out".
So it is OK for other dogs to shit in your yard and dig it up possibly destroy your property? Get in fights with your dogs and possibly kill or maim one? OK. Or worse possibly a child.

We just had a dog attack a kid in their yard outside playing in their yard with no fence.

They now have a fence. To keep dogs out.
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Regardless of the debate, I do feel sorry for those who are not getting a paycheck today.

Missed this before. Agree.
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I believe a "paperwork" error should take place that withholds the Congressional paychecks from these 7 until the shutdown ends ... maybe longer.
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So it is OK for other dogs to shit in your yard and dig it up possibly destroy your property? Get in fights with your dogs and possibly kill or maim one? OK.
Boy you're really stretching it here. Before I had a fence, I didn't have any dogs come into my yard. If a dog did come into my yard and caused a problem, I'd speak to the owner. If the owner didn't cooperate, I would call animal control. I wouldn't put up a fence to keep the dog out. It costs a lot of money to put up a fence, it's completely absurd for me to put up a fence solely to keep someone else's dog out when there are far easier and cheaper alternatives to keep this hypothetical dog out.
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