View Poll Results: Who's going to win the election (2020)?
Biden/Harris




88
71.54%
Trump/Pence




27
21.95%
Other (please specify...)




4
3.25%
What are you high?




4
3.25%
Voters: 123. You may not vote on this poll
New! Improved! The 2020 Presidential Election Thread: It's Never Over! Edition
#1
DVD Talk Legend
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Vichy America
Posts: 13,533
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
New! Improved! The 2020 Presidential Election Thread: It's Never Over! Edition
Since the 2016 race is effectively done, it's time to start looking forward!
With Clinton approaching 73 in 2020, will she be in any shape to run again? Will she face a neo-Sandernista challenger from the Left?
Will the Republican Party even be functional four years from now?
Cruz and Pence have both been trying to position themselves for the nomination, but Cruz blew it by shifting his support to Trump five seconds before Trump imploded, while Pence will forever be tainted as Trump's running mate, and that's not even touching on his desire to electrocute gay children.
So who does that leave for the Republicans to field as a reasonable candidate? Ben Sasse? Larry Hogan? Or will the Trumpkins still have control of the GOP and insist upon doubling down on fascism?
With Clinton approaching 73 in 2020, will she be in any shape to run again? Will she face a neo-Sandernista challenger from the Left?
Will the Republican Party even be functional four years from now?
Cruz and Pence have both been trying to position themselves for the nomination, but Cruz blew it by shifting his support to Trump five seconds before Trump imploded, while Pence will forever be tainted as Trump's running mate, and that's not even touching on his desire to electrocute gay children.
So who does that leave for the Republicans to field as a reasonable candidate? Ben Sasse? Larry Hogan? Or will the Trumpkins still have control of the GOP and insist upon doubling down on fascism?
#2
Admin
Re: New! Improved! The 2020 Presidential Election Thread: It's Never Over! Edition
I'm betting on Clinton being a one term Prez. Several Repubs could have beaten her this year. I don't think the party will make anotber Trump mistake in 2020.
#3
DVD Talk Hero
Re: New! Improved! The 2020 Presidential Election Thread: It's Never Over! Edition
If the country's in worse shape by the next election, Clinton is out. If the country is in measurably better shape, she stays. If it's in the same shape as now, it's a toss up, depending on who the GOP run.
#5
DVD Talk Hero
Re: New! Improved! The 2020 Presidential Election Thread: It's Never Over! Edition
I don't see the Republican party changing yet. After the Romney defeat, they did a study that recommended expanding their appeal from the angry white male demographic. Nothing changed in 2016. The party grassroots will declare that Trump betrayed them, and go for another bite at the same apple.
Being President is a hard job in your 50s. We've seen how rapidly it ages people. It must be a killer in your 70s. I think Clinton will be worn out in four years and will leave an open seat.
The campaign in 2020 will be Kaine vs Cruz. If not Cruz, some other pious hypocrite supported by Ralph Reed and Falwell Jr.
One thing that will come out of the 2016 election is that we won't see another billionaire businessman running for president for a while. Everything embarrassing thing that Trump has said over 40 years has been dug up and thrown in his face. People who plan to be President someday know that happens and they watch everything they say from college onward. Most businessmen haven't been that careful, and they know they can't stand up to that level of scrutiny.
Being President is a hard job in your 50s. We've seen how rapidly it ages people. It must be a killer in your 70s. I think Clinton will be worn out in four years and will leave an open seat.
The campaign in 2020 will be Kaine vs Cruz. If not Cruz, some other pious hypocrite supported by Ralph Reed and Falwell Jr.
One thing that will come out of the 2016 election is that we won't see another billionaire businessman running for president for a while. Everything embarrassing thing that Trump has said over 40 years has been dug up and thrown in his face. People who plan to be President someday know that happens and they watch everything they say from college onward. Most businessmen haven't been that careful, and they know they can't stand up to that level of scrutiny.
#6
DVD Talk Legend
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 11,923
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: New! Improved! The 2020 Presidential Election Thread: It's Never Over! Edition
It all depends on the economy. If the economy's good, President Kaine will probably win another term. If the economy's bad, say hello to President al-Baghdadi.
#7
DVD Talk Hero
Re: New! Improved! The 2020 Presidential Election Thread: It's Never Over! Edition

Of course Hillary will run for reelection, barring any huge catastrophes. Once she has a four year track record as President, assuming the country is reasonably on track, none of this "OMG! Email! Foundation!" bullshit will matter. She'll be judged as all incumbents are -- is the country headed in the right direction?
#8
DVD Talk Hero
Re: New! Improved! The 2020 Presidential Election Thread: It's Never Over! Edition
Yes, I'm being silly. Last time I said that I expected to see Jeb Bush on the ballot. That's how good a prophet I am.
But I still think the Republicans will dig themselves deeper in four years. They'll look at the good results from the mid-term election and double down again.
But I still think the Republicans will dig themselves deeper in four years. They'll look at the good results from the mid-term election and double down again.
#9
DVD Talk Hero
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Home of 2013 NFL champion Seahawks
Posts: 44,543
Received 119 Likes
on
100 Posts
Re: New! Improved! The 2020 Presidential Election Thread: It's Never Over! Edition
The Republicans would be better served to find someone fresh who doesn't have the stink of this election on him/her.
#10
DVD Talk Legend
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Cygnus
Posts: 12,524
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: New! Improved! The 2020 Presidential Election Thread: It's Never Over! Edition
Hopefully, unlike in 2016, both sides will nominate somebody their constitutes can actually stand behind and positively support rather than play childish, "but they did it too!" and "but they are worse! games.
#11
Banned by request
Re: New! Improved! The 2020 Presidential Election Thread: It's Never Over! Edition
What, no one is predicting that Johnson getting 15% of the vote his year will allow the libertarian party into the debates in 2020, at which point the unwashed masses will rise as one to band together and vote in a president who can enact a free market utopia?
#12
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
Re: New! Improved! The 2020 Presidential Election Thread: It's Never Over! Edition
I am not sure by 2020, Gary Johnson will remember who Gary Johnson is.
#13
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: New! Improved! The 2020 Presidential Election Thread: It's Never Over! Edition
No doubt we won't nominate someone as bombastic as Trump, but the Trump-wing will still push good candidates to take a hard line on Immigration the same way the Christian Conservatives put a litmus test on every Candidate being Pro-life.
If we lose next month, this will be 6 of the last 7 popular votes we have lost, and its because of these wedge issues that may play well in the Republican primary, push off too many moderates in the general election.
If we lose next month, this will be 6 of the last 7 popular votes we have lost, and its because of these wedge issues that may play well in the Republican primary, push off too many moderates in the general election.
#14
DVD Talk Hero
Re: New! Improved! The 2020 Presidential Election Thread: It's Never Over! Edition
That's one litmus test I'd like to see gone. Trump showed that he could get the support of the religious right even if he's indifferent about abortion, tomcats around, and doesn't go to any church. I hope that future candidates seize that crack and pry it open. If the religious right supported Trump, they'll support anyone with an (R).
#15
Admin
Re: New! Improved! The 2020 Presidential Election Thread: It's Never Over! Edition
The Libertarian party had a real chance to siphon voters away from both the Dems and the Repubs this year, but Johnson is such a flake on TV, he's just not worth it. If they could get a real candidate they could make some headway. People are really blah about both parties I think.
#16
DVD Talk Hero
Re: New! Improved! The 2020 Presidential Election Thread: It's Never Over! Edition
The Libertarian party had a real chance to siphon voters away from both the Dems and the Repubs this year, but Johnson is such a flake on TV, he's just not worth it. If they could get a real candidate they could make some headway. People are really blah about both parties I think.
#17
DVD Talk Hero
Re: New! Improved! The 2020 Presidential Election Thread: It's Never Over! Edition
The Libertarian party had a real chance to siphon voters away from both the Dems and the Repubs this year, but Johnson is such a flake on TV, he's just not worth it. If they could get a real candidate they could make some headway. People are really blah about both parties I think.
#18
Banned
Re: New! Improved! The 2020 Presidential Election Thread: It's Never Over! Edition
No doubt we won't nominate someone as bombastic as Trump, but the Trump-wing will still push good candidates to take a hard line on Immigration the same way the Christian Conservatives put a litmus test on every Candidate being Pro-life.
If we lose next month, this will be 6 of the last 7 popular votes we have lost, and its because of these wedge issues that may play well in the Republican primary, push off too many moderates in the general election.
If we lose next month, this will be 6 of the last 7 popular votes we have lost, and its because of these wedge issues that may play well in the Republican primary, push off too many moderates in the general election.

#19
#20
DVD Talk Hero
Re: New! Improved! The 2020 Presidential Election Thread: It's Never Over! Edition
#21
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: New! Improved! The 2020 Presidential Election Thread: It's Never Over! Edition
As a Democrat I wish John Kasich had won the Republican nomination as I would have voted for him for the President. Trump is just too hot-headed and I'm real not a fan of Hillary either.
#22
Re: New! Improved! The 2020 Presidential Election Thread: It's Never Over! Edition
The reason there will be no change is because the people who stand to lose from change have all the power, and the people that stand to gain from change have none of the power. - Niccolò Machiavelli
#23
Banned
Re: New! Improved! The 2020 Presidential Election Thread: It's Never Over! Edition
Next year will be the 500th Anniversary of the Protestant Reformation begun by Martin Luther. He & other reformers were certainly tilting at a monolithic, entrenched presence.
Our own Founding Fathers, who face either apathy from colonists or direct opposition from loyalists, might have been discouraged from facing the powerful British Empire. But they persevered.
#24
DVD Talk Legend
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Conducting miss-aisle drills and listening to their rock n roll
Posts: 19,972
Received 160 Likes
on
120 Posts
Re: New! Improved! The 2020 Presidential Election Thread: It's Never Over! Edition
Doesn't every major movement begin with someone tilting at windmills?
Next year will be the 500th Anniversary of the Protestant Reformation begun by Martin Luther. He & other reformers were certainly tilting at a monolithic, entrenched presence.
Our own Founding Fathers, who face either apathy from colonists or direct opposition from loyalists, might have been discouraged from facing the powerful British Empire. But they persevered.
Next year will be the 500th Anniversary of the Protestant Reformation begun by Martin Luther. He & other reformers were certainly tilting at a monolithic, entrenched presence.
Our own Founding Fathers, who face either apathy from colonists or direct opposition from loyalists, might have been discouraged from facing the powerful British Empire. But they persevered.
#25
DVD Talk Legend
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 11,923
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: New! Improved! The 2020 Presidential Election Thread: It's Never Over! Edition
This is most likely a fake quote.