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Former House Speaker Dennis Hastert indicted

The indictment is here:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.document...indictment.pdf

In brief, Hastert is being accused of structuring -- withdrawing money from banks in a way intended to avoid reporting requirements. He withdrew $1.7 million this way, which was then paid to an unidentified individual, who Hastert knew from his pre-politics days when he was a high school teacher and wrestling coach in downstate Illinois. It's being reported that Hastert was basically being blackmailed by a former student with whine he had a gay affair when the student was underage, though that's not in the indictment.
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Re: Former House Speaker Dennis Hastert indicted

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It's being reported that Hastert was basically being blackmailed by a former student with whine
Whyyyyyyy won't you give me an aaaaaaa!!
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Whyyyyyyy won't you give me an aaaaaaa!!
Fuck you, autocorrect.

That was supposed to be "with whom."
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Re: Former House Speaker Dennis Hastert indicted

Gawker has some (alleged) gory details:

There have also been dubious whisperings in the past that Hastert himself was a member of a closeted gay cadre on Capitol Hill. “Hastert’s penchant to receive anal sex is well-known to our sources in DC’s gay community,” reported professional conspiracy theorist and Infowars friend Wayne Madsen, as part of a long, lightly sourced, and somewhat mean-spirited 2006 frisking of Hastert’s private life.
Never would have pegged Denny as a power bottom.*

*pun intended
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Re: Former House Speaker Dennis Hastert indicted

Originally Posted by JasonF View Post
It's being reported that Hastert was basically being blackmailed by a former student with whine he had a gay affair when the student was underage, though that's not in the indictment.
Just how vocally anti-gay was this guy?
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Waits for the video of John Boehner and Mitch McConnell in the 69 position.
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Re: Former House Speaker Dennis Hastert indicted

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man View Post
Gawker has some (alleged) gory details:

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There have also been dubious whisperings in the past that Hastert himself was a member of a closeted gay cadre on Capitol Hill. “Hastert’s penchant to receive anal sex is well-known to our sources in DC’s gay community,....”
Well, that's a switch. Usually politicians are the ones giving that to the rest of us.

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Has Fox News ran a graphic saying "Dennis Hastert (D) - Illinois" yet?
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Waiting for Mike Huckabee to say Hastert is a good Christian who asked God for forgiveness and prayed the gay away.
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Waits for the video of John Boehner and Mitch McConnell in the 69 position.
You have weird taste but whatever floats your boat.
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What a sad day for America. I would like to believe that as proud patriotic Americans we would only elect tops.
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If someone tells me they are a Republican, now I just assume they are gay.
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These is also a video of Hastert on C-SPAN, taking a call from a viewer named "Bruce" from his hometown. Bruce asks Hastert if he remembers him, Hastert says yes, then the caller laughs for a few seconds and then hangs up.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...014-CSPAN-call
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Re: Former House Speaker Dennis Hastert indicted

Originally Posted by TheMadMonk View Post
These is also a video of Hastert on C-SPAN, taking a call from a viewer named "Bruce" from his hometown. Bruce asks Hastert if he remembers him, Hastert says yes, then the caller laughs for a few seconds and then hangs up.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...014-CSPAN-call
That just might have been the most lucid and cogent call they've ever aired on C-SPAN.
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Waits for the video of John Boehner and Mitch McConnell in the 69 position.
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Re: Former House Speaker Dennis Hastert indicted

If it was legally obtained money (which it sounds like he earned it legit) How can the government say what you can and can't do with your own damn money?!
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If it was legally obtained money (which it sounds like he earned it legit) How can the government say what you can and can't do with your own damn money?!
Generally, they can't (though they can prevent you from spending your money on drugs, or terrorist activities, among other things). But he's not been indicted for spending his money on blackmail, at least not directly. He's accused of structuring, which is when you withdraw money in ways intended to evade bank reporting requirements. Those requirements are designed to identify people withdrawing money for illegal purposes (primarily drugs and/or terrorism). He's also accused of lying to law enforcement about the purpose of his withdrawals.

Those are things where they might look the other way for a blackmail victim, but when the blackmail victim is hiding child molestation, maybe law enforcement wasn't inclined to cut him any slack?
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Generally, they can't (though they can prevent you from spending your money on drugs, or terrorist activities, among other things). But he's not been indicted for spending his money on blackmail, at least not directly. He's accused of structuring, which is when you withdraw money in ways intended to evade bank reporting requirements. Those requirements are designed to identify people withdrawing money for illegal purposes (primarily drugs and/or terrorism). He's also accused of lying to law enforcement about the purpose of his withdrawals.

Those are things where they might look the other way for a blackmail victim, but when the blackmail victim is hiding child molestation, maybe law enforcement wasn't inclined to cut him any slack?
Welcome to the Patriot Act which Hastert was instrumental in passing. Anyway, Former AG Eric Holder limited civil asset forfeitures so that is one reason we haven't heard that they are seizing the money that Hastert gave to the extortionist ... yet.
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Re: Former House Speaker Dennis Hastert indicted

Structuring was illegal long before the Patriot Act thanks to the War on Drugs. I think it dates back to the early 70s. But the Patriot Act did expand the scope of the crime.
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I was always under the impression that structuring only involved depositing money, not withdrawing it, where Uncle Sam is more concerned about tax evasion.
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First Tops and Bottoms, now Structuring. Enough with the gay slang. Move this thread to Adult Talk
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Oye. I haven't been structured since 100 pounds ago.
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I don't see why anyone who even suspects they could be the target of an investigation would ever talk to the FBI. They can charge you for merely denying doing whatever they think you did and they don't have to even prove the underlying accusation.
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Why would anyone who had sex with an underage person of the same sex would then later go on and run for a republican office is beyond me. Do they not realize they are going to be found out eventually? Especially if they are one of those "homosexuality is a sin" types.

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