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State Initiatives - 2010

What are some of your states most intense initiatives, the one that seems to divide the state squarely down the middle. Washington always has a couple, These initiatives are on local commericals pretty much non-stop:

I-1100, I-1105:

I-1100: The proposed measure would close state liquor stores and authorize sale, distribution, and importation by private parties

I-1105: The proposed measure would close all state liquor stores and license private parties to sell or distribute spirits. Additionally it would revise laws concerning regulation, taxation and government revenues

According to local surveys/polls, I-1100 appears that it will pass

I-1053: proposes requiring a two-thirds majority vote of the Washington State Legislature, or a statewide popular vote, for any tax increases

I-1053 is in response to the suspension of I-960 by the government

This also appears to that it will pass according to polls.

I think the most contentious Initiative is I-1098, which would create a state income tax for the richest 1.2% of Washingtonians (those that make 200k single, 400k double). A recent poll by King 5 found that a majority of people polled believed that eventually after 2 years, the law would be changed again to include to tax more people.

This is at a statistical dead heat in terms of polls.
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http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.ph...allot_measures

I haven't heard much (well, anything, really) about any of them.
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Washington always seems to generate tons of firestorm with Tim Eyman and his initiatives.
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There's a few tax-related ones here.
http://www.sbe.virginia.gov/cms/Elec...mendments.html
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Massachusetts has reducing the state income tax rate from 6.25% to 3.%, and eliminating sales tax on alcohol.

We wants cheaper whiskey, and to get the dang revenuers off our backs, consarn it!
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Colorado always has a few doozies, because we have some whackos and an easy process. But I haven't looked at them yet.
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Massachusetts has reducing the state income tax rate from 6.25% to 3.%, and eliminating sales tax on alcohol.

We wants cheaper whiskey, and to get the dang revenuers off our backs, consarn it!
Don't a lot of people in MA cross over to NH to buy their liquor?

I do that (from VA to MD).
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Don't a lot of people in MA cross over to NH to buy their liquor?

I do that (from VA to MD).

Yep, that's the big argument in favor.
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I know many in Washington go to Oregon because lack of sales tax
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I just noticed that many states don't even have a initiative option
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California wants to allow the sale of marijuana to gay married chickens that carpool.
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Indiana:
SHALL PROPERTY TAXES BE LIMITED FOR ALL CLASSES OF PROPERTY by amending the Constitution of the State of Indiana to do the following: (1) Limit a taxpayer's annual property tax bill to the following percentages of gross assessed value: (A) 1% for an owner-occupied primary residence (homestead); (B) 2% for residential property, other than an owner-occupied primary residence, including apartments; (C) 2% for agricultural land; (D) 3% for other real property; and (E) 3% for personal property. The above percentages exclude any property taxes imposed after being approved by the voters in a referendum. (2) Specify that the General Assembly may grant a property tax exemption in the form of a deduction or credit and exempt a mobile home used as a primary residence to the same extent as real property?
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Massachusetts has reducing the state income tax rate from 6.25% to 3.%, and eliminating sales tax on alcohol.

We wants cheaper whiskey, and to get the dang revenuers off our backs, consarn it!
The thing about alcohol in Mass was there was a already a tax on alcohol so we were paying a tax on a tax. This fucking state sucks.
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I haven't heard much (well, anything, really) about any of them.
I'm surprised you haven't heard anything about Issue 2, since it affects your location, and the location of the resulting jobs. I seem to remember voting for it in the primaries becuase I like the idea of repurposing an "abandoned" commercial location, but I don't particularly care where the casino is located.
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I know many in Washington go to Oregon because lack of sales tax
A lot of Oregonians retire in Washinton because of their income tax. It works out okay for us.

I don't like the income tax one. They are absolutely correct that it will open the door for an income tax.

Also, I show this from an article
Under Initiative 1098, the income tax would have two brackets. The first is 5 percent of any income above $200,000, or $400,000 for couples. The second bracket is 9 percent on income above $500,000 for individuals or $1 million for couples.
And there are big problems with this. The constitution in WA doesn't allow it and that has been tested in the past.

A graduated income tax was enacted by initiative in 1932, passing with about 70 percent of the vote. But it was thrown out by the state Supreme Court, which pointed to the state constitution's call for uniform taxation on property.

Voters have defeated subsequent attempts to amend the constitution for a state income tax, most recently in 1973.
But this isn't an amendment to the constitution, it is just an initiative, and the WA constitution says you can't do it. Were it to pass, I don't see how it could stand.
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But this isn't an amendment to the constitution, it is just an initiative, and the WA constitution says you can't do it. Were it to pass, I don't see how it could stand.

Yeah, If it does pass (which I am not sure it will), I think it might just get thrown out, Also isn't there something where you can't just tax a certain portion of the population across the board? I swear I saw that somewhere.
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I'm surprised you haven't heard anything about Issue 2, since it affects your location, and the location of the resulting jobs. I seem to remember voting for it in the primaries becuase I like the idea of repurposing an "abandoned" commercial location, but I don't particularly care where the casino is located.
Does Ohio have casino gambling? If they don't, I have to imagine that West PA (and maybe WV) are drawing a lot of Ohioans to their new casinos that have everything (save sports gambling).
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Here in Illinois, we have a ballot measure over whether to implement recalls for the governor. Blago -- the gift that keeps on giving.
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Does Ohio have casino gambling?
We do now, it's in the constitution!
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I'm surprised you haven't heard anything about Issue 2, since it affects your location, and the location of the resulting jobs. I seem to remember voting for it in the primaries becuase I like the idea of repurposing an "abandoned" commercial location, but I don't particularly care where the casino is located.
Issue 2 was voted on in May. I'm familiar with it. Very familiar.
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Does Ohio have casino gambling? If they don't, I have to imagine that West PA (and maybe WV) are drawing a lot of Ohioans to their new casinos that have everything (save sports gambling).
As wendersfan indicated, we will be getting four casinos thanks to a constitutional amendment that was recently passed by voters. Indiana's riverboat casinos have been a huge draw in my area.
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Washington always seems to generate tons of firestorm with Tim Eyman and his initiatives.

I vote them down with a smile on my face every time.

Not really any hot button issues this time around... last I heard it looked like none of them were looking likely to pass. I think Murray will pull out a win over Rossi.
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I vote them down with a smile on my face every time.

Not really any hot button issues this time around... last I heard it looked like none of them were looking likely to pass. I think Murray will pull out a win over Rossi.
I think Rossi wins as many will consolation prize him for being so close on the Gov. race.

I also think the days of state controlled liquor is over. The 2/3 majority or statewide vote for tax increases will also pass, I think. Good year to have that on the ballot.
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ND has an interesting one, voting on whether to start up a legacy fund with oil and natural gas revenue. I'm sure a lot of states would love to be in that situation.
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I vote them down with a smile on my face every time.

Not really any hot button issues this time around... last I heard it looked like none of them were looking likely to pass. I think Murray will pull out a win over Rossi.
Really? Just based on the fact of the number of No on I-1100 and Yes on I-9083 iniatives you would think those would be hot button itesm.
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