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Old 03-01-08, 09:55 AM
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Obama's statements in Texas to black parents

In Chicago it was front page news about how Obama got on black parents in Texas. I surprised nobody has started a thread on this and have not seen much coverage on it in the news. He gave was like a Bill Cosby speech about how black parents have not been doing a good job on raising kids. Feeding them Popeye's chicken for breakfest was one of the comments. I'm not kidding I would have posted the comments if I knew how. Anybody hear about this?
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Old 03-01-08, 10:00 AM
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Well good for him.

Here is a report about it:

http://www.suntimes.com/news/sweet/8...weet29.article

Obama tells Blacks: Shape up
LYNN SWEET | Crowd cheers advice to turn off TV, skip Popeyes for breakfast

February 29, 2008
BY LYNN SWEET Sun-Times Columnist

FORT WORTH, Texas -- On the campaign trail, Democratic front-runner Sen. Barack Obama talks about how he would use the bully pulpit if president, and he offered a demonstration Thursday when he drew wild cheers as he told a mostly African-American crowd that parents need to shape up, turn off the TV, help their kids with their homework and stop letting them grow fat eating Popeyes chicken for breakfast.

"It's not good enough for you to say to your child, 'Do good in school,' and then when that child comes home, you got the TV set on, you got the radio on, you don't check their homework, there is not a book in the house, you've got the video game playing," said Obama while in Beaumont, in southeast Texas.

"So turn off the TV set, put the video game away. Buy a little desk or put that child by the kitchen table. Watch them do their homework. If they don't know how to do it, give them help. If you don't know how to do it, call the teacher. Make them go to bed at a reasonable time. Keep them off the streets. Give ' em some breakfast. Come on. ... You know I am right."
'I've got to talk about us'


Can change happen with words? That's a core question being raised about the Obama candidacy.

"I've got to talk about us a little bit," said Obama. "We can't keep on feeding our children junk all day long, giving them no exercise. They are overweight by the time they are 4 or 5 years old, and then we are surprised when they get sick."

Obama -- who exercises and is careful about what he eats -- said obese children need to improve their nutrition habits, invoking the name of a chain that makes delicious fried chicken.

"I know how hard it is to get kids to eat properly," Obama said. "But I also know that if folks letting our children drink eight sodas a day, which some parents do, or, you know, eat a bag of potato chips for lunch, or Popeyes for breakfast.

"Y'all have Popeyes out in Beaumont? I know some of y'all you got that cold Popeyes out for breakfast. I know. That's why y'all laughing. ... You can't do that. Children have to have proper nutrition. That affects also how they study, how they learn in school."


Obama has delivered "tough love'' messages before about personal responsibility, but he seemed to revel in his "truth-telling" while campaigning in Beaumont, on a day that also took him to Austin and Fort Worth in advance of Tuesday's crucial primaries.

As Obama stumped in the Lone Star State to Texas-size crowds -- he packed in 13,000 people at the convention center here Thursday night -- his campaign was downplaying any presumption that he will emerge in a few days as the all-but-certain Democratic nominee.

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton "is working tirelessly, as is Bill Clinton, in both Ohio and Texas; these races are extraordinarily tight," Obama said during a press conference on his plane en route to Beaumont. The Obama team was shocked to lose the New Hampshire primary in January, and since then, Obama has curbed the bravado that bubbled up in the Granite State.

Obama resisted an invitation by a reporter to write the Clinton campaign obituary. Said Obama, "Remember New Hampshire?"

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Old 03-01-08, 10:16 AM
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Preach it brotha!


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If a wight guy said that then what would that make him ?and the would be all over it
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Old 03-01-08, 10:21 AM
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So he's preaching family values. Maybe he should run as a conservative?
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Old 03-01-08, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by xfilefanfreak
If a wight guy said that then what would that make him ?and the would be all over it
Well said

Kudos to Obama though for saying what must be said at a time when it could politically backfire on him - but I doubt it.
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Old 03-01-08, 10:35 AM
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Apparently in that same speech, he also homphobia to his largely black audience:
An interesting moment came when he was asked a question about LGBT rights and delivered an answer that seemed to suit the questioner, listing the various attributes race, gender, etc. that shouldn't trigger discrimination, to successive cheers. When he came to saying that gays and lesbians deserve equality, though, the crowd fell silent.

So he took a different tack:

"Now Im a Christian, and I praise Jesus every Sunday," he said, to a sudden wave of noisy applause and cheers.

"I hear people saying things that I dont think are very Christian with respect to people who are gay and lesbian," he said, and the crowd seemed to come along with him this time.
This comes on top of his earlier statements about homophobia in the black community back on January 20:
And yet, if we are honest with ourselves, we must admit that none of our hands are entirely clean. If were honest with ourselves, well acknowledge that our own community has not always been true to Kings vision of a beloved community.
We have scorned our gay brothers and sisters instead of embracing them. The scourge of anti-Semitism has, at times, revealed itself in our community. For too long, some of us have seen immigrants as competitors for jobs instead of companions in the fight for opportunity.

Every day, our politics fuels and exploits this kind of division across all races and regions; across gender and party. It is played out on television. It is sensationalized by the media. And last week, it even crept into the campaign for President, with charges and counter-charges that served to obscure the issues instead of illuminating the critical choices we face as a nation.

So let us say that on this day of all days, each of us carries with us the task of changing our hearts and minds. The division, the stereotypes, the scape-goating, the ease with which we blame our plight on others all of this distracts us from the common challenges we face war and poverty; injustice and inequality. We can no longer afford to build ourselves up by tearing someone else down. We can no longer afford to traffic in lies or fear or hate. It is the poison that we must purge from our politics; the wall that we must tear down before the hour grows too late.
He's on record as being against the Defense of Marriage Act and "Don't Ask, Don't Tell". I'll admit, I was a John Edwards fan, but... the more I learn about Obama, and the more I watch him respond to his critics, the more impressed I get.
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Originally Posted by General Zod
Well said

Kudos to Obama though for saying what must be said at a time when it could politically backfire on him - but I doubt it.
The last thing I would have said about that post is that it was "well said".

Sure, there's a double-standard out there. Black people can call each other n*gg*r and white people can't even use the word on an Internet forum, yadda yadda. But that's just claptrap. I'd put a lot more weight in your last statement -- he's willing to go out there and challenge people, and not just stick to the standard political script.
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Very cool of Obama to have some balls and actually say things that are truthful even if if might offend some of his supporters. What is that line from Monster's Ball, something like "You can't be a fat black man in America and get respect"? It is true in most places (except rap music and shitty comedy films of course....).
He has my vote thats for sure.
Didn't he also get on blacks about their reluctance to accept homosexuality in their culture?

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Originally Posted by NCMojo
The last thing I would have said about that post is that it was "well said".
I know.. I was going for teh funny
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Originally Posted by NCMojo
The last thing I would have said about that post is that it was "well said".

Sure, there's a double-standard out there. Black people can call each other n*gg*r and white people can't even use the word on an Internet forum, yadda yadda. But that's just claptrap. I'd put a lot more weight in your last statement -- he's willing to go out there and challenge people, and not just stick to the standard political script.
I understand what your saying but come on i get so sick of the news about a whit guy saying ohhh bad shit about black people but look there are lots of black people that can say the same stuff and slam anybody they want sorry not right and thats y i have turnd the news off
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Originally Posted by Barack Obama
Y'all have Popeyes out in Beaumont? I know some of y'all you got that cold Popeyes out for breakfast. I know. That's why y'all laughing.


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Originally Posted by Sean O'Hara
Are you white or black? Because that eye roll you just did was either really racist, or really powerful.

Mods, can we please have race displayed below screen names so we can respond more appropriately?

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Originally Posted by xfilefanfreak
I understand what your saying but come on i get so sick of the news about a whit guy saying ohhh bad shit about black people but look there are lots of black people that can say the same stuff and slam anybody they want sorry not right and thats y i have turnd the news off
Yeah, THAT'S why.
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Oh, almost forgot. Big thumbs up to Obama for this.

He really does have a good head on his shoulders and the potential to impact people in a lot of good ways.
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Originally Posted by NCMojo
The last thing I would have said about that post is that it was "well said".
i was wondering about that too...
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Originally Posted by General Zod
I know.. I was going for teh funny
ohhh...

i see what you did there...
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Originally Posted by xfilefanfreak
I understand what your saying but come on i get so sick of the news about a whit guy saying ohhh bad shit about black people but look there are lots of black people that can say the same stuff and slam anybody they want sorry not right and thats y i have turnd the news off
Let me just take a moment to speak directly to the white race: please, parents. I'm begging you. Education is so important.
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I understand what your saying but come on i get so sick of the news about a whit guy saying ohhh bad shit about black people but look there are lots of black people that can say the same stuff and slam anybody they want sorry not right and thats y i have turnd the news off
It's a hell of a difference if your brother says something critical about your mother versus if I say something critical about your mother. If your brother says your mother should lose some weight, you know he's part of your family and he's trying to look out for Mom's health. If I say your mother should lose some weight, maybe I'm looking out for your Mom's health ... and maybe I'm just talking shit about your mother.
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It's a hell of a difference if your brother says something critical about your mother versus if I say something critical about your mother. If your brother says your mother should lose some weight, you know he's part of your family and he's trying to look out for Mom's health. If I say your mother should lose some weight, maybe I'm looking out for your Mom's health ... and maybe I'm just talking shit about your mother.
So you're basically saying that any black person is more closely related to any other black person than they are to any white person. That is racist. I have cousins that are black, I think that I probably more closely related to them than they are to Obama.
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If a wight guy said that then what would that make him ?and the would be all over it
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So you're basically saying that any black person is more closely related to any other black person than they are to any white person. That is racist. I have cousins that are black, I think that I probably more closely related to them than they are to Obama.
No, I'm saying that as a general rule, the black community -- like any community -- is going to be more receptive to criticism coming from within than to criticism coming from without.
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*sigh* I was warming up to Sen Obama before this epic blunder. I mean, it was all wonderful right up until the cheap shot. Do NOT screw with Popeye's, Senator!
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It'd be funny now if Popeye's sued.
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It's a good tactic. Republicans can vote in the primary for Obama in Texas, and most probably don't think there is much poing in voting for McCain because it is wrapped up, so say a few things about being a good parent that will get some votes from the other side that already wants to make sure Hillary loses. ANd there is no worry about offending the black audience. Those that would be offended are not likely voters anyway.
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