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Old 04-23-06, 02:02 PM
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What do you think of requiring free ID for all voters?

In order to prevent voter fraud, Georgia is trying to require all voters to have a free voter ID card.

I think this is a great idea.

What do you think?



http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.ph...2-044327-7172r

Georgia may require voter picture-ID

ATLANTA, April 22 (UPI) -- A Georgia law requiring voters to show a government-issued photo ID at the polls has won approval from the U.S. Justice Department.

But a federal lawsuit challenging the law is still pending, and the law has also been challenged in state court.

The Georgia General Assembly revised the law earlier this year, with a bill that makes a state ID card free for anyone who needs it to vote and requires the IDs be made available in all 159 counties.

Republicans, who have pushed for the voter ID law, say it's a common sense measure aimed at curbing potential voter fraud. Lawyers representing several groups suing over the law -- including the League of Women Voters, Common Cause, ACLU and NAACP -- say they will formally ask a federal judge to find the law unconstitutional.

Georgia is one of several states and regions covered by provisions in the Voting Rights Act of 1965 that require federal approval for any changes to voting laws.

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http://rules.senate.gov/hearings/2001/031401samples.htm

In Georgia, analysts found that over 5,400 dead people had voted over the past 20 years.
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How could someone oppose it?
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Old 04-23-06, 02:10 PM
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There's your answer why some are oppose to it.

In Georgia, analysts found that over 5,400 dead people had voted over the past 20 years.

But in CA, illegals can't vote. That's why the ACLU, La Raza, Gil Cedillo, Fabian Nunez, and among a few other idiots are oppose to it.
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What happens if you vote by mail.

I can see it now. Ballots mailed from Mexico, and US states, especially California, don't even notice where the ballots came from and include them in their tally.
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How could someone oppose it?
I'm all for registration. Voting, guns, you name it.
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I believe a much better plan would be to return to the poll tax.
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A pole tax would be unfair to well-endowed gentlemen.
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Old 04-23-06, 02:40 PM
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As long as the ID is free, I have no problem with such a requirement.
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Old 04-23-06, 02:46 PM
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Lawyers representing several groups suing over the law -- including the League of Women Voters, Common Cause, ACLU and NAACP -- say they will formally ask a federal judge to find the law unconstitutional
Ensuring that only those that have the right to vote are the only ones voting is unconstitutional? Funny that some of these same groups sued in 2000 and 2004 citing "voter irregularities" yet they are against any legislation that would work to resolve that situation from occuring.
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Old 04-23-06, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by TracerBullet
As long as the ID is free, I have no problem with such a requirement.
As long as it's free and there are no shenanigans in the way they are issued (e.g. making it harder for minorities to get the ID), then I'm all in favor of it, too.
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Old 04-23-06, 03:03 PM
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Just how could the US possibly pull a scam on Americans by making it HARDER for minorities to get an ID.
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Great idea. If it's free there's not rational reason to oppose it.
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Old 04-23-06, 03:21 PM
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Just how could the US possibly pull a scam on Americans by making it HARDER for minorities to get an ID.
That's one trick I'd like to see David Copperfield to perform.
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Ensuring that only those that have the right to vote are the only ones voting is unconstitutional? Funny that some of these same groups sued in 2000 and 2004 citing "voter irregularities" yet they are against any legislation that would work to resolve that situation from occuring.
That's only when the elections outcome did not go the way they wanted. Remember the silence after the last special elections? NOT a single one of them complain about voters' disenfranchisement, irregularities, and not to mention the evil Diebold machines since elections outcome go their way.
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That's only when the elections outcome did not go the way they wanted. Remember the silence after the last special elections? NOT a single one of them complain about voters' disenfranchisement, irregularities, and not to mention the evil Diebold machines since elections outcome go their way.
hehe...true.

I'm not crazy about requiring IDs for voting because it will be viewed as the end-all, be-all to voting reform. IDs should be the first in MANY steps towards voting reform.

If our banking systems were as sloppy as voting, we'd all be keeping our money in our mattresses.
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As long as the ID is free, I have no problem with such a requirement.

There should be an ID requirement period - free or $10 (over 5 years).

That article looks familiar.
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Anyone have any idea how much it costs to create a laminated ID. I mean everything from the soft dollar costs to the actually materials. I know that the materials probably are not that much but the soft dollar costs would be pretty high.

I imagine that for California the costs would be pretty high.
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I'm all for requiring photo ID
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Originally Posted by Myster X
There's your answer why some are oppose to it.

In Georgia, analysts found that over 5,400 dead people had voted over the past 20 years.
That actually strikes me as a very small number. That's less than 300 people per election in a state with more than 8 million residents. That's assuming, of course, that each dead person voted only once.
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Originally Posted by WCChiCubsFan
Anyone have any idea how much it costs to create a laminated ID. I mean everything from the soft dollar costs to the actually materials. I know that the materials probably are not that much but the soft dollar costs would be pretty high.

I imagine that for California the costs would be pretty high.
Since it would just be needed for people without any other photo ID, such as driver's licenses or state issued ID cards, it wouldn't be so bad.
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Originally Posted by wendersfan
That actually strikes me as a very small number. That's less than 300 people per election in a state with more than 8 million residents. That's assuming, of course, that each dead person voted only once.
I was thinking the same thing. 5,400 people over 20 years in a state the size of GA? If that's the worst of our voting problems, maybe the IDs aren't even necessary.
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I was thinking the same thing. 5,400 people over 20 years in a state the size of GA? If that's the worst of our voting problems, maybe the IDs aren't even necessary.
Since one invalid vote will cancel out a valid vote, I think as a country we owe it to our citizens to ensure that they're vote will count. Isn't that what it's supposed to be all about? The ACLU should actually be in favor of anything that helps accomplish that goal.
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If this country follows the direction of the ACLU.....

http://www.aclu.org/pizza/images/screen.swf
scarry isn't it?
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If this country follows the direction of the ACLU.....

http://www.aclu.org/pizza/images/screen.swf
scarry isn't it?
Nice try, but I think the ACLU is trying to prevent that from happening.
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Originally Posted by Myster X
If this country follows the direction of the ACLU.....

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scarry isn't it?
I'm astounded at your lack of comprehension.
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