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Old 11-06-04, 10:20 AM
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What'd they say?
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Old 11-06-04, 10:30 AM
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I'm guessing along the lines of "21 million strong, the youth of today really made a difference"?



I love the "You Tell Us" page. Reminds me of the man on the street part of The Onion:

Even though my chosen candidate didn't win, just seeing the diversity of the people at the polls made me feel like I was doing something that was really worth taking the 5 minutes to do.
Chris, 21
North Brunswick, NJ

I wish the best for Bush, but I really hope that he doesn't do worse than he has already done.
Heather, 20
Casper, WY

Kerry's admirable decision to concede demonstrates what an incredible president we rejected.
Kristin, 22
Scottsdale, AZ



Congratulations to the winner. I'm going to go find an old bomb shelter now. I should be safe there until 2008.
Josh, 22
Los Angeles, CA

This election was devastating. All I can say is that I hope Bush doesn't let us, the American people, down.
Giselle, 18
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Old 11-06-04, 10:34 AM
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Old 11-06-04, 10:46 AM
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<B>I keep hearing that the Rock the Vote type campaigns didn't work. </b>

That would be... correct.
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Old 11-06-04, 01:17 PM
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Re: You know why the youth vote didn't make an impact?

Originally posted by IMRICKJAMES
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

Too many of them were too busy killing hookers and stealing cars on their PS2s to go vote
Then it's a good thing Halo 2 Comes out on the 9th rather than the 2nd.
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Old 11-06-04, 05:13 PM
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Re: Re: You know why the youth vote didn't make an impact?

Originally posted by mjlukich
Then it's a good thing Halo 2 Comes out on the 9th rather than the 2nd.
Oh man, if Halo 2 came out right before the election like GTA did than I can't imagine the result. I guess the only people that would have voted would have been people that wore their XBox down so much it blew up
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Old 11-06-04, 05:15 PM
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Originally posted by IMRICKJAMES
it starts at the top

The people like 50 Cent and Paris Hilton that were supposed to be influencing young people to vote weren't even registered.
50 Cent was a convicted felon, so he isn't allowed to vote.
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Old 11-06-04, 05:16 PM
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i probably wont start voting for another 8 years, when im 25. Yes halo 2.... im going to skip school to get that game!! i wont see daylight for days!
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Old 11-06-04, 05:49 PM
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Whats going to happen when everyone voting now is dead?

Vote Count in 2050:

10,987 total????
Other people will start voting. The youth don't vote now because they really don't think it matters to them either way. Once they grow up, get the job/family/responsibility they'll start voting.
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Old 11-06-04, 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by Roto
50 Cent was a convicted felon, so he isn't allowed to vote.
you don't see any problem with using a convicted felon to shill for people to go vote?? You are missing my point. People like P Diddy Paris Hilton and 50 cent aren't exactly the type of people that should be representing registering and voting for the youth of America
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Old 11-06-04, 09:54 PM
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Originally posted by Y2K Falcon
I'm guessing along the lines of "21 million strong, the youth of today really made a difference"?



I love the "You Tell Us" page. Reminds me of the man on the street part of The Onion:

Even though my chosen candidate didn't win, just seeing the diversity of the people at the polls made me feel like I was doing something that was really worth taking the 5 minutes to do.
Chris, 21
North Brunswick, NJ

I wish the best for Bush, but I really hope that he doesn't do worse than he has already done.
Heather, 20
Casper, WY

Kerry's admirable decision to concede demonstrates what an incredible president we rejected.
Kristin, 22
Scottsdale, AZ



Congratulations to the winner. I'm going to go find an old bomb shelter now. I should be safe there until 2008.
Josh, 22
Los Angeles, CA

This election was devastating. All I can say is that I hope Bush doesn't let us, the American people, down.
Giselle, 18
Galloway, NY

http://www.mtv.com/chooseorlose/youtellus/
Interesting, I thought maybe you were just selecting the Kerry comments but it turns out aside from 2 Bush supporters the entire page is dedicated to Kerry. Well hopefully someday the "youth vote" will be as diverse as the "grown-up" vote and not be so one sided.
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Old 11-06-04, 10:17 PM
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Originally posted by Thor Simpson
<B>I keep hearing that the Rock the Vote type campaigns didn't work. </b>

That would be... correct.
No, it would not be.

Percentage of 18- to 29-year-olds voting in 2000: 42.3
Percentage of 18- to 29-year-olds voting in 2004: 51.6

(and quite a bit higher in battleground states).
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Old 11-06-04, 10:24 PM
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Originally posted by dork
No, it would not be.

Percentage of 18- to 29-year-olds voting in 2000: 42.3
Percentage of 18- to 29-year-olds voting in 2004: 51.6

(and quite a bit higher in battleground states).

This voting demographic increased by approximately 2 million since the 2000 election. How much has the overall population increased since then?
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Old 11-06-04, 10:25 PM
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Originally posted by dork
No, it would not be.

Percentage of 18- to 29-year-olds voting in 2000: 42.3
Percentage of 18- to 29-year-olds voting in 2004: 51.6

(and quite a bit higher in battleground states).
I'd be curious to see what the percentage is for the 18- to 23-year-olds is. I'd think that would be a better age range to represent the targeted "Rock The Vote" audience.

My guess is that there was still an increase in voting, but I'd bet that the majority of that 9.3% jump comes from the 24-29 group (read "out of school and busier working than watching MTV").
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Old 11-06-04, 10:54 PM
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Originally posted by Pharoh
This voting demographic increased by approximately 2 million since the 2000 election. How much has the overall population increased since then?
I think the percentages make the point, immaterial of the change in absolute numbers due to population growth.

It is estimated that 4.6 million new voters from this group voted in the election. The population grew by about 13.2 million, as best I can tell by looking at the Census Bureau's Population Clock. Hopefully, none of those 13.2 million voted in this election, P. Diddy or not. The percentage of Americans in the 15- to 24-demographic in the 2000 census was 13.9; this percentage has been steadily declining over the years, and this is the group that gave rise to the new voters this time. Any way you look at it, this group made significant gains in producing new voters. I'm sure you can find an old dude to do a regression analysis for you, if you are so inclined.
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Old 11-06-04, 11:44 PM
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Originally posted by Roto
50 Cent was a convicted felon, so he isn't allowed to vote.
Even better
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Old 11-07-04, 12:25 AM
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Adam Carolla (and Dr. Drew) on Rock the Vote

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Old 11-07-04, 01:21 AM
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Originally posted by dork
Percentage of 18- to 29-year-olds voting in 2000: 42.3
Percentage of 18- to 29-year-olds voting in 2004: 51.6
Originally posted by nevermind
I've heard the 18-25 was the same turnout (17%) as 2000. Not even one in five.
Okay, so who's screwing with me? Or is it the 25-29 year bracket that makes up for this somehow?
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Old 11-07-04, 02:39 AM
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Originally posted by Thor Simpson
Okay, so who's screwing with me? Or is it the 25-29 year bracket that makes up for this somehow?
That's what I was guessing a few posts up. I'd be really surprised if the super-young voters increased that much.
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Old 11-07-04, 07:53 AM
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MTV is funny! It's great to hear them accuse the "main stream media" of not telling the youths the truth about youth voter turnout. I mean all the money they spent has to be justified I guess.
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Old 11-07-04, 10:01 AM
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Originally posted by Thor Simpson
Okay, so who's screwing with me?
The 17% (actually, 18.4%) is the percentage of all voters who were in the 18 to 29 age range. It doesn't say anything about the rather significant increase in young voter participation.
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Originally posted by dork
The 17% (actually, 18.4%) is the percentage of all voters who were in the 18 to 29 age range. It doesn't say anything about the rather significant increase in young voter participation.
It that's the case, them just as confused as Thor . . . how does 17% (or 18.4%) match up with the 42.3% and 51.6% you mentioned earlier?
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Old 11-07-04, 10:16 AM
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Originally posted by talemyn
It that's the case, them just as confused as Thor . . . how does 17% (or 18.4%) match up with the 42.3% and 51.6% you mentioned earlier?
There were about 21 million voters between the ages of 18 and 29. There were about 114 million voters in all. 21 million is 18.4% of this. There are about 40.7 million Americans between the ages of 18 and 29. 21 million is 51.6% of this. 51.6% of Americans between the ages of 18 and 29 turned out to vote. This is a much higher fraction than any in recent memory.
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Oh... you're saying that young voters accounted for 18.4% of the total vote, not that 18.4% of them voted?
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Yes!
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