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Old 05-05-09, 12:52 PM
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,518712,00.html

Corrections Officer Fired After Shocking Kids With Stun Gun

Saturday , May 02, 2009

CARRABELLE, Fla.

A Florida corrections officer was fired after zapping children with 50,000 volts of electricity during a "Take Our Daughters and Sons to Work Day" tour.

Department of Corrections Secretary Walt McNeil has ordered an investigation of the April 24 incident at the Franklin Correctional Institution.

Sgt. Walter Schmidt says the parents gave him permission to shock the children with a handheld stun device. Such devices are typically used to subdue unruly or uncooperative inmates and must be in direct contact with the person to deliver the shock.

Schmidt was fired. Warden Duffie Harrison said Schmidt zapped "at least two kids."

The children's names and ages were not released.
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Visiting kids are zapped at jail
By Meg Laughlin, Times Staff Writer

Published Friday, May 1, 2009


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It was "Take Our Daughters and Sons to Work Day" at the Franklin Correctional Institution, and Sgt. Walter Schmidt wanted to give the kids an idea of what their parents do.

So he took out a handheld stun device and zapped them with 50,000 volts of electricity.

The children, whose ages are not available, reportedly yelped in pain, fell to the ground and grabbed red burn marks on their arms. One was taken to a nearby hospital.


DOC spokeswoman Jo Ellyn Rackleff said in an e-mail, "We believe that a number of children may have received a shock."

Schmidt, the arsenal sergeant at the Panhandle prison, said he asked parents for permission to shock the kids.

"When they said 'sure,' I went ahead and did it," he said by phone Friday.

Three days after the April 24 incident, Warden Duffie Harrison wrote Schmidt that his "retention would be detrimental to the best interests of the state" because he had "engaged in inappropriate conduct while demonstrating weapons to several kids during a special event at the institution.''

"You tased at least two kids to demonstrate the EID, which is in direct violation of procedure and placed the department at risk of litigation," Harrison wrote.

Schmidt was terminated after 14 years with the Department of Corrections.

"It wasn't intended to be malicious, but educational," Schmidt said. "The big shock came when I got fired."

DOC Secretary Walt McNeil expressed concern for the children, whose names were not released, and ordered a full investigation into the matter.

Schmidt said he could not give more details about what happened because of the investigation.

Electronic Immobilization Devices such as the one Schmidt demonstrated are typically used to subdue unruly or uncooperative inmates.

Unlike the Taser, which is fired at a distance and delivers its shock via dart-tipped wires, the EID Schmidt used must be in direct contact with the person to shock them. The 50,000 volts emitted by the device are 450 times as strong as the current in a household electrical outlet.

EIDs work by temporarily disrupting the person's neural and muscular systems. Deaths have been attributed to the devices, though other factors such as drug use and other health problems are often said to play a role.

Meg Laughlin can be reached at [email protected].
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So the parents gave permission. Wouldn't they be co-workers who brought their kids to work? They should be terminated as well, in more ways than one.
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"The big shock came when I got fired."

The guy's a comedian.
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"The big shock came when I got fired."
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50,000 volts!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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The 50,000 volts emitted by the device are 450 times as strong as the current in a household electrical outlet.


Volts isn't a unit to measure current
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The 50,000 volts emitted by the device are 450 times as strong as the current in a household electrical outlet.
Uh, current is measured in Amperes, so this is not a valid statement.

50 kV is about 417 time the standard household voltage (assuming 120 VAC).

One can only assume the current is very low on these devices.

EDIT: Damn too slow. I wasted time trying to find the current of a stun gun.
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'Mind if I show your kid where not to touch a stranger?'
'Sure.'
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"It's the volts that jolt, but the mils that kill!"
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I can't believe the following conversation took place.

Police officer: Can I shoot your child with a stun gun?
Parent: Yes.
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The 50,000 volts emitted by the device are 450 times as strong as the current in a household electrical outlet.


Volts isn't a unit to measure current
hmmm...maybe they meant that the current was 450x of a typical household outlet, which is typically rated about 15-20A, let's just assume 20A, so that'd be 9000A.

50,000V @ 9000A would most certainly mean death.

btw, even 0.1 amp (or something like that) could kill you, if it went directly across the heart.
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I can't believe the following conversation took place.

Police officer: Can I shoot your child with a stun gun?
Parent: Yes.
Why? Intelligence has never been a requirement to procreate.
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'Mind if I show your kid where not to touch a stranger?'
'Sure.'
Zip.
Max, why was your zipper DOWN when you asked this question?
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Max, why was your zipper DOWN when you asked this question?
Why were you looking at Max's crotch?
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hmmm...maybe they meant that the current was 450x of a typical household outlet, which is typically rated about 15-20A, let's just assume 20A, so that'd be 9000A.

50,000V @ 9000A would most certainly mean death.

btw, even 0.1 amp (or something like that) could kill you, if it went directly across the heart.
Typical houshold current is 15 A or so. Most houses probably have a 150-200 A main, or less.



Looks like death could happen at 30 mA, or .03 A! (at 60 Hz )
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Why were you looking at Max's crotch?
Didn't need to, it's common sense. He likely meant unzipped, not zipped. Zipped would have implied his fly was already down. Are you calling Max a liar?
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Prison guards have a reputation of being dim-witted and sadistic.

Every once in a while, one of them goes the extra mile to fulfill the stereotype.
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So the parents gave permission. Wouldn't they be co-workers who brought their kids to work? They should be terminated as well, in more ways than one.
My thought as well. I don't think anyone should be fired. I think the parents should explain to their kid why they gave permission for them to get zapped.

If it was that bad you'd think the parents would have stopped him after the first one... but apparently they didn't mind. Who's at fault here?
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No youtube video? I love watching people get zapped by a stun gun. Watching the reaction on their parents faces would have been great.

It's amazing to me how people don't have the foresight to determine the end results of an action like this.
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I really hope childrens services gets involved.
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The conversation was probably more like this:

"Mommy, can I try the zapper?"
"No."
"Please, I want to try the zapper!"
"No, you wouldn't like it."
"Please, please, please, please, I wanna try the zapper, I wanna get zapped, I wanna try it, please, please...!"
"OKAY! Somebody zap this kid!"
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The conversation was probably more like this:

"Mommy, can I try the zapper?"
"No."
"Please, I want to try the zapper!"
"No, you wouldn't like it."
"Please, please, please, please, I wanna try the zapper, I wanna get zapped, I wanna try it, please, please...!"
"OKAY! Somebody zap this kid!"
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Originally Posted by jonw9 View Post
Typical houshold current is 15 A or so. Most houses probably have a 150-200 A main, or less.



Looks like death could happen at 30 mA, or .03 A! (at 60 Hz )
i love the smileys on that diagram!

btw, isn't the AC breaker a little larger?
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