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Old 04-10-09, 12:43 AM
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2009 World Car of the Year

The 2010 Volkswagen Golf on display at the New York International Auto Show has been named World Car of the Year. Introduced at last yearís Paris Auto Show and known as the Rabbit in earlier U.S. versions, this sixth- generation sporty hatchback from VW beat out top finalists Ford Fiesta and Toyota iQ for the highly coveted honor.

Now itself in a sixth iteration, the World Car of the Year award is the decision of an independent jury of 59 automotive journalists from 25 countries. This yearís initial list began with 51 entries from the worldís automakers, whittled down on the basis of merit, value, safety, environment, significance and emotional appeal. In addition to the top three, other finalists for World Car of the Year honors included the Audi A4/Avant, BMW 7 Series, CitroŽn C5 Sedan/Tourer, Fiat 500, Honda Fit/Jazz, Jaguar XF, Mazda Atenza/Mazda6 and Nissan GT-R. (It has been quite a year for significant new cars.)

The automotive specialists identified the new Golfís more aggressive styling as part of its appeal. Its front end displays sporty mesh ductwork integrated into a new grille design. Trendy headlight clusters are part of its distinct character. Overall, the Golf VI appears more taut, more sculpted than the car it replaces. The carís interior is upgraded from that of the previous generation, decidedly more posh, with hardly anything recalling traditional Teutonic asceticism. A cloaked instrument panel integrates neatly with controls and display screen in its center console. Altogether, the car offers an upscale ambience compared with that of its predecessor.

Worldwide, the Golf has a bewildering total of six different powerplant choices, including a 1.4-liter TSI 4-cylinder featuring compound forced induction, both super- and turbocharging. Two engine choices see initial U.S. availability. The standard Golf VI has a 2.5-liter inline-5 gasoline engine rated at 157 bhp and 177 lb.- ft. of torque. A 2.0-liter turbocharged direct-injected 4-cylinder TDI diesel produces 137 bhp and an impressive 236 lb.-ft. of torque. VW expects this TDI to add to the success of its Jetta TDI in an evolving U.S. diesel market. Based on European assessments of fuel consumption, the Golf TDI is expected to post ratings approaching 50 mpg.

The Golf has a MacPherson strut front suspension and a four-link system at the rear. Sport-tuned variants lower the ride height by as much as 2.0 inches. The gasoline-fueled Golf gets 195/65R-15 all-season tires. The TDIís are sportier, wider and of lower profile, 225/45R-17s, also all-season but of higher performance intent.

And then thereís the GTI, the enthusiastís variant of the new Golf, a separate model really. The GTI is powered by VWís 2.0-liter turbocharged inline-4 producing 210 bhp and 206 lb.-ft. of torque. Itís available with either a 6-speed manual transmission or VWís DSG (as in Direkt Schalt Getriebe, i.e., Direct Shift Gearbox).

The Golf has been an extremely successful model for the Wolfsburg, Germany, based automaker. Since 1974 VW has sold more than 26 million Golfs in 120 countries around the world. In fact, at one time or another, the model has been manufactured in more than a few countries. First-generation Rabbits were produced in the late 1970s in Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania. VW was the first European automaker to establish production facilities in the U.S. in the modern era.




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Old 04-10-09, 12:47 AM
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Re: 2009 World Car of the Year

Disagree. I don't like the stripes on the windshield.
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I have a 2000 GTI (with less than 40,000 miles!) and I love it. It's peppy as hell and still gets great mileage.
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I sure wouldn't want one. Looks like a toy car.
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I would only get it if I could get the compouund forced induction!

And pay cash..of course!
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Re: 2009 World Car of the Year

The automotive specialists identified the new Golf’s more aggressive styling as part of its appeal.
Aggressive styling? It's a freaking hatchback?!
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I must say that I do like the GTI. It is a pretty fun car to drive. But World Car of the year seems a bit excessive
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Aggressive styling? It's a freaking hatchback?!


Hatchbacks can't have aggressive styling now?




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Re: 2009 World Car of the Year

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I would only get it if I could get the compouund forced induction!

And pay cash..of course!
go to wolfsburg and pick one up!
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Hatchbacks can't have aggressive styling now?

My god - those cars are beyond ugly.
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Re: 2009 World Car of the Year

So D.Pham what do you think of the rumored R20? I had my hopes set on on them bringing the Scirocco (and if you guys haven't seen one, google it. I caught one driving by in Hong Kong.), but I might be in for an AWD R20. My wife will get the Avant when she learns to drive.
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So D.Pham what do you think of the rumored R20? I had my hopes set on on them bringing the Scirocco (and if you guys haven't seen one, google it. I caught one driving by in Hong Kong.), but I might be in for an AWD R20. My wife will get the Avant when she learns to drive.
R20 would be hot, but it'd depend on pricing. it's basically go the S3 or GTI 30th powertrain, from what i can gather, though the 30th is detuned. if it's priced substantially less than a R32, then i think it could sell well here. really, i don't think the actual manuf. costs with the beefed up 2.0 engine/turbo and awd should cost that much more.

another option would be for them to release the v50, or some variant of it here. but yeah, right, as if that's ever gonna happen.

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I have a 2000 GTI (with less than 40,000 miles!) and I love it. It's peppy as hell and still gets great mileage.
Out of curiosity, how many times has it been in the shop? I know that many VW's (especially the older Golfs/GTIs) are notorious for problems which is a shame because they really are nice looking cars (interior can't be beat at their price point). The reliability has always sent me running for the hills though.
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Yeah VW reliability is a joke.
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Old 04-13-09, 11:09 AM
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Really weird choice, I like the Golf (the GTI is a blast) but yeah... strange.

I bought a VW not that long ago ('09 Jetta TDI), my primary concern was and still is their notoriety for problems. I love the car so far and know diesel engines are supposed to last long as hell, but that doesn't mean a whole lot if everything else breaks first haha.
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Out of curiosity, how many times has it been in the shop? I know that many VW's (especially the older Golfs/GTIs) are notorious for problems which is a shame because they really are nice looking cars (interior can't be beat at their price point). The reliability has always sent me running for the hills though.
assuming FinkPish was the original owner, his car is probably still covered under powertrain warranty.
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Yeah VW reliability is a joke.
This is what I've heard as well.
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assuming FinkPish was the original owner, his car is probably still covered under powertrain warranty.
That really doesn't have anything to do with my question. If a problem happens even in warranty it's an inconvenience to the owner. My brother used to use that logic on his Explorer that had the extended warranty. It wasn't until it was in the shop for like the third time that he understood what I meant about the whole inconvenience of having to take it in even if it was fully covered.

Plus aren't most power-train warranties like 5 year 60,000 and even if it is still in warranty, from what I've read many VW's have just as many electrical problems as they do power-train and electrical would be part of the bumper to bumper not power-train (save for spark plug or coil pack issues perhaps). If the new Golf truly does improve reliability from the simplified design then that car will be hard to beat for the price.
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That really doesn't have anything to do with my question. If a problem happens even in warranty it's an inconvenience to the owner. My brother used to use that logic on his Explorer that had the extended warranty. It wasn't until it was in the shop for like the third time that he understood what I meant about the whole inconvenience of having to take it in even if it was fully covered.

Plus aren't most power-train warranties like 5 year 60,000 and even if it is still in warranty, from what I've read many VW's have just as many electrical problems as they do power-train and electrical would be part of the bumper to bumper not power-train (save for spark plug or coil pack issues perhaps). If the new Golf truly does improve reliability from the simplified design then that car will be hard to beat for the price.
I own a 2007 GTI that I've had for almost 3 years now, and only brought it into the dealer once to get an optional program (launch control) installed. But with that said, i would never recommend VW to someone who is looking for a low-maintenance car. They're not statistically reliable, compared to Toyota or Honda. I know what I'm getting into, and I'm willing to take the risk, because it's a great car to drive, for the price. But if you look at my car recommendations on this forum, I almost never recommend a VW. Because I realize that most people are looking for a basic car getting them from A to B, in that case, the Toyota or Honda is a much better option.

FinkPish has a 2000, so he had a 2/24 b2b / 10/100 powertrain, free maintenance in b2b. In 2002, the warranty was changed to 4/50 b2b, 5/60 powertrain, free maintenance dropped. In 2009, the warranty was changed to 3/36 b2b, 5/60 powertrain, but free maintenance was added to 3/36.

the maintenance requirement of the b6/mkv as originally released in the US (05/06)was oil changes at 5k, 10k, and every 10k thereafter for most. In 2009, the 5k was dropped, so free maintenance in 2009 means just 10k, 20k, 30k.
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Yeah VW reliability is a joke.
My wife had a WV as her previous car and it broke down constantly.
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With a reputation like what's posted here, it makes you wonder who buys VW cars to begin with.
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With a reputation like what's posted here, it makes you wonder who buys VW cars to begin with.
People who want a German car on the cheap. I went with them because they were the only company offering a reasonably priced "clean" diesel (that and it's a lot of fun to drive, and has a nice interior).

According to JD Power VW is at the bottom of the dependability list, along side Suzuki, Isuzu, Mazda, Scion, Nissan and several others. You get a lot for what you pay for and they are fun as hell to drive, the dependability is a bit of a crapshoot with a seemingly equal number of lemons and tanks.

FWIW, going off the performance of 2006 vehicles, Buick is now listed as the most dependable, followed by Jaguar, Lexus and then Toyota. On average for these guys, each automobile had 1.2 to 1.3 problems over about 3 years (average, 100 cars monitored) -- VW and Suzuki both averaged about 2.6 problems by comparison -- Industry average is 1.7. (JDPower - rating based of any one of 202 different symptoms)

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Chick car.

Or, douche-bag car, if a guy's driving it.
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Yeah, consumer reports has consistently had VW under most Big 3 nameplates in reliability for the past few years. Not even taking reliability into account, I don't see how it won WCOTY.

IMO the new Nissan 370Z gives the most bang for the buck. Synchro-Rev transmission gets 0-60 in 4.7 and has lateral acceleration of 0.99g for ~$30K.......but you'll have to sacrifice two rear seats and a lot of beer money for tires. Those are almost Porsche-like numbers for a V6 Camry price.
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Having owned two Jettas, I can say with an informed opinion that VWs are awful, awful cars.
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