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Old 02-18-05, 08:58 AM
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Failure of 80286 computer costs German rail station 3MM Euros

<a href="http://www.papascott.de/archives/2005/02/16/c64-where-are-you/">link</a>
For the past 20 years a Commodore 64 was instrumental in displaying the departures and arrivals at the Dortmund train station. Now the C64 has died, the display has gone black, and the station has a big problem: a new display system would cost over 3 million Euros. (WDR, via Industrial Technology & Witchcraft)

Update: Welcome visitors from fark.com. Alas, it wasn't a C64 after all, as one of you points out in my comments (see also heise.de), but an Intel 310 system with a 80286 processor. WDR has now corrected their story. ITW also published the correction, and also links to video news clips from WDR (in German, of course).
Teh 80286 crashz0red? Oh noes! How will we play Commander Keen?

What a weird story. I'm curious why they can't just drop a new machine into its place. Surely the machine had some code on it, but can't they just recreate that? I mean - it was a 286 - it couldn't run hideously complex code even if it wanted to.

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Old 02-18-05, 09:29 AM
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I'm sure some geek could come up with a simple emulator program in exchange for a Real Doll and the Star Trek TOS Season sets.
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YEAH BABY!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Minor Threat
YEAH BABY!!!!!

I still have my beloved Commodore 64, as well as the Gamebase64 emulator package so I can run every game from it on my 3.2GHz P4. M.U.L.E. rocks.

Sadly, it wasn't a C64. It was a boring old 80286 Compy. OTOH, even Strong Bad used one of those back in 2003...

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I believe that the computers running most of the DOT signs that are towed into place are old Tandy Trash-80 model 100s.
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M.U.L.E. does indeed rock. I recently got a new emulator that is more stable in windows just so I could play it again
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Does anyone remember an old C64 program called "Logo"? It was basically a little triangle and you wrote directions to make it draw patterns on the screen. We had to work on that program in my 6th grade computer class back around 85'.
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3 Mundred Million? 3 Mega Million? What the hell is 3 MM?

When I was in graduates school (mid 90s), we still used Com 64s, mainly because the entire computer was contained in the keyboard, so it was very portable for inputing data for experiments, or programming for experiments.
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Originally Posted by mikehunt
M.U.L.E. does indeed rock. I recently got a new emulator that is more stable in windows just so I could play it again
Definitely run it under C64S. You even get accurate emulation of the C64's dinky sound chip.

The following statement is hopelessly, frighteningly geek:

The final release of C64S has a bug - the color code for "brown" is wrong, so it comes out as grey. As a result, you can barely see the brown mountains and river bed in M.U.L.E. against the grey surface of Irata, so the game is much less playable. You have to edit the configuration file of C64S to correct the entry for brown.

And while you're at it, you should update <i>all</i> of the color values as follows:
<pre>00 = 00 00 00
01 = FF FF FF
02 = 68 37 2B
03 = 70 A4 B2
04 = 6F 3D 86
05 = 58 8D 43
06 = 35 28 79
07 = B8 C7 6F
08 = 6F 4F 25
09 = 43 39 00
10 = 9A 67 59
11 = 44 44 44
12 = 6C 6C 6C
13 = 9A D2 84
14 = 6C 5E B5
15 = 95 95 95</pre>
What are those numbers? Well, some guy with <i>way</i> too much time on his hands (<i>not me, </i> honest ) actually used a spectrum analyzer on a real C64 monitor to measure the exact colors used. These values result in a more vibrant emulator display.

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Originally Posted by Turd Ferguson
Does anyone remember an old C64 program called "Logo"? It was basically a little triangle and you wrote directions to make it draw patterns on the screen.
A triangle? Sure it wasn't a turtle?

Yeah, I remember it - simple programming languages and computers form a core part of my childhood.

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*shudder*
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Originally Posted by kvrdave
3 Mundred Million? 3 Mega Million? What the hell is 3 MM?
Roman numerals. M = thousand. MM = million. If someone ever writes $3M to mean three million, they're mistaken.

I'm surprised you didn't learn that in your women's studies classes - like, "100MM reasons why men are evil."

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Thank god this isn't Slashdot, otherwise everyone would be clamoring to just use *nix.

That being said, "DOES IT RUN LINUX??? HOT GRITS!"
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Originally Posted by sfsdfd
A triangle? Sure it wasn't a turtle?

Yeah, I remember it - simple programming languages and computers form a core part of my childhood.

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Ahh, yes. Memories.

Turtle, draw me a square!

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Originally Posted by kvrdave
3 Mundred Million? 3 Mega Million? What the hell is 3 MM?
They're in Europe. It's 3 Metric Million. Duh. Geesh!
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according to this http://www.novaroma.org/via_romana/numbers.html a million in roman numerals would be M with a line over it
MM is 2 thousand, like how II is 2
http://www2.inetdirect.net/~charta/Roman_numerals.html
An exception is the numeral M, or 1000, which is used 4 times to represent our number 4000, since the Romans had no single-letter numeral representing a higher value than M
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Damn, it would have been way cooler if was a C64.
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Originally Posted by mikehunt
according to this http://www.novaroma.org/via_romana/numbers.html a million in roman numerals would be M with a line over it
MM is 2 thousand, like how II is 2
http://www2.inetdirect.net/~charta/Roman_numerals.html
Except you can't represent that using normal computers and software. Much like you can't italicize while you're hand-printing/handwriting something, so you use underlining instead.

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I see letters with superscripts and tildes on normal computers, no reason a line over an M couldn't be done
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Originally Posted by Brain Stew
Thank god this isn't Slashdot, otherwise everyone would be clamoring to just use *nix.

That being said, "DOES IT RUN LINUX??? HOT GRITS!"

I notice you left out the best part about the hot grits...
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Originally Posted by mikehunt
I see letters with superscripts and tildes on normal computers, no reason a line over an M couldn't be done
But those are expressly built into current character sets. M-with-a-bar doesn't. You'd have to create it as a new Unicode character, and it would take a while propagate to many machines before it could become common practice. Probably insufficient need for it. So instead, we use MM. Do a Google search like:
<UL>+million +mm</Ul>
to see a whole lot of pages pop up.

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Originally Posted by sfsdfd
Roman numerals. M = thousand. MM = million. If someone ever writes $3M to mean three million, they're mistaken.

I'm surprised you didn't learn that in your women's studies classes - like, "100MM reasons why men are evil."

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That's a European thing, I think. Americans use the single "M".
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Man, too bad it was a shit IBM. The C64 would still be running.
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Originally Posted by TracerBullet
That's a European thing, I think. Americans use the single "M".
K= thousand, M= million, B= billion, T= trillion

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