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Re: The Beatles - Now and Then
Peter Jackson directed it. Makes sense.
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Originally Posted by BobO'Link
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From what I've read and understand, the original mono tracks on Red have had that done to create true stereo mixes rather than the hard left/right of the original US "stereo" releases. I'm really curious to hear those to see how it sounds. As a kid I had only a mono tape recorder and the mono AM radio for those so hearing them on those early US "stereo" albums is just kind of odd (I didn't purchase most of their material until after they broke up). I prefer the UK mono mixes because of that.
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Originally Posted by Decker
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Peter Jackson directed it. Makes sense.
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I enjoyed the video. I would have liked less silly John but Paul knows better than me what he was like. I think of John as the "Plastic Ono Band" guy. Paul has the courage to look his age, Ringo should reconsider his hairpiece. Anyway good fun.
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Originally Posted by stvn1974
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Do you mean it is smeared to the point that everyone looks like a wax scupture?
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Originally Posted by DeFan
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I enjoyed the video. I would have liked less silly John but Paul knows better than me what he was like. I think of John as the "Plastic Ono Band" guy. Paul has the courage to look his age, Ringo should reconsider his hairpiece. Anyway good fun.
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Originally Posted by DeFan
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I enjoyed the video. I would have liked less silly John but Paul knows better than me what he was like. I think of John as the "Plastic Ono Band" guy. Paul has the courage to look his age, Ringo should reconsider his hairpiece. Anyway good fun.
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Originally Posted by DeFan
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Ringo should reconsider his hairpiece.
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Kind of a bittersweet story about a violinist who performed on the song, thinking it was for a Paul McCartney solo session and died of breast cancer before she found out that the super secret session was actually for the last Beatles song.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/caroli...tles-1.7020774 |
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I don't know about Rick Beato's reaction about anything.
In a previous video he called Mountain and Foghat one hit wonders. |
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There's no true definition of what a One Hit Wonder is -- I once saw Sinead O'Connor referred to as such and I took great exception to that. That said, Mountain and Foghat persist in the public consciousness, and make royalties as a result of one song each. That feels like a one hit wonder to me -- even though I am aware that Foghat had several hits at the time of their greatest popularity.
A litmus test : Is Rick Astley a One Hit Wonder? I know a few of his songs, but everyone knows that one. |
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Sinead O'Connor only had one song reach the Billboard Top 40. We all know that one.
Emperor's New Clothes only got to #60. That's my litmus test since so many of us grew up on Casey Kasem and other hosts' "top 40" radio countdowns. BTW, a band a slag a lot, Radiohead is a two-hit wonder by my definition with Creep at #37 and Nude at #37. And for reference, Foghat had five reach top 40. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foghat#Singles |
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I finally watched the video and that really sells it. A beautiful and touching tribute to the missing members.
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The song is solid, probably my favorite of the post-Beatles releases like Free As A Bird. The video does nothing for me.
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The video seems to be aimed at nostalgic boomers.
This song and the other two songs sound to me like ideas that John had that he liked, but he thought they still needed work. They seem like early drafts. They lack energy. |
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After seeing the video for the song I've decided the 3 demos turned into "Beatles songs" are all contrivances of Paul's to get some kind of closure *for him* where none exists. "Now and Then" sounds like another of John's rather trifling love songs yet the video appears to be deliberately manipulated to inject a different meaning that I just don't feel exists while creating that nostalgic pull to make it resonate better. I really doubt John was singing about Paul, or the Beatles, when he wrote that song. IMHO, they're interesting experiments, but they're not true Beatles songs.
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Originally Posted by Decker
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A litmus test : Is Rick Astley a One Hit Wonder? I know a few of his songs, but everyone knows that one.
In Astley's case, he had two hit songs that did well and had a hit song on the second album that also did well. The 2nd album though just did ok, and only sold a fraction of what the first album sold. |
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Originally Posted by BobO'Link
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After seeing the video for the song I've decided the 3 demos turned into "Beatles songs" are all contrivances of Paul's to get some kind of closure *for him* where none exists. "Now and Then" sounds like another of John's rather trifling love songs yet the video appears to be deliberately manipulated to inject a different meaning that I just don't feel exists while creating that nostalgic pull to make it resonate better. I really doubt John was singing about Paul, or the Beatles, when he wrote that song. IMHO, they're interesting experiments, but they're not true Beatles songs.
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Originally Posted by BobO'Link
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After seeing the video for the song I've decided the 3 demos turned into "Beatles songs" are all contrivances of Paul's to get some kind of closure *for him* where none exists. "Now and Then" sounds like another of John's rather trifling love songs yet the video appears to be deliberately manipulated to inject a different meaning that I just don't feel exists while creating that nostalgic pull to make it resonate better. I really doubt John was singing about Paul, or the Beatles, when he wrote that song. IMHO, they're interesting experiments, but they're not true Beatles songs.
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Originally Posted by The Questyen
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I'll trust 2 of the Beatles opinions on what makes a "true Beatles song" over some dude on the internet sorry to tell you.
IMHO, calling these "Beatles" songs isn't that much different than calling "Yesterday" a Beatles song. In spite of the group somewhat working on it together for a long time, even Martin said: "['Yesterday'] wasn't really a Beatles record." He and Epstein agreed to release it as such so as to not make it look like the Beatles were splitting up. And *because* it's not a "true" Beatles song, the group would not allow a UK single to be released (though it *did* get single releases in many other countries, including the US and *finally* in the UK in 1976 when their contract with EMI ended allowing EMI to package the catalog however they wished). My opinion on the 3 "Anthology Sessions" songs not being "true" Beatles songs is based on Lennon having zero input, outside writing them, and that during the Anthology recording sessions for "Now and Then," Harrison said “This is fucking rubbish.” The jury's out on whether he was talking about the song itself or just the poor quality of the recording and that it was, essentially, impossible to get something decent sounding out of what they had to work with. According to McCartney, Harrison was the sole reason those sessions were stopped. Would he have the same opinion today with the use of MAL for the separations? Who knows... At least the estates of Lennon and Harrison were on board so it's not like McCartney took it upon himself and just did it anyway, although I think John would have taken offense with the "Wall of Sound" string sections. Those seem out-of-place, especially considering how vehemently McCartney feels about Spector doing a similar thing to some of his "Let it Be" material. McCartney also reworked the original lyrics. The recording session lyric notes: https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...d35f660d02.jpg By reworking the original lyrics he changed it from a simple love song to something it's not - and the song's video was also created to support that change of lyrics. It's pure manipulation on Paul's part, all based on what Lennon reportedly last said to him. All in all, and solely my opinion, the 3 songs from those sessions are all rather sub-par Beatles material. I listen to their original back catalog quite frequently. Those 3 songs - hardly ever. I'll be purchasing copies of the newly remastered/updated "Red" and "Blue" releases. When I rip them for my media server I'll be removing "Now and Then" from the tail of "Blue" (it *really* sounds out of place) and creating a "single" that's identical to the vinyl release that'll go in it's own folder - just like I have with the other 2 singles from the Anthology sessions. |
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Seeing stuff like this still makes me smile so wide.
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That is awesome and yes big smile here too!
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Where was Yoko Ono?!? :mad:
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