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Daytripper 01-03-23 10:55 PM

Pitchfork's 50 Best Shoegaze Albums of All Time
 
A favorite era of mine. So many great bands and albums. Curve has to be my favorite. Definitely a top 5 band of mine (any genre/all-time). During the early to mid 90's, I listened to them and Lush the most. But what a great list. I need to revisit all of these.

https://pitchfork.com/features/lists...0oLojKuogUcYmM

dom56 01-04-23 12:14 AM

Re: Pitchfork's 50 Best Shoegaze Albums of All Time
 
Jesus And Mary Chain Psychocandy should have been on the list.

Daytripper 01-04-23 12:39 AM

Re: Pitchfork's 50 Best Shoegaze Albums of All Time
 

Originally Posted by dom56 (Post 14214681)
Jesus And Mary Chain Psychocandy should have been on the list.

Likewise for the Darling Buds second or third album.

JasonX 01-04-23 08:41 AM

Re: Pitchfork's 50 Best Shoegaze Albums of All Time
 

Originally Posted by Daytripper (Post 14214687)
Likewise for the Darling Buds second or third album.

I love Jesus and Mary Chain and I like the Darling Buds. I don't think either is even remotely fitting to be put on a list of Shoegaze bands. They each might have had a song or two that veers into that territory, but neither had an album that I would come close to classifying as such.

Daytripper 01-04-23 09:28 AM

Re: Pitchfork's 50 Best Shoegaze Albums of All Time
 

Originally Posted by JasonX (Post 14214750)
I love Jesus and Mary Chain and I like the Darling Buds. I don't think either is even remotely fitting to be put on a list of Shoegaze bands. They each might have had a song or two that veers into that territory, but neither had an album that I would come close to classifying as such.

"Pop Said"? No. And a few tracks on "Crawdaddy" are. But "Erotica" is most definitely shoegaze.

https://www.sputnikmusic.com/bands/T...ng-Buds/88979/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erotic...ing_Buds_album)

kefrank 01-04-23 10:27 AM

Re: Pitchfork's 50 Best Shoegaze Albums of All Time
 
Even though I never dove too deep into the genre, a few of my favorite albums are on that list. MBV's albums are transcendent, Starflyer 59's Gold is one of my favorite albums from any genre, and I have a soft spot for M83's Dead Cities, Red Seas, & Lost Ghosts though I've rarely thought of it in a strictly shoegaze context.

JasonX 01-04-23 01:51 PM

Re: Pitchfork's 50 Best Shoegaze Albums of All Time
 

Originally Posted by Daytripper (Post 14214772)
"Pop Said"? No. And a few tracks on "Crawdaddy" are. But "Erotica" is most definitely shoegaze.

https://www.sputnikmusic.com/bands/T...ng-Buds/88979/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erotic...ing_Buds_album)

Even your link couches things with "blended", which I think is apt. The initial single off the album, Sure Thing, isn't especially shoegazy. Certainly some of the other tracks are much more so, but I think you could make a valid argument either way. Anyway, I appreciate the reminder about this third album. I really liked Pop Said, but didn't dig Crawdaddy as much and don't think I gave Erotica more than a listen or two.

GoVegan 01-04-23 02:54 PM

Re: Pitchfork's 50 Best Shoegaze Albums of All Time
 
I love shoegaze, but I've probably only got half these albums. I'm going to go ahead and trust Pete Kember from Spacemen 3, though, so I'll give the rest a listen.

slop101 01-05-23 11:51 AM

Re: Pitchfork's 50 Best Shoegaze Albums of All Time
 
I like most shoegaze bands (Ride being my favorite), but I really do not like My Bloody Valentine, and do not understand why they are so heralded.

JasonX 01-05-23 02:24 PM

Re: Pitchfork's 50 Best Shoegaze Albums of All Time
 

Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 14215374)
I like most shoegaze bands (Ride being my favorite), but I really do not like My Bloody Valentine, and do not understand why they are so heralded.

I can completely understand that if you are someone that thinks lyrics is integral or important to the enjoyment of music (or at least rock music). I think anyone that digs either instrumental or music for which lyrics isn't central at all, is much more likely to dig MBV. They also seem to be the type of band that the listening environment plays a larger part in the enjoyment of the music than most.

Kurt D 01-05-23 04:32 PM

Re: Pitchfork's 50 Best Shoegaze Albums of All Time
 
It's because they recorded one of the best albums of all time. :)

slop101 01-06-23 10:48 AM

Re: Pitchfork's 50 Best Shoegaze Albums of All Time
 

Originally Posted by JasonX (Post 14215505)
I can completely understand that if you are someone that thinks lyrics is integral or important to the enjoyment of music (or at least rock music). I think anyone that digs either instrumental or music for which lyrics isn't central at all, is much more likely to dig MBV. They also seem to be the type of band that the listening environment plays a larger part in the enjoyment of the music than most.

My issue isn't their lyrics (I can't even make out what they sing), but that it all sounds like a bunch of mush.
It's beyond being a "wall of sound", but indistinct instrument noise, as if no member of the band can even hear the other.

mndtrp 01-06-23 11:42 AM

Re: Pitchfork's 50 Best Shoegaze Albums of All Time
 
I've never really delved into this genre. Out of the very few albums on the list that I recognize, I do like what I've heard, primarily Alcest. I guess this list is as good a start as any to see what's out there, even though it seems like I could just listen to My Bloody Valentine to hit half the list.

JasonX 01-06-23 12:54 PM

Re: Pitchfork's 50 Best Shoegaze Albums of All Time
 

Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 14215925)
My issue isn't their lyrics (I can't even make out what they sing), but that it all sounds like a bunch of mush.
It's beyond being a "wall of sound", but indistinct instrument noise, as if no member of the band can even hear the other.

The irony is that that "mush" is so precisely recorded and produced that they basically bankrupted Creation Records. You might not like the end result at all, but I don't think anyone can dispute that it sounds exactly how Shields wanted it to sound. This isn't Metal Machine Music.


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