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Old 01-24-18, 02:38 PM
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Where are all the protest songs?

So Trump has been having his way with Lady Liberty for over a year now ... shouldn't we have more protest songs by now?

Shitty governments usually are great fodder for songs, but I haven't really been hearing much lately. I mostly listen to metal, and the only one I've heard so far is from Machine Head:



lyrics:
Spoiler:
Yesterday I told my sons, "Sometimes the bad guys win."
And that it made me scared about the world that we live in
But I had to reassure them that it wouldn’t be for long
Sons we have to be ourselves
We have to be strong

I said, “Boys you are the future, so let this be a lesson
There may come a day you have to fight off their aggression
Cause fear and hatred won today, the darkness ate the light,"
But both of you look in my eyes, “it’ll be all right.”

In every step you take
I’m with you all the way
Cause I would die for you
And do what’s right for you
In hopes that when I’m gone
You’ll carry on
These words I wrote for you

'Til then…
I’ll sing

Stand your ground
Don’t let the bastards grind you down
Be bold, be strange
Don’t let their fears make you afraid
There’s hope, they’ll change

Well I looked out to the world today, thought “What a bloody mess!”
They stripped our morals from us, put ‘em under house arrest
"Liberty” and “country” are the words they need to speak
A little “God”, a little “freedom”, if we don’t agree we’re weak

And every politician stood there idle and so smug
Empowering the racists and Second Amendment thugs
Wall Street and the billionaires, convinced us they’re so smart
Screaming, “Vote with your wallets, instead of with your hearts!”

But we won't go away!
You won’t forget our name!
The pussy generation, the PC and the brave
The protesters that slink along these streets of misery

And so…
I’ll sing

Stand your ground
Don’t let the bastards grind you down
Be bold, be strange
Don’t let their fears make you afraid
There’s hope, we’ll change
We'll change
We'll change

No, no, no, no, no
We say, "No, no, no, no, no. Fuck no!"
No, no, no, no, no. Fuck no!

So give us all your f*****s, all your ***********s, and your sp**s
Give us all your Muslims, the so-called terrorists
We'll welcome 'em with open arms and put 'em in our mix
We're better off together now, embrace our difference

Remember there is love!
Our words can stop their guns
Forget the rednecks
Living in the past
We're never going back now, we've reached critical mass!

And so…
I’ll sing

Stand my ground
Won’t let the bastards grind me down
I’m bold, I’m strange
Won’t let their fears make me afraid
There’s hope, they’ll change


Anyone got anymore? Post em if you got em!
Old 01-24-18, 02:40 PM
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Re: Where are all the protest songs?

Eminem's new album has a song about Trump.

IMO, younger artists these days are too far removed from real world problems to have government be the muse for their music. Very different than in the 60's/70's.
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Re: Where are all the protest songs?

Morning Joe's
Joe Scarborough singing his way into the #Resist movement

Old 01-24-18, 03:53 PM
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The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind.
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I thought kids only listen to country music where the male singer sings about picking up his girlfriend in his pickup with a 6 pack and going down to the crick?
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Re: Where are all the protest songs?

You have rich entertainers who don't give a shit because they are more worried about their bank accounts and boycotts.
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Re: Where are all the protest songs?

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You have rich entertainers who don't give a shit because they are more worried about their bank accounts and boycotts.
And people wonder why rock is dead
Old 01-24-18, 05:18 PM
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Re: Where are all the protest songs?

I think that, in today's political climate, musicians don't want to take a stand on anything controversial and lose half of their audience.

In the 1960s, the "hippie" musicians were genrally pretty safe to make anti-war songs because that's the message their audience was receptive to.

Now, the audience for rock and all of its genres are all over the map. There are lots of punk and metal fans that are hard core republicans and jesus freaks that fawn over Trump, and there are also punk and metal fans who are hard left Bernie/"resist" types. Combine this climate with the ability of virtual lynch mobs to form on social media (on both sides), and everyone is inclined to keep their mouths shut.

Some musicians, like Ted Nugent and Ani DiFranco, can use politics to cultivate an audience, but it's not a beehive a lot of people want to stick their dicks in.
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Originally Posted by Josh-da-man View Post
I think that, in today's political climate, musicians don't want to take a stand on anything controversial and lose half of their audience.
Yeah, that makes sense. Even Machine Head's fans tended to be more on the alt-right side than the SJW side, and look at the youtube comments on that video. holy crap, you would think MH were commie pinko bastards or something.
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Someone like Springsteen would have no qualms writing scathing songs about Trump, unless they are friends. All of the musicians who used to write protest songs are old or dead now.
Bruce Cockburn, who is also long-in-the-tooth, is hopefully working on an album that will include a vituperative song about the Trumpian nuclear winter.
Here's the song Cockburn wrote about Dubya for his great 2002 album You've Never Seen Everything. It could easily apply to Trump as well:
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Lyrics:
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The village idiot takes the throne
His the wind in which all must sway
All sane people, die now
Be lifted up and carried away
You've got no home in this world of sorrows

There's a parasite feeding on
Everybody's bag of rage
What goes out returns again
To smite the mouth and burn the page
Under the rain of all our dark tomorrows

I can see in the dark it's where I used to live
I see excess and the gaping need
Follow the money - see where it leads
It's to shrunken men stuffed up with greed
They meet and make plans in strange half-lit tableaux

Under the rain of all our dark tomorrows

You've got no home in this world of sorrows
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Roses are red,
Borat wears thongs...

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Re: Where are all the protest songs?

Prophets of Rage is one group that is based soley on protest songs.
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Re: Where are all the protest songs?

There were a couple on the recent Roger Waters album. But I agree that most artists probably don't want to be the next Dixie Chicks. If they weren't political from the get go, there's not much to gain in starting because of Trump.
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Re: Where are all the protest songs?

This whole album is basically protest songs
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Re: Where are all the protest songs?

Doesn't a lot of what Moby makes qualify as protest songs?
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Re: Where are all the protest songs?

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man View Post
I think that, in today's political climate, musicians don't want to take a stand on anything controversial and lose half of their audience.

In the 1960s, the "hippie" musicians were genrally pretty safe to make anti-war songs because that's the message their audience was receptive to.

Some musicians, like Ted Nugent and Ani DiFranco, can use politics to cultivate an audience, but it's not a beehive a lot of people want to stick their dicks in.
I agree with this. Of the major artists, there's simply too much money on the line to make a strong stand against anything. It's not only the band but their record label is all a part of the corporate vertical integration, so they don't want to possibly upset a corporate partner or subsidiary.

I always thought a band like U2 would have something significant to say but on the other hand, look at how much grief they received for giving away their album on iTunes for free.

It isn't worth it anymore. Just shut-up, smile, play your hits and cash your paycheque. Repeat.
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Re: Where are all the protest songs?

1. I recall U2 stalled the release of their new album in order to go back into the studio to add content more relevant to the "post-election" America. I haven't heard the new album. Is there anything approaching a protest song?

2. Bob Dylan's album Infidels is the perfect album for the current America. It was recorded in the early Reagan era, so many sentiments of that period match today perfectly. People always puzzled about who the Jokerman was. Is Bob the Jokerman? Reagan? Record company execs? No...Trump is the Jokerman.
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Re: Where are all the protest songs?

Ministry's new album, like a coule others, is a protest album. I can't see it gaining much traction, though, for a handful of reasons ranging from Jourgenson is out of his gourd to the music itself probably won't be too spectacular.
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Doesn't a lot of what Moby makes qualify as protest songs?
From what I've seen Moby focuses on shaming everybody that isn't a vegan. So much so that I recently took myself off the distribution of anything that comes from him despite still loving his music.
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Re: Where are all the protest songs?

Here's a protest song for yeah, the singer looks like a fat Justin Beiber. The Comment section is pretty funny.
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I think the songs in this thread are any indication it's because no one knows how to write a protest song that doesn't absolutely sound terrible.

I also have to mention that Profits of Rage are possibly the worst super group ever. Someone finally took the crown from Hellyeah
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Older...


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Not so older...


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Call It Democracy

Bruce Cockburn

Padded with power here they come
International loan sharks backed by the guns
Of market hungry military profiteers
Whose word is a swamp and whose brow is smeared
With the blood of the poor

Who rob life of its quality
Who render rage a necessity
By turning countries into labour camps
Modern slavers in drag as champions of freedom

Sinister cynical instrument
Who makes the gun into a sacrament
The only response to the deification
Of tyranny by so called "developed" nations'
Idolatry of ideology

North, south, east, west
Kill the best and buy the rest
It's just spend a buck to make a buck
You don't really give a flying fuck
About the people in misery

I-M-F dirty M-F
Takes away everything it can get
Always making certain that there's one thing left
Keep them on the hook with insupportable debt

See the paid off local bottom feeders
Passing themselves off as leaders
Kiss the ladies, shake hands with the fellows
And it's open for business like a cheap bordello

And they call it democracy
And they call it democracy
And they call it democracy
And they call it democracy

See the loaded eyes of the children too
Trying to make the best of it the way kids do
One day you're going to rise from your habitual feast
To find yourself staring down the throat of the beast
They call the revolution

I-M-F dirty M-F
Takes away everything it can get
Always making certain that there's one thing left
Keep them on the hook with insupportable debt

And they call it democracy
And they call it democracy
And they call it democracy
And they call it democracy

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Neil Young still puts out protest songs. He has released the albums Living With War, Fork In The Road, The Monsanto Years, Peace Trail and The Visitor over the last decade or so. Problem is no one but me buys them.

Buy yeah, younger artists are worried about alienating half their base.

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