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Old 02-11-15, 06:45 PM
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Alice Cooper/Jethro Tull?

Wasn't Alice Cooper a fictional name when the band took the name?

Just wondering about alphabetical order of Alice Cooper and Jethro Tull. In one book I have(All Music Guide 2nd Edition) it lists Alice Cooper under C(always thought it was a fictional name, later it was the lead singers changed name) and Jethro Tull(being fictional) is listed under J. So Alice Cooper(the singer) named himself after the band but doesn't that still make the band's name fictional?

Does U2 come before or after UB40 in alphabetical order?
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Re: Alice Cooper/Jethro Tull?

Julien-K

That's the fictional name of a band started by Ryan Schuck and Amir Derakh formerly of Orgy.
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Re: Alice Cooper/Jethro Tull?

It was, but because it became the name of real person, it's alphabetized under C.

At least we know Marilyn Manson goes under M either way.
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Re: Alice Cooper/Jethro Tull?

Alice Cooper (band): A
Alice Cooper (man): C
Jethro Tull (band): J
Ian Anderson (of Jethro Tull): A
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Re: Alice Cooper/Jethro Tull?

Jethro Tull was a real person. The band used his name.
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Re: Alice Cooper/Jethro Tull?


For the last time... my name's not Hootie.
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Re: Alice Cooper/Jethro Tull?

Originally Posted by van der graaf
Jethro Tull was a real person. The band used his name.
But not a member of the band. Also, there was no Leonard Skinner or Lynyrd Skynyrd in Lynyrd Skynyrd or Pink Floyd in Pink Floyd.

Though there was an Alice Cooper in Alice Cooper (if "Alice Cooper" even qualifies as a band at all, or just a singer with a backing band, like Blizzard of Ozz, which I don't think was ever actually used and it was always Ozzy Osbourne and his backing band) and a Marilyn Manson in Marilyn Manson (which is a bit fuzzier as to whether it's an actual band or solo project, since in the original line-up everyone had names like Ginger Fish and Madonna Wayne Gacy).
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Re: Alice Cooper/Jethro Tull?

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
But not a member of the band. Also, there was no Leonard Skinner or Lynyrd Skynyrd in Lynyrd Skynyrd or Pink Floyd in Pink Floyd.

Though there was an Alice Cooper in Alice Cooper (if "Alice Cooper" even qualifies as a band at all, or just a singer with a backing band, like Blizzard of Ozz, which I don't think was ever actually used and it was always Ozzy Osbourne and his backing band) and a Marilyn Manson in Marilyn Manson (which is a bit fuzzier as to whether it's an actual band or solo project, since in the original line-up everyone had names like Ginger Fish and Madonna Wayne Gacy).
Well, he was long dead. And an agriculturalist, not a musician. So, that would have been tough....
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Re: Alice Cooper/Jethro Tull?

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
But not a member of the band. Also, there was no Leonard Skinner or Lynyrd Skynyrd in Lynyrd Skynyrd or Pink Floyd in Pink Floyd.

Though there was an Alice Cooper in Alice Cooper (if "Alice Cooper" even qualifies as a band at all, or just a singer with a backing band, like Blizzard of Ozz, which I don't think was ever actually used and it was always Ozzy Osbourne and his backing band) and a Marilyn Manson in Marilyn Manson (which is a bit fuzzier as to whether it's an actual band or solo project, since in the original line-up everyone had names like Ginger Fish and Madonna Wayne Gacy).
For the first few albums Alice Cooper was the band, Vinncent Furnier the singer. They broke up in 75 after releasing some of their best albums, Love it to Death, Killer and School's Out.
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Re: Alice Cooper/Jethro Tull?

Oh by the way, which one's Pink?
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Re: Alice Cooper/Jethro Tull?

Originally Posted by astrochimp
Oh by the way, which one's Pink?
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Re: Alice Cooper/Jethro Tull?

Correct!

I would have also accepted:

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Re: Alice Cooper/Jethro Tull?

PJ Harvey = the band
Polly Jean Harvey = the singer of that band
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Re: Alice Cooper/Jethro Tull?

Come to think of it, I do a lot of used vinyl searching in whatever city I happen to be in, and have seen Captain Beefheart placed under both the "C" and "B" sections and Henry Cow under both the "H" and "C" sections .
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Re: Alice Cooper/Jethro Tull?

Originally Posted by arminius
For the first few albums Alice Cooper was the band, Vinncent Furnier the singer. They broke up in 75 after releasing some of their best albums, Love it to Death, Killer and School's Out.
IIRC, Billion Dollar Babies was also a band release. Alice Cooper became a solo artist with Welcome To My Nightmare.
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Re: Alice Cooper/Jethro Tull?

Originally Posted by Supermallet
IIRC, Billion Dollar Babies was also a band release. Alice Cooper became a solo artist with Welcome To My Nightmare.
You're right, I just didn't like that album as much as the other three.
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Re: Alice Cooper/Jethro Tull?

Originally Posted by astrochimp
Correct!

I would have also accepted:

Spoiler:


Randy Floyd, before next fall you're in need of a serious attitude adjustment young man, you better get your priorities straight, and watch out with that other crowd your running with, dont think I haven't noticed!
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Re: Alice Cooper/Jethro Tull?

Originally Posted by Supermallet
IIRC, Billion Dollar Babies was also a band release. Alice Cooper became a solo artist with Welcome To My Nightmare.
Muscle of Love also band release. I believe there was a court settlement with other band members agreeing to relinquish rights to the "Alice Cooper" name.

Uriah Heep another one. Fictional character,not a band member.

Others: Doobie Bros., Steely Dan, Derek and Dominos

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