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Old 04-02-12 | 07:26 PM
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Old 04-16-12 | 09:32 PM
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I like both as solo artists though I like Gabriel much more. As for Genesis, I'd have to say Collins by default strictly because I only know Gabriel's solo work and nothing of his time with Genesis.

This seems like a great place to ask:What's the best Gabriel era Genesis album to start with? Is there one that's more similar to his solo work? If so I think that would be the one I'd probably want to start with.
Old 04-16-12 | 09:58 PM
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Phil Collins was a better drummer than Peter Gabriel.
True, but I bet most people don't know that Gabriel began his career as a drummer.
Old 04-16-12 | 10:22 PM
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Re: Phil Collins vs. Peter Gabriel

Originally Posted by Cardiff Giant11

This seems like a great place to ask:What's the best Gabriel era Genesis album to start with? Is there one that's more similar to his solo work? If so I think that would be the one I'd probably want to start with.
I would recommend just going backwards from The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway(the last Genesis album with Peter). I'd be shocked if anyone who enjoys his solo stuff didn't like Lamb.
Old 04-21-12 | 06:58 PM
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Try Foxtrot or Selling England by the Pound - I've never warmed to Lamb as much as these two Genesis albums myself, Lamb is a bit TOO overblown. "Supper's Ready" on Foxtrot may be my fave Gabriel Genesis song.
Old 05-08-12 | 02:35 PM
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Phil Collins was WAY better, not a big fan of PG....
Old 05-08-12 | 06:15 PM
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Phil Collins was WAY better, not a big fan of PG....
Would love to see some actual REASONING for your opinion...

"I Know What I Like" w/ PG :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_EYU...ure=plpp_video

and Phil Collins :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqNKl...eature=related

As is expected, the Phil Collins version is bland and boring. He totally butchers a great song.
Old 05-08-12 | 06:28 PM
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It's funny I am listening to a live version the Carpet Crawlers I found on youtube with Collins singing. I like Collins but he just can't sing the songs Gabriel does. He's much better off singing songs wirrten specifically with his voice in mind.
Old 05-08-12 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Cardiff Giant11
It's funny I am listening to a live version the Carpet Crawlers I found on youtube with Collins singing. I like Collins but he just can't sing the songs Gabriel does. He's much better off singing songs wirrten specifically with his voice in mind.
His versions of Firth of Fifth, Musical Box, Cinema Show, The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway and Supper's Ready on Seconds out are what made me fall in love with early Genesis. Brilliant performances.
Old 05-08-12 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Cardiff Giant11
It's funny I am listening to a live version the Carpet Crawlers I found on youtube with Collins singing. I like Collins but he just can't sing the songs Gabriel does. He's much better off singing songs wirrten specifically with his voice in mind.
You bring up a good point. I'm currently listening to Wind And Wuthering, and the songs fit Collin's voice like a glove. When I hear him do some of the early Genesis stuff, improvising a few of the original lines, I'm just not that impressed. Although, that said, I did see the band perform Supper's Ready in 1982, and it was absolutely fantastic.
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Would love to see some actual REASONING for your opinion...
I'll give you a pretty simple answer. I don't like PG's voice or vocals at all. I'm a huge Genesis fan (Collins) & I tried to give him a chance even tho I thought he ruined their earlier stuff but I never liked anything he did solo either.
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as much as i like to think i hate phil collins, everytime his early solo stuff or genesis with him on vocals comes on the radio, i think to myself "i actually like his stuff". also im a fan of 70's prog (king crimson, roxy music, yes, rush) and i can not stand gabriel era genesis. not sure why, i guess i just dont get it.
Old 05-12-12 | 08:22 PM
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Genesis album by album thread:

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/music-talk/...m-genesis.html
Old 05-26-12 | 03:46 AM
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Gabriel is going to do a new tour where he plays all the cuts from So.

In celebration of the 25th anniversary of Peter Gabriel’s So, Gabriel will head out on a tour where So songs are the main focus. His website suggests that he’ll play the songs “back to front” — so “In Your Eyes” first — but I suppose we’ll see what really goes down. Scope the currently announced tour dates below.

06/29 – Kent, UK @ Hop Farm Music Festival
09/16 – Quebec City, QC @ Colisee Pepsi
09/18 – Montreal, QC @ Bell Center
09/19 – Toronto, ON @ Air Canada Centre
09/21 – Philadelphia, PA @ Wells Fargo Centre
09/23 – Wantaugh, NY @ Nikon at Jones Beach
09/24 – Boston, MA @ TD Garden
09/26 – Detroit, MI @ Palace of Auburn Hills
09/27 – Chicago, IL @ United Center
09/30 – Denver, CO @ Red Rocks
10/02 – San Jose, CA @ HP Pavilion
10/05 – Las Vegas, NV @ Planet Hollywood Showroom
10/06 – Los Angeles, CA @ Hollywood Bowl
10/09 – Santa Barbara, CA @ Santa Barbara County Bowl
http://stereogum.com/1039072/peter-g...ur/tour-dates/


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I don't even know what a sussudio is.
Old 05-29-12 | 05:46 AM
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I think it's apples to oranges. Gabriel was an avant garde/experimental influenced artist whose work with Genesis was in that vein. It ranged from really good to decent to eh. Collins was a pop influenced artist whose work with Genesis was in that vein. It ranged from really good to decent to eh. Genesis was probably more successful commercially with Collins because of the nature of his "pop" ular music leanings.
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Originally Posted by JesseCuster
Genesis was probably more successful commercially with Collins because of the nature of his "pop" ular music leanings.
Probably?
Old 06-03-12 | 09:58 AM
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Thanks for the news about the tour, might be able to make it to the Boston show.

Going back to the whole Collins/Gabriel thing, I still put myself firmly in the camp that I like Gabriel better especially as a solo artist. That's not to say I dislike Collins, in fact I like him quite a lot (and like a lot of the Collins era Genesis songs). They're both just different types of artists and vocalists.

I find I can listen to Gabriel's solo albums in their entirety over and over where as with Collins it's usually specific songs that I'm in the mood for.

Having said that, I really like the 1999 version of The Carpet Crawlers where Gabriel is singing lead vocals and Collins is harmonizing and sings his own part later. They work really well together.
Old 06-04-12 | 02:05 PM
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Just got my tickets for the Chicago show. Forgot they went on sale today so of course missed out on the floor seats but got 9th row along the side - face value $189 each!

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Originally Posted by bunkaroo
Just got my tickets for the Chicago show. Forgot they went on sale today so of course missed out on the floor seats but got 9th row along the side - face value $189 each!

My days of going to concerts by big name classic rock artists is pretty much over. It's getting ridiculous.
Old 06-04-12 | 03:37 PM
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I've never seen him live and Tony Levin is one of my biggest influences on bass so I had to pull the trigger this time. Plus he tours fairly infrequently these days. I'm hoping a lot of this money goes back into the show.

But yeah it's getting terrible.
Old 06-30-12 | 09:52 AM
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I saw 3 additional dates were added. I was going to try to go to Jones Beach or Boston but both being on non weekend nights was going to make it tough for me. I then saw they added a date on a Saturday night at Mohegan Sun in CT so I immediately bought tickets. Super pumped for it this will be my first time seeing him live but from everything I've heard and seen he is an amazing live singer.
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Originally Posted by bunkaroo
I've never seen him live and Tony Levin is one of my biggest influences on bass so I had to pull the trigger this time. Plus he tours fairly infrequently these days. I'm hoping a lot of this money goes back into the show.

But yeah it's getting terrible.
I remember getting close-up floor seats for Us tour: $45. And I thought that was expensive then, in 1993. That was also a very nice production.
Old 07-15-12 | 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Supermallet
Peter Gabriel is my second favorite rock artist ever (after David Bowie), so that's the obvious answer.
Back on topic, though... (So tour needs its own thread) ... I saw this line, and I thought you were quoting me, Supermallet, but forgot the quotes. So ditto that!

But, yes, I do think Face Value is amazing (especially the section with "Roof is Leaking"), but otherwise I don't care about Collins' solo output.

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