Last week Sinead O'Connor attempted suicide.

I love Sinead's music, and I admire and respect her for her openness and honesty. Please send your thoughts and prayers, loving energy, or whatever works for you, to Sinead. Thanks!

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I fail to care for people that want to take their life. If you want to die, you want to die. I care more for people who are dying and do not want to die, like terminal cancer patients.

Ouch. The DVDTalk board member reaction can be pretty harsh.

All I've got to say is that this isn't particularly shocking. She always seemed to have problems and came across as somewhat unstable.

I remember when Kurt Cobain offed himself I wasn't shocked then, either. There weren't too many people who were surprised. Sometimes it's pretty obvious when someone shouldn't be in the spotlight like that. They just can't deal with it.

And then there are those, like Wendy O. Williams, who couldn't live without it.

Suicide is so 1990's.

So is Sinead O'Connor.

She's just clamoring for some attention, isn't she? First her failed Vegas marriage a few weeks ago then this.

This.

sad.

Even those who are mentally ill?

Yes. They have that mindset. It's not that I don't feel for friends and family, they might not want the person to die, but it's a choice they make themselves and I fail to care for them if they make that choice.
There are more people that do not want to die, and have no choice because of something that happens to them. I feel for these people, because they were never given a choice.

Like people with mental illness?

You know exactly what I mean.

In 2003, Sinead was diagnosed with a bipolar disorder; it used to be called manic-depression. Here's some info on the causes of bipolar, from the Mayo Clinic:

"The exact cause of bipolar disorder is unknown, but several factors seem to be involved in causing and triggering bipolar episodes:

Biological differences. People with bipolar disorder appear to have physical changes in their brains. The significance of these changes is still uncertain but may eventually help pinpoint causes.Neurotransmitters. An imbalance in naturally occurring brain chemicals called neurotransmitters seems to play a significant role in bipolar disorder and other mood disorders.Hormones. Imbalanced hormones may be involved in causing or triggering bipolar disorder.Inherited traits. Bipolar disorder is more common in people who have a blood relative (such as a sibling or parent) with the condition. Researchers are trying to find genes that may be involved in causing bipolar disorder.Environment. Stress, abuse, significant loss or other traumatic experiences may play a role in bipolar disorder.Risk factors."

So, Sinead has a mental illness. There are lots of articles out there where she discusses all this in great detail.

I understand what you're trying to say, just think it's shortsighted.

I'm sure The Pope is all torn up about it.

No one chooses to be bipolar, any more than someone chooses to get cancer.

Because they are mentally ill.

I don't think you really know what you mean.

for the most part, those who survive a suicide attempt are likely doing it more for attention without true intent of ending their own life. Those that try and commit suicide because they really want to be dead, usually succeed, because it's pretty easy to do.

Fight the real enemy!

What an attention grabber... first a 2-day marriage-divorce, now this? Seriously....

Suicide or having your life taken from you. Better explanation for you?

People that give notice on their suicide for 99% of the time fail to actually fall through, it's just an attention seeker. They'll take pills, but not enough to really kill themselves, just enough to have to go to the hospital to survive. Or they'll cut their wrists, but just accross the wrists and not in a strait line. Commonly people who really want to commit suicide will not open to others about wanting to do it.
My mother has worked for many years with mentally ill people. I've heard enough about these people destroying their friend's, family's and own children's lives for me to care less about their problems, because all they care about is themselves. In most of these cases the friends, family and children will even want to distance themselves from the person.

All I'm stating is my opinion, and opinions are prooven to be different, I can respect that. However I am curious if somebody with a completely different opinion has dealt closely (and not some relative you see once a week) with somebody with the same problems?