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Re: Frampton Comes Alive! - what??
'76 to '79 was a great era in rock.
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Re: Frampton Comes Alive! - what??
Originally Posted by Suprmallet
(Post 10881809)
I can't tell what point you're trying to make, as you've mixed in some truly excellent albums with some total crap ones.
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Re: Frampton Comes Alive! - what??
Originally Posted by colour
(Post 10881846)
How old are you, like 15?
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Re: Frampton Comes Alive! - what??
Originally Posted by Gerry P.
(Post 10882033)
That's why I said "rarely." For example, out of all the Led Zeppelin songs that received (and continue to receive) heavy rotation on the radio, how many do you think were singles? Like most rock band from the era, the answer is somewhere around one single per album. A single would be released prior to the album, not to have a hit, but to help generate interest in the upcoming album. Once the album was released, FM AOR stations would put as many songs into rotation as were deserved. An album like 'Led Zeppelin IV' was played almost in its entirety. In the '70s, rock was an album market rather than a singles market, and that's why the Top 40 in that era was so crap heavy.
"Smoke On The Water" didn't hit radio until three years after the album. Nobody heard of Lynyrd Skynyrd until "Sweet Home Alabama" got on the radio. Only then did people discover there was an earlier album with a song called "Free Bird". The Derek and The Dominos album flopped when it came out. Nobody heard it. Nobody bought it. The first Clapton album the same year was successful. One year later Atco put out a Clapton anthology with "Layla" on it. This is when people first discoved the song and album. It was almost 1972 by the time the song was popular. |
Re: Frampton Comes Alive! - what??
Regarding the original topic, because of two songs. It amuses me when someone calls someone who wrote 2 songs like those a bad songwriter.
And the 1970s was the best decade for film and pretty great for rock music. |
Re: Frampton Comes Alive! - what??
Originally Posted by rw2516
(Post 10882153)
What's your point?
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Re: Frampton Comes Alive! - what??
I enjoy Frampton's guitar playing, but I can barely listen to Do You Feel Like I Do, mainly because of the crowd reaction to the stupid mouth thing. Every time he did something with it, they started cheering like he had just pulled a crib full of babies from a burning building. Good god, people, it's not that big a deal. It's just an effect, not the cure for cancer.
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Re: Frampton Comes Alive! - what??
Originally Posted by Gerry P.
(Post 10881971)
As an addendum to rw2516's list (which has a lot of awesome heavy stuff on it, though he missed Judas Priest's 'Sad Wings of Destiny'), these also came from '76:
Joan Armatrading: Joan Armatrading Blondie: Blondie Bob Dylan: Desire ELO: A New World Record John McLaughlin: Shakti Joni Mitchell: Hejira The Modern Lovers: The Modern Lovers Parliament: Mothership Connection Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers: Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers Jaco Pastorious: Jaco Pastorious Ramones: Ramones Return to Forever: Romantic Warrior Peter Tosh: Legalize It Van Der Graaf Generator: Still Life Bunny Wailer: Blackheart Man Tom Waits: Small Change Stevie Wonder: Songs in the Key of Life Warren Zevon: Warren Zevon In my opinion: 1976 > The 2000s |
Re: Frampton Comes Alive! - what??
Originally Posted by rw2516
(Post 10882152)
They may not all be great but are at least decent offerings. If I truly wanted to make a list of crappy '76 albums "Black And Blue" would have been right at the top.
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Re: Frampton Comes Alive! - what??
Originally Posted by rw2516
(Post 10881783)
You forgot all the shitty albums from 1976
(list of awesome albums) A lot of you are saying how much music sucks now because of what you hear on the radio. My point is that what was actually played on commercial radio in the 70s also sucked. It's easy to cherry pick classics from a decade of music and forget the schlock that actually sold. It's also a little disingenuous to hold the stuff that's withstood the test of time up as representative of the entire decade when it wasn't even what sold best. Even the much maligned eighties had a crap load of great music but speaking as someone who was in his teens back then, I can assure you that a lot of shit was actually on the radio. Also, to all of the classic rock fans poo-pooing today's music, have any of you heard anything by The Gaslight Anthem, The Hold Steady, My Morning Jacket or the Drive-by Truckers? It would be right up your alley and there's twenty other great bands like that around today. Venturing further afield, there's a shit ton of great music coming out every year these days. Because of the destruction of the record industry, you have to search around a bit to find it, but it's definitly there. Saying "music today sucks" just shows ignorance. |
Re: Frampton Comes Alive! - what??
Originally Posted by Hiro11
(Post 10882850)
I think you missed my point. In fact, if I were to pick a single decade of music as the single greatest of all time, it would easily be the seventies for me. Most of the music I listen to and love is rooted in the seventies and it wasn't on the radio back then. Punk, art rock, krautrock, funk, southern rock, proto-metal etc, etc, all had their heyday in the seventies. Bowie, The Cars, Roxy Music, Can, Neu!, P-Funk, Hawkwind, Suicide, Ramones, Big Star, early Yes, Meters, Sly Stone, Genesis, Herbie Hancock, Eno, Amon Duul II... even the commercial stuff like Boston's debut, Heart's first two albums, Deep Purple, Judas Priest's early stuff, The Allman's first few albums, Skynyrd. Hell, I'll even throw in Giorgio Morodor, disco-era Bee Gees, Sugarhill Gang and other early rap etc, etc, etc. All are sacred texts to me. I'm 38 and all of this is music that I've slowly discovered and appreciated over the years. You have to understand this stuff to understand what's happoening now, I get that.
A lot of you are saying how much music sucks now because of what you hear on the radio. My point is that what was actually played on commercial radio in the 70s also sucked. It's easy to cherry pick classics from a decade of music and forget the schlock that actually sold. It's also a little disingenuous to hold the stuff that's withstood the test of time up as representative of the entire decade when it wasn't even what sold best. Even the much maligned eighties had a crap load of great music but speaking as someone who was in his teens back then, I can assure you that a lot of shit was actually on the radio. Also, to all of the classic rock fans poo-pooing today's music, have any of you heard anything by The Gaslight Anthem, The Hold Steady, My Morning Jacket or the Drive-by Truckers? It would be right up your alley and there's twenty other great bands like that around today. Venturing further afield, there's a shit ton of great music coming out every year these days. Because of the destruction of the record industry, you have to search around a bit to find it, but it's definitly there. Saying "music today sucks" just shows ignorance. One current band I like alot is Too Slim and The Taildraggers. However, they may just be crap because they are kinda similar to ZZ Top. |
Re: Frampton Comes Alive! - what??
Originally Posted by ken_572002
(Post 10880953)
Okay, so I know there is a few decent songs on this 2-album release from 1976. What I don't get is how this could have possibly sold 6 million copies? I mean, as live albums goes, it's not even remotely great. Can anyone explain the huge popularity of this album to me...I just don't get it.
Only thing I could think of is KISS ALIVE was big and this album came out live. |
Re: Frampton Comes Alive! - what??
Originally Posted by The Infidel
(Post 10882339)
I enjoy Frampton's guitar playing, but I can barely listen to Do You Feel Like I Do, mainly because of the crowd reaction to the stupid mouth thing. Every time he did something with it, they started cheering like he had just pulled a crib full of babies from a burning building. Good god, people, it's not that big a deal. It's just an effect, not the cure for cancer.
BTW when you said "that stupid mouth thing", it took me 5 minutes to figure out you meant the talk box. I was like "Wow! The '70's must've really been out of control!"! |
Re: Frampton Comes Alive! - what??
Originally Posted by rw2516
(Post 10881783)
You forgot all the shitty albums from 1976
ACDC-Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap Aerosmith-Rocks Blue Oyster Cult-Agents Of Fortune Bad Co-Run With The Pack Boston Bowie-Station To Station Jackson Browne-The Pretender Eagles-Hotel California Thin Lizzy-Jailbreak Robin Trower-Long Misty Days Kiss-Destroyer Genesis-Trick Of The Tail Steve Miller-Fly Like An Eagle Ted Nugent-Free For All Rush-2112 Queen-Day At The Races Rainbow-Rising Bob Seger-Night Moves Steely Dan-Royal Scam UFO-No Heavy Petting ELO-New World Record ZZ Top-Tejas Foghat-Night Shift REO-REO Heart-Dreamboat Annie Kansas-Leftoverture Styx-Crystal Ball Led Zeppelin-Prescence Rory Gallagher-Calling Card among others |
Re: Frampton Comes Alive! - what??
I liked the Herd and Humble Pie, Frampton solo though? Kind of yuck
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Re: Frampton Comes Alive! - what??
Originally Posted by rw2516
(Post 10881783)
You forgot all the shitty albums from 1976
ACDC-Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap Aerosmith-Rocks Blue Oyster Cult-Agents Of Fortune Bad Co-Run With The Pack Boston Bowie-Station To Station Jackson Browne-The Pretender Eagles-Hotel California Thin Lizzy-Jailbreak Robin Trower-Long Misty Days Kiss-Destroyer Genesis-Trick Of The Tail Steve Miller-Fly Like An Eagle Ted Nugent-Free For All Rush-2112 Queen-Day At The Races Rainbow-Rising Bob Seger-Night Moves Steely Dan-Royal Scam UFO-No Heavy Petting ELO-New World Record ZZ Top-Tejas Foghat-Night Shift REO-REO Heart-Dreamboat Annie Kansas-Leftoverture Styx-Crystal Ball Led Zeppelin-Prescence Rory Gallagher-Calling Card among others |
Re: Frampton Comes Alive! - what??
I *think* he was being facetious. At least I hope so.
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Re: Frampton Comes Alive! - what??
Originally Posted by CRM114
(Post 10887240)
I *think* he was being facetious. At least I hope so.
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Re: Frampton Comes Alive! - what??
Originally Posted by CRM114
(Post 10887240)
I *think* he was being facetious. At least I hope so.
Wings At The Speed Of Sound Wings Over America Johnny Winyer Captured Live Jefferson Starship-Spitfire Stills Young Band-Long May You Run Bob Seger-Live Bullet Lynyrd Skynyrd-One From The Road Rush-All The World's A Stage Al Stewart-Year Of The Cat The Song Remains The Same(3x on this one) Bought Black and Blue on vinyl. Did not rebuy the cd. Borrowed a copy to get "Hand Of Fate" which is a great song. Maybe I changed or the music did, but the follow ups from a lot of these artists is when things started to slide downhill. |
Re: Frampton Comes Alive! - what??
A great Live double album that came out in 1976 -- J. Geils Band - Blow Your Face Out
Awesome live album for a great band -- just saw them last weekend in Boston |
Re: Frampton Comes Alive! - what??
Originally Posted by HUG-H
(Post 10887054)
Hey, if you didn't see it, how do you know he wasn't saving a crib full of babies from a burning building? ;)
BTW when you said "that stupid mouth thing", it took me 5 minutes to figure out you meant the talk box. I was like "Wow! The '70's must've really been out of control!"! |
Re: Frampton Comes Alive! - what??
Originally Posted by Suprmallet
(Post 10882813)
?! Black and Blue has some fantastic songs. Hand of Fate, Hey Negrita, Melody, Crazy Mama. Yeah, Memory Motel is embarrassing but I'd take the worst Rolling Stones songs over the best ZZ Top, Eagles, Steve Miller, or ELO songs.
I hate when people dismiss entire discographies. Like you, I grew up with ZZ Top doing the overpolished synth-heavy MTV tracks and those songs have been massacred due to heavy classic rock overplaying to where I can say I'm fine living the rest of my life never hearing Gimme All Your Lovin' or Sharp Dressed Man again, but some of the 70's stuff is really good and holds up. I don't like "Don't Let Me Down" much as its overplayed but ELO actually have some excellent pop nuggets in their catalog. |
Re: Frampton Comes Alive! - what??
Yeah, I agree nothingfails, there's always some redeeming bits to choose from when looking at any given artist's entire discography. Last Train from London and Secret Messages are some of the lesser known ELO songs and since they are not overplayed, I still enjoy them.
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