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JeffTheAlpaca 08-07-11 03:49 PM

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"Everybody in the world has Frampton Comes Alive. If you lived in the suburbs you were issued it. It came in the mail with samples of “Tide” - Wayne Campbell Waynes World 2

colour 08-07-11 04:05 PM

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Most of the number one songs in any year always suck. I'd be lucky to find one I own out of each year going back to 76. There's hardly ever any rock songs in the list.

The number one songs of 76 are no different than the number one songs of say 2010. Music has changed, but that's about it. The mainstream in music still sucks.

kd5 08-07-11 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Hiro11 (Post 10881639)
- Proposal: "Music was much better in the seventies"
- Rebuttal: the following almost complete list of songs that hit number one in the specific year in question (1976):

Convoy - CW McCall
I Write The Songs - Barry Manilow, of course
Theme From S.W.A.T. - Who give a shit
December, 1963 (Oh, What a Night) - The Four Seasons (this song might be the most annoying song ever recorded)
Disco Lady - Jonnie Taylor
Let Your Love Flow - Bellamy Brothers
Welcome Back - John Sebastian, yes the theme from Welcome Back Cotter
Boogie Fever - The Sylvers
Silly Love Songs - Wings (on second thought, this might be the most annoying song ever)
Afternoon Delight - Starland Vocal Band
Kiss And Say Goodbye - Manhattans
Don't Go Breaking My Heart - Elton John and Kiki Dee
(Shake, Shake, Shake) Shake Your Booty - KC and the Sunshine band (I actually like this song, but it's not exactly the best example of "terrific music")
Play That Funky Music - Wild Cherry
A Fifth Of Beethoven - Walter Murphy
Disco Duck (Part 1)- Rick Dees
If You Leave Me Now- Chicago (same thing I said for "Shake, Shake, Shake")
Tonight's The Night (Gonna Be Alright)- Rod Stewart. This is pretty much the exact point were he started to suck.

Yeah, I edited the list to make a point ("50 Ways to Leave your Lover" also hit #1 in 1976 and that's a classic), but I think the point is made. Also, that's just the number ones. The rest of the charts were assuredly packed with tripe.

I never listened to the Top 40 Dance Hits and the Nicey Nice crap which is basically what that list consists of. I always listened to stuff like Mahogany Rush, Robin Trower, Pink Floyd, Genesis, The Allman Brothers Band, King Crimson, Pat Travers, Tangerine Dream, Vangelis, Gong, Hawkwind, The Godz, Humble Pie, I could go on and on, and I have all of that on vinyl, but not that Top 40 Dance Shit or that Nicey Nice Barry Manilow crap. God, kill me now if I ever had/have to listen to the silly shit in that list. My kind of music never made it to the Top 40 Hits lists, but it's infinitely better that what did.

That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it...:D


BTW, I agree with the ones who said the gatefold albums were good for cleaning weed. They were...:thumbsup: -kd5-

William Fuld 08-07-11 04:36 PM

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The theme from S.W.A.T is fucking awesome.

gmanca 08-07-11 04:49 PM

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I love Silly Love Songs, great moving bass line.

I don't deny that seventies music is generally commercial and intellectually-empty, but there's some very good music from that era.

Right now, I'm hooked on this song by Fleetwood Mac after the Buckingham thread:
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Mr. Salty 08-07-11 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by gmanca (Post 10881691)
I don't deny that seventies music is generally commercial and intellectually-empty, but there's some very good music from that era.

You can say that about any era, not just the 1970s.

colour 08-07-11 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kd5 (Post 10881660)
I never listened to the Top 40 Dance Hits and the Nicey Nice crap which is basically what that list consists of. I always listened to stuff like Mahogany Rush, Robin Trower, Pink Floyd, Genesis, The Allman Brothers Band, King Crimson, Pat Travers, Tangerine Dream, Vangelis, Gong, Hawkwind, The Godz, Humble Pie, I could go on and on, and I have all of that on vinyl, but not that Top 40 Dance Shit or that Nicey Nice Barry Manilow crap. God, kill me now if I ever had/have to listen to the silly shit in that list. My kind of music never made it to the Top 40 Hits lists, but it's infinitely better that what did.

That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it...:D


BTW, I agree with the ones who said the gatefold albums were good for cleaning weed. They were...:thumbsup: -kd5-


Totally agree.

Mahogany Rush and Robin Trower.....man does that bring back memories. I miss cleaning my weed.:D

Supermallet 08-07-11 05:15 PM

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Any year that sees the release of Station To Station cannot be a bad year for music.

gmanca 08-07-11 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Salty (Post 10881703)
You can say that about any era, not just the 1970s.

Yes you can, but the 70's are practically defined by it. It's the era of the novelty song with "hits" like Disco Duck and Convoy.

Mr. Salty 08-07-11 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by gmanca (Post 10881722)
Yes you can, but the 70's are practically defined by it. It's the era of the novelty song with "hits" like Disco Duck and Convoy.

And the 1960s had "Surfin' Bird," "Monster Mash," "Snoopy and the Red Baron," "Tip Toe Thru the Tulips" and "Itsy Bitsy Teenie Weenie Yellow Polka Dot Bikini" off the top of my head.

The 1950s was full of novelty songs, including "Tequila," "The Chipmunk Song" and "Witch Doctor."

The '80s had Weird Al Yankovic, "Valley Girl," "Cause I'm a Blonde" and "Don't Worry, Be Happy."

People have a unique way of remembering the best of whatever era they're from and forgetting the crap. It's the same with movies.

gmanca 08-07-11 05:58 PM

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But none of those songs, outside of Weird Al Yankovic and Valley Girl which are not fair comparisons because all parody is topical to the time, are dated in subject. Disco Duck and Convoy are both songs about outdated fads.

Mr. Salty 08-07-11 06:31 PM

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I don't see how it's relevant to this argument whether the subject matter of the songs is outdated or not. They're still crappy novelty songs that sold very well and made it into the top 10.

rw2516 08-07-11 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Hiro11 (Post 10881639)
- Proposal: "Music was much better in the seventies"
- Rebuttal: the following almost complete list of songs that hit number one in the specific year in question (1976):

Convoy - CW McCall
I Write The Songs - Barry Manilow, of course
Theme From S.W.A.T. - Who give a shit
December, 1963 (Oh, What a Night) - The Four Seasons (this song might be the most annoying song ever recorded)
Disco Lady - Jonnie Taylor
Let Your Love Flow - Bellamy Brothers
Welcome Back - John Sebastian, yes the theme from Welcome Back Cotter
Boogie Fever - The Sylvers
Silly Love Songs - Wings (on second thought, this might be the most annoying song ever)
Afternoon Delight - Starland Vocal Band
Kiss And Say Goodbye - Manhattans
Don't Go Breaking My Heart - Elton John and Kiki Dee
(Shake, Shake, Shake) Shake Your Booty - KC and the Sunshine band (I actually like this song, but it's not exactly the best example of "terrific music")
Play That Funky Music - Wild Cherry
A Fifth Of Beethoven - Walter Murphy
Disco Duck (Part 1)- Rick Dees
If You Leave Me Now- Chicago (same thing I said for "Shake, Shake, Shake")
Tonight's The Night (Gonna Be Alright)- Rod Stewart. This is pretty much the exact point were he started to suck.

Yeah, I edited the list to make a point ("50 Ways to Leave your Lover" also hit #1 in 1976 and that's a classic), but I think the point is made. Also, that's just the number ones. The rest of the charts were assuredly packed with tripe.

You forgot all the shitty albums from 1976

ACDC-Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap
Aerosmith-Rocks
Blue Oyster Cult-Agents Of Fortune
Bad Co-Run With The Pack
Boston
Bowie-Station To Station
Jackson Browne-The Pretender
Eagles-Hotel California
Thin Lizzy-Jailbreak
Robin Trower-Long Misty Days
Kiss-Destroyer
Genesis-Trick Of The Tail
Steve Miller-Fly Like An Eagle
Ted Nugent-Free For All
Rush-2112
Queen-Day At The Races
Rainbow-Rising
Bob Seger-Night Moves
Steely Dan-Royal Scam
UFO-No Heavy Petting
ELO-New World Record
ZZ Top-Tejas
Foghat-Night Shift
REO-REO
Heart-Dreamboat Annie
Kansas-Leftoverture
Styx-Crystal Ball
Led Zeppelin-Prescence
Rory Gallagher-Calling Card
among others

covenant 08-07-11 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by gmanca (Post 10881755)
But none of those songs, outside of Weird Al Yankovic and Valley Girl which are not fair comparisons because all parody is topical to the time, are dated in subject. Disco Duck and Convoy are both songs about outdated fads.

The superbowl shuffle?
Pac Man fever?
General Hospi-tale?
Ghostbusters?
You Look Mahvelous?

gmanca 08-07-11 06:48 PM

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Before the Super Bowl Shuffle, there was Phillies Fever and before General Hospi-tale there was I Think I Love You.

Ghostbusters was a theme to a film.

I acknowledge that the 80's had it's fair share of novelty songs but I'm just saying that the 70's really started the whole thing as far as taking something from the zeitgeist and making a song about it. For instance, The Chipmunks started from the music, not the other way around where as the Patridge Family became a music group from a tv show about a fictional music group.

Groucho 08-07-11 06:48 PM

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Since we're apparently judging music based on #1 hits (?!) here's the current "winner" (for several weeks in a row):

<iframe width="560" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/KQ6zr6kCPj8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Supermallet 08-07-11 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rw2516 (Post 10881783)
You forgot all the shitty albums from 1976

ACDC-Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap
Aerosmith-Rocks
Blue Oyster Cult-Agents Of Fortune
Bad Co-Run With The Pack
Boston
Bowie-Station To Station
Jackson Browne-The Pretender
Eagles-Hotel California
Thin Lizzy-Jailbreak
Robin Trower-Long Misty Days
Kiss-Destroyer
Genesis-Trick Of The Tail
Steve Miller-Fly Like An Eagle
Ted Nugent-Free For All
Rush-2112
Queen-Day At The Races
Rainbow-Rising
Bob Seger-Night Moves
Steely Dan-Royal Scam
UFO-No Heavy Petting
ELO-New World Record
ZZ Top-Tejas
Foghat-Night Shift
REO-REO
Heart-Dreamboat Annie
Kansas-Leftoverture
Styx-Crystal Ball
Led Zeppelin-Prescence
Rory Gallagher-Calling Card
among others

I can't tell what point you're trying to make, as you've mixed in some truly excellent albums with some total crap ones.

anomynous 08-07-11 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 10881806)
Since we're apparently judging music based on #1 hits (?!) here's the current "winner" (for several weeks in a row):

<iframe width="560" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/KQ6zr6kCPj8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

What is that and how do I kill it?

auto 08-07-11 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Suprmallet (Post 10881809)
I can't tell what point you're trying to make, as you've mixed in some truly excellent albums with some total crap ones.

I know, right? :lol:

colour 08-07-11 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by rw2516 (Post 10881783)
You forgot all the shitty albums from 1976

ACDC-Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap
Aerosmith-Rocks
Blue Oyster Cult-Agents Of Fortune
Bad Co-Run With The Pack
Boston
Bowie-Station To Station
Jackson Browne-The Pretender
Eagles-Hotel California
Thin Lizzy-Jailbreak
Robin Trower-Long Misty Days
Kiss-Destroyer
Genesis-Trick Of The Tail
Steve Miller-Fly Like An Eagle
Ted Nugent-Free For All
Rush-2112
Queen-Day At The Races
Rainbow-Rising
Bob Seger-Night Moves
Steely Dan-Royal Scam
UFO-No Heavy Petting
ELO-New World Record
ZZ Top-Tejas
Foghat-Night Shift
REO-REO
Heart-Dreamboat Annie
Kansas-Leftoverture
Styx-Crystal Ball
Led Zeppelin-Prescence
Rory Gallagher-Calling Card
among others

How old are you, like 15?

Jason 08-07-11 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by colour (Post 10881846)
How old are you, like 15?

Yeah, dammit. :mad2: If you want to talk about good music from the 70s, it has to be new york punk or obscure garage bands. Shit people have actually heard of can't count!

Gerry P. 08-07-11 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Hiro11 (Post 10881639)
- Proposal: "Music was much better in the seventies"
- Rebuttal: the following almost complete list of songs that hit number one in the specific year in question (1976):

Convoy - CW McCall
I Write The Songs - Barry Manilow, of course
Theme From S.W.A.T. - Who give a shit
etc...

Yeah, I edited the list to make a point ("50 Ways to Leave your Lover" also hit #1 in 1976 and that's a classic), but I think the point is made. Also, that's just the number ones. The rest of the charts were assuredly packed with tripe.

I'm sure you know that in the '70s, there was a schism between AM (Top 40) and FM (Album Rock). Top 40 radio was irrelevant to anyone who actually cared about music and most of the cool bands would rarely release a single.

EDIT

As an addendum to rw2516's list (which has a lot of awesome heavy stuff on it, though he missed Judas Priest's 'Sad Wings of Destiny'), these also came from '76:

Joan Armatrading: Joan Armatrading
Blondie: Blondie
Bob Dylan: Desire
ELO: A New World Record
John McLaughlin: Shakti
Joni Mitchell: Hejira
The Modern Lovers: The Modern Lovers
Parliament: Mothership Connection
Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers: Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers
Jaco Pastorious: Jaco Pastorious
Ramones: Ramones
Return to Forever: Romantic Warrior
Peter Tosh: Legalize It
Van Der Graaf Generator: Still Life
Bunny Wailer: Blackheart Man
Tom Waits: Small Change
Stevie Wonder: Songs in the Key of Life
Warren Zevon: Warren Zevon

In my opinion: 1976 > The 2000s

The Cow 08-07-11 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerry P. (Post 10881971)
Top 40 radio was irrelevant to anyone who actually cared about music and most of the cool bands would rarely release a single.

Maybe not necessarily for radio, but most bands released singles in the 70s. I can't think of many that didn't.

Groucho 08-07-11 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Cow (Post 10881988)
Maybe not necessarily for radio, but most bands released singles in the 70s. I can't think of many that didn't.

I can't think of several, but you haven't heard of them.

Gerry P. 08-07-11 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by The Cow (Post 10881988)
Maybe not necessarily for radio, but most bands released singles in the 70s. I can't think of many that didn't.

That's why I said "rarely." For example, out of all the Led Zeppelin songs that received (and continue to receive) heavy rotation on the radio, how many do you think were singles? Like most rock band from the era, the answer is somewhere around one single per album. A single would be released prior to the album, not to have a hit, but to help generate interest in the upcoming album. Once the album was released, FM AOR stations would put as many songs into rotation as were deserved. An album like 'Led Zeppelin IV' was played almost in its entirety. In the '70s, rock was an album market rather than a singles market, and that's why the Top 40 in that era was so crap heavy.


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