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Old 12-30-10 | 09:38 PM
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Those clips are awesome. That really would be better than what they did. If it were up to me I'd give you the $65 million
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Well guys, went and saw it last night. Got the $274 seats for half price just before the show began (last two!). I'm not a theater guy, never saw a musical before, but this was very impressive. Songs weren't all that bad, only 1 or 2 were lame. I'm not a fan of U2 at all, but the songs worked in the context of the play. Stunts were amazing, though. No accidents, and the acrobatics were pretty damn impressive. Ending was very anti-climactic and villains were mostly underused or underdeveloped aside from Green Goblin. I had a blast watching it.
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Well guys, went and saw it last night. Got the $274 seats for half price just before the show began (last two!). I'm not a theater guy, never saw a musical before, but this was very impressive. Songs weren't all that bad, only 1 or 2 were lame. I'm not a fan of U2 at all, but the songs worked in the context of the play. Stunts were amazing, though. No accidents, and the acrobatics were pretty damn impressive. Ending was very anti-climactic and villains were mostly underused or underdeveloped aside from Green Goblin. I had a blast watching it.
Nice to hear that it was decent from a non-u2 fan. I heard the last act had the most issues story wise and sounds like you confirmed it.

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Gotta love the Onion:

Nuclear Bomb Detonates During Rehearsal For 'Spider-Man' Musical
JANUARY 5, 2011 | ISSUE 47•01

NEW YORK—In yet another setback for the $65 million dollar Broadway musical Spider-Man: Turn Off The Dark—a production plagued by multiple delays, poor early reviews, and severe injuries to its cast and crew—a thermonuclear device detonated during the first act of Tuesday night's preview performance. "The bomb should not have gone off at all," said lead producer Michael Cohl, adding that the explosion that vaporized most of Manhattan was "not that unusual" for a major Broadway show still in development. "Spider-Man is supposed to swing down to the stage and deactivate a nuclear bomb, but his wires got tangled up, and by the time he got there and remembered the disarm code, it was too late. We're going to hire two more stagehands to make sure this doesn't happen again." Despite the setback, Cohl told reporters that he is more optimistic than ever about the production, saying that director Julie Taymor and composers Bono and the Edge were disintegrated in the explosion.
http://www.theonion.com/articles/nuc...=recirculation
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So has the show officially premiered yet? Or are these just endless previews while they are still trying to get it right?
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So has the show officially premiered yet? Or are these just endless previews while they are still trying to get it right?
They've extended the previews again. Some of the media got fed up with waiting and waiting while the full price previews continued and decided to publish reviews. Here's a good article about those early reviews from the NY Times:

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February 8, 2011
‘Spider-Man’ Early Reviews Set Off a Storm
By PATRICK HEALY

A scene from “Spider-Man: Turn Off the Dark” at the Foxwoods Theater

In a rare departure from custom, most of the nation’s leading theater critics filed their long-anticipated reviews of Broadway’s “Spider-Man: Turn Off the Dark” for publication on Tuesday, even though that musical had not yet opened. They drew a sharp protest from the production about the fairness of assessing a show while its creative team is still at work.

The reviews by the 12 critics — including those of The New York Times and the region’s three major tabloids as well as of The Los Angeles Times and The Washington Post — were largely negative, in some cases emphatically so. Taken together, the notices yielded a consensus that the musical is hamstrung, in the words of the Chicago Tribune critic Chris Jones, by “an incoherent story” that is hurt more than helped by music, flying sequences and sets that neither live up to the creators’ estimable pedigrees nor to the show’s $65 million price tag.

Directed by Julie Taymor, a Tony Award winner for “The Lion King,” the show has been doing strong box office business since previews began, on Nov. 28; whether the negative reviews make any difference for a brand-name, mass-market entertainment like “Spider-Man” may not be clear for some time.

On Monday the show will report its first week of ticket sales since the reviews; that will be one sign, but sheer curiosity about the new show, its flying sequences (with their headline-grabbing accidents), and music and lyrics by U2’s Bono and the Edge is so great that the grosses are expected to be strong. The effect of negative reviews will probably not be evident until the intrigue wears off, which may not be until the fall or after.

The most direct result of Tuesday’s reviews was a denunciation from the show’s spokesman, Rick Miramontez, who said that the critics’ evaluations were moot because the creative team was still making adjustments.

“This pile-on by the critics is a huge disappointment,” Mr. Miramontez said. “Changes are still being made, and any review that runs before the show is frozen is totally invalid.”

Ben Brantley, The Times’s chief theater critic, was one of the most negative, saying the musical may “rank among the worst” in Broadway history. The closest to a mixed, positive-leaning notice was from New York magazine’s critic Scott Brown, who described the show as “unpredictably entertaining” and said that “even in the depths of ‘Spider-Man’s’ certifiably insane second act, I was riveted.” USA Today also published an article that conveyed praise for the creative team’s ambitions.

Most of the critics wrote that they had decided to follow the musical’s latest opening-night date (before it was moved to March 15) because it had been running for an unusually long 10 weeks of previews with paying theatergoers, who deserved independent appraisals. Five more weeks of previews, which the musical is on track to have, would most likely set a record for the most previews of a Broadway musical. The Times and other major publications almost never review a Broadway production before the opening.

Asked if the early reviews set a precedent, several Broadway producers and theater owners said on Tuesday that the show was an exception, given its long preview period and high cost. (Most musicals have three or four weeks of previews and cost an average of $10 million or so.) Jordan Roth of Jujamcyn Theaters, which owns 5 of the 40 Broadway theaters, said he was more interested in the extent to which amateur critics were changing the editors’ and professional critics’ decisions. He said he was watching “how the forces that they felt necessitated these pre-opening reviews — that so many people had already cast judgment on blogs, Facebook, Twitter and other coverage — will ultimately affect the dynamics of criticism in our culture.”

Like much else about the show, the reviews, too, took on a viral life of their own; by midmorning on Tuesday, a comic minute-long video based on the reviews had already appeared on YouTube. Some critics, including Peter Marks of The Washington Post, said in interviews on Tuesday that they did not plan to publish follow-up reviews of the musical once it opens. The Los Angeles Times critic, Charles McNulty, said he planned to check back in the spring, though he doubted that the March 15 opening date would hold. Broadway shows must open officially by April 28 to be eligible for Tony Awards.

The critics from The New York Post, The Daily News, New York magazine and Time Out New York said in interviews that they would return for the official opening. Jonathan Landman, the culture editor of The Times, said the newspaper would keep its options open.

Given the onslaught of reviews on Tuesday, several of the theater critics denied or shrugged off the notion that there had been some formal collusion to publish in concert or damage the show.

Some critics said that once they heard rumors that Mr. Brantley of The Times was attending a preview and was likely to file a review, they decided to follow suit. Mr. McNulty said he did not consult with other critics and was “a bit surprised” by all the reviews on Tuesday. Mr. Marks of The Washington Post and Jeremy Gerard, theater critic for Bloomberg, said they knew that some other critics were going and planning to file reviews, but that they were not part of any grand plan. Mr. Landman of The Times said he had not had any conversations with journalists at any other publication or Web sites about reviewing the show.


And EW has a nice little collection of review excerpts here:

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Thugs, mob bosses, criminal masterminds — Spider-Man has bested them all before. But the web-slinging superhero might’ve finally met his ultimate match in the theater critics who are slamming the Broadway musical Spider-Man: Turn Off the Dark, now in previews at the Foxwoods Theatre. The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times, and Variety are among the news outlets that have weighed in on the high-profile production over the past 24 hours, breaking with Broadway tradition by ignoring the show’s official March 15 opening date. Many of the critics noted that Feb. 7 was Spider-Man‘s scheduled debut before the most recent postponement — just the latest bump in the road for the accident-plagued musical, which also happens to be the most expensive in Broadway history. Check out their thoughts after the jump!


“Spider-Man is not only the most expensive musical ever to hit Broadway; it may also rank among the worst.” –Ben Brantley, The New York Times

“Julie Taymor’s $65-million, accident-prone production, featuring an erratic score by U2’s Bono and The Edge, is a teetering colossus that can’t find its bearings as a circus spectacle or as a rock musical.” — Charles McNulty, The Los Angeles Times

“[The] story… is sketchy and ill-formed. Some of the dialogue, by Taymor and Glen Berger, seems ad-libbed on the spot and there are a couple of big holes in the story.” — Steven Suskin, Variety

“[A]n underwhelming score is the least of the show’s worries. What really sinks it is the borderline incoherence of its storytelling… For rubberneckers eager to see what the fuss is about, there may be enough noisy spectacle here to convince them they’ve seen something. But when this amount of time and money is tossed at a show, even demanding theatergoers should be awed, not bored.” — David Rooney, The Hollywood Reporter

“The 8-year-old boys in the audience might be able to key on the Cirque du Soleil-style stunts on wires and video-game graphic elements, and probably not worry too much that Spider-Man is a tangle of disjointed concepts, scenes and musical sequences that suggests its more appropriate home would be off a highway in Orlando. Come to think of it, the optimal audience might be non-English-speaking.” — Peter Marks, The Washington Post

“The second act, taken all in all, is basically how I’ve always imagined the Björk–Matthew Barney honeymoon: lots of atavistic rock-moaning, lots of 40-story phallic symbols, lots of bees.” — Scott Brown, New York Magazine

UPDATE: For those of us who are more visually inclined (read: lazy), one creative YouTube user has come to the rescue with a video round-up of the zingiest critical barbs intercut with clips and music from the 1967 animated series. Check it out!
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Dave Letterman tonight will be showing a scene from the Spiderman show.
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Dave Letterman tonight will be showing a scene from the Spiderman show.
He should bring back Super Dave to be in it.
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the song sung on 'Late Show' was ... uh... weak to say the least.
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“The second act, taken all in all, is basically how I’ve always imagined the Björk–Matthew Barney honeymoon: lots of atavistic rock-moaning, lots of 40-story phallic symbols, lots of bees.” — Scott Brown, New York Magazine
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I heard yesterday that they are pushing back the premiere to June.
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^ at that point they should just cancel it ... sheesh
Old 03-03-11 | 08:31 PM
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Almost a whole half year from its intended date? WTF? Are they allowed to do that?
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I don't know if this is real or not, but it's funny:

In My Own Words:
What Actually Happened on "Spider-Man: Turn Off The Dark."
by Glen Berger (co-writer)


Everyone was out to get the show from the beginning - especially the theater people, because they felt that we had too much money, and that the show was too commercial to be considered "artistically valid." But the team assembled was, for the most part, proven. And we were certainly eager to devote our lives to what was sure to be, for all of us, an unprecedented artistic process.

There was reason enough to believe that the show would be a success. The underlying source material had proven a rich enough vein that time and time again, audiences flocked to the theaters to see another iteration of the same old story. They ate up the same tired conventions redressed with a few flashy new bits—year after year! And always in May! You could set your watch to it.

So sue us: we tried to do something new.

I must admit to some failings, yes. The script is discordant and overwritten, owing to the often conflicting styles of myself and my co-writer, Julie Taymor. And the story did need work, but the producers took a hard line on the opening date. And, let's face it, the director was a monomaniac who balked at true collaboration. I knew she was an eccentric personality, but, honestly, sometimes the things she said made no goddam sense at all.

I walked in on a rehearsal one day. I saw the actors. They were touching each other, all of them, moaning like wounded gazelles, mouths agape, eyes aflutter with boredom and exhaustion. What kind of rehearsal was this? Where was the director? Who was running this mess?

From the god mic, I heard her Siren yelp: "You're a spider! You're spinning a web! You've got to BE THE WEB! You got that tensile strength? Get that tensile? You better get that tensile!"

And I definitely should have put my foot down when Julie walked into the writer's room one day and said: "Glen, I know Act 1 is already running 90 minutes. But I really think we need to introduce this whole incredible elaborate Arachne cosmology into Act 2. Call it my genius intuition."

What was it like to work with Bono and Edge? (Among familiars, Edge will discard the definite article.) Well, it's been a mixed blessing. They are not unskilled musicians, but the lyrics are at times so literal as to be mind-numbing, I mean, really, "Boy Falls From the Sky"? "Rise Above"? Just so you understand, here's a sample of their first draft of Peter Parker's "I want" song:

I want/
This is my/
I want song/
I want/
To have an/
I want song/
Ooh Ooh Ooh
(x20)
I WAAAAAAA—
(U2 moment)
—AAAAAAAAANT! Yeah!

Early buzz was unkind. A coterie of insiders, privvy to our workshops, dismissed "Spider Man" as an unsalvageable mess. Our financiers were frightened for us. (Our financiers who, by the way, picked the team and were therefore solely responsible for Ms. Taymor's election to the role of director and therefore should be held kind of responsible for the results don't you think I'm just saying, guys. I mean short of putting a bomb under the stage on opening night there wasn't much more you could have done to sabotage us. Oh well opening night hasn't happened yet and maybe you still will. I'd consider it a mercy killing.)

Of the production, I must say there were some high points. The design team really did a remarkable job. Edge insists that we are having sound difficulties, and that what he wrote was much more nuanced than the brick wall of noise that blasts each time an actor opens his mouth, but everyone else is pretty convinced that it's the U2 touch.

The ensemble are great sports. The multiple injuries and illnesses that beset our cast in the weeks leading up to the production have been duley covered and I need not rehearse them here. And Patrick Page, the actor who plays the villain, is really killing it night after night. Power to him.

But now Julie is stepping down as director. Or she's being fired. Or...something. It's all very unclear right now. From what I understand, the turning point was when Julie told the creative team: "Of course I can play Spider Man and still direct! Of course I can! It will make me a stronger director! I can direct from the stage! Orson Welles did it! Woody Allen did it! Why are you saying I can't sing, dance, direct, write, fly, and fuck over the Great White Way all at once? Is it becuase I'm a woman?"

It was insanity to replace the director so close to opening, yes, but necessary insanity. Fight fire with fire, as they say. I don't know who will replace her. I don't know if there is anything that can be done at this point. God grant whoever replaces her the strength to pull the rabbit out of the shithole, and make something presentable of this mess. May the considerable efforts and talent of the people involved not be wasted.

Whatever changes the new director makes, they must be bold.

What can I say? I only wanted what was best.
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March 10, 2011 8:41 AM
Julie Taymor Out At Spider-Man, New Guy In, and the Show Becomes a Bigger Circus Than Ever

By Joe Dziemianowicz

So Phillip William McKinley is the new director of “Spider-Man: Turn Off the Dark.”

Don’t know him?

Exiting directorJulie Taymor must be humiliated that he’s her replacement.

McKinley directed “The Boy From Oz” in 2003 on Broadway, which was got uniformly weak reviews.

It would have been a flop without star Hugh Jackman, whose dynamite performance kept the show running exactly one year.

When Jackman took the show back to Australia on an arena tour three three years later, they didn’t use McKinley’s direction. It was restaged and directed by Kenny Ortega, noted video choreographer and friend of Michael Jackson.

McKinley’s other big credit is staging Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey circus.

It’s a surprising choice. He doesn’t exactly have the kind of experience you’d think a floundering Broadway musical.

Directing a traditional three-ring circusseems like calling the shots on a military exercise. It’s about the order and the lineup: Elephants over here! Tigers there! Jugglers and clowns, look lively!

Reports have surfaced that he and Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa will start from scratch.

As I noted in my report about what I saw on stage at "Spider-Man," surprises happen on Broadway. But my optimism is quickly fading away on this one.

Dancing spider girls and villains, look lively!
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Maybe a circus director is just what they need. Especially since the show is more of a stunt show than a proper broadway musical.

Out with the art and let this be what the material demands, a glossy commercial silly spectacle.
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Maybe a circus director is just what they need. Especially since the show is more of a stunt show than a proper broadway musical.

Out with the art and let this be what the material demands, a glossy commercial silly spectacle.
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the graph is amusing:

Old 05-24-11 | 06:39 PM
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I haven't heard anything about this lately, but I heard on the radio this morning that they are now inserting old U2 hits into the show. Apparently in reaction to criticism that the music sucks.
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^ Because U2 songs' subject matter are so close to Spider-Man , it won't be noticeable!
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"Oh no! Doctor Octopus, The Vulture, and Rhino have all teamed up! I'll bet I can find their hideout at the...Zoo Station!"

"I thought helping people is what I wanted, but I still haven't found what I'm looking for."

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Spider-Man, it's so high up here, I'm feeling dizzy! Oh my, I think I'm getting.... Unos!, Dos!, Tres!, Catorse!
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"Let me show you another side of the city, let's get some El-e-va-tion...wooooooo"

"it's time to Get On Your Boots Spider-Man"
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Spider-Man, stop trying to throw your arms around the world. You could get your web stuck in a moment and you can't get out of it.
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