Album by Album: Pink Floyd
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Album by Album: Pink Floyd
So after seeing Roger Waters: The Wall Live I'm getting back into Pink Floyd music. I've only listened to the hit albums and none of their early works. This should be a fun thread as i start my journey to listen to all of Pink Floyds work and discover a different side to the band.
One question ; Are we including the live albums?
One question ; Are we including the live albums?
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The Piper at the Gates of Dawn
Track Listing:
Side One
1. "Astronomy Dominé"
2. "Lucifer Sam"
3. "Matilda Mother"
4. "Flaming"
5. "Pow R. Toc H."
6. "Take Up Thy Stethoscope and Walk"
Side two
1. "Interstellar Overdrive"
2. "The Gnome"
3. "Chapter 24"
4. "Scarecrow"
5. "Bike"
Pink Floyd
* Syd Barrett - vocals, guitar
* Roger Waters – bass guitar, vocals
* Richard Wright – farfisa and hammond organs, piano, vocals
* Nick Mason – drums, percussion
Production
* Peter Bown – engineer
* Jon Crossland – repackage design (1994 CD edition)
* James Guthrie – remastering (2007 deluxe edition)
* Peter Jenner – intro vocalisations on "Astronomy Domine"
* Vic Singh – cover photography
* Doug Sax – remastering (1994 CD edition)
* Norman Smith – production
* Storm Thorgerson – repackage design (1994 CD edition)
I just finished listening to this for the first time. I only listened to the British release as i currently do not have the American release.
Since i've only listened to 'Dark Side Of The Moon', 'Wish you were here', 'The Wall', 'Animals' and 'A momentary lapse of reason' This was a bit of a different sounding Floyd. Not many songs were memorable except for "Pow R. Toc H." "Interstellar Overdrive" and "Bike" Those had the trippy Floyd feel to them. The others just sound a bit off. Maybe it';s from listening to the other albums so many times I'm used to one kind of Pink Floyd. As of now I'd rank this as my least favorite.
Track Listing:
Side One
1. "Astronomy Dominé"
2. "Lucifer Sam"
3. "Matilda Mother"
4. "Flaming"
5. "Pow R. Toc H."
6. "Take Up Thy Stethoscope and Walk"
Side two
1. "Interstellar Overdrive"
2. "The Gnome"
3. "Chapter 24"
4. "Scarecrow"
5. "Bike"
Pink Floyd
* Syd Barrett - vocals, guitar
* Roger Waters – bass guitar, vocals
* Richard Wright – farfisa and hammond organs, piano, vocals
* Nick Mason – drums, percussion
Production
* Peter Bown – engineer
* Jon Crossland – repackage design (1994 CD edition)
* James Guthrie – remastering (2007 deluxe edition)
* Peter Jenner – intro vocalisations on "Astronomy Domine"
* Vic Singh – cover photography
* Doug Sax – remastering (1994 CD edition)
* Norman Smith – production
* Storm Thorgerson – repackage design (1994 CD edition)
Spoiler:
I just finished listening to this for the first time. I only listened to the British release as i currently do not have the American release.
Since i've only listened to 'Dark Side Of The Moon', 'Wish you were here', 'The Wall', 'Animals' and 'A momentary lapse of reason' This was a bit of a different sounding Floyd. Not many songs were memorable except for "Pow R. Toc H." "Interstellar Overdrive" and "Bike" Those had the trippy Floyd feel to them. The others just sound a bit off. Maybe it';s from listening to the other albums so many times I'm used to one kind of Pink Floyd. As of now I'd rank this as my least favorite.
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Piper at the Gates of Dawn and Meddle are my two favorite Floyd albums.
There's nothing I can say about Piper that hasn't been said a billion times before, and by people more expressive than myself. All I can say is that it is simply one of the best, if not THE best psychedelic albums ever released. Floyd's patented "space rock" has never been better presented or more engagingly. SO much to love, it's unbelievable.
"Lucifer Sam" is the greatest theme song to a 60s spy movie that was never made, even if it was written about a ginger cat. And "Interstellar Overdrive", as messy as it gets, has one of the greatest, chunkiest riffs ever.
I probably prefer the mono mix to the stereo overall, but my perfect mix would be a combination of the two. "Bike" is perfect in mono, but "Interstellar Overdrive" sounds much fuller in stereo.
There's nothing I can say about Piper that hasn't been said a billion times before, and by people more expressive than myself. All I can say is that it is simply one of the best, if not THE best psychedelic albums ever released. Floyd's patented "space rock" has never been better presented or more engagingly. SO much to love, it's unbelievable.
"Lucifer Sam" is the greatest theme song to a 60s spy movie that was never made, even if it was written about a ginger cat. And "Interstellar Overdrive", as messy as it gets, has one of the greatest, chunkiest riffs ever.
I probably prefer the mono mix to the stereo overall, but my perfect mix would be a combination of the two. "Bike" is perfect in mono, but "Interstellar Overdrive" sounds much fuller in stereo.
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Since i've only listened to 'Dark Side Of The Moon', 'Wish you were here', 'The Wall', 'Animals' and 'A momentary lapse of reason' This was a bit of a different sounding Floyd. Not many songs were memorable except for "Pow R. Toc H." "Interstellar Overdrive" and "Bike" Those had the trippy Floyd feel to them. The others just sound a bit off. Maybe it';s from listening to the other albums so many times I'm used to one kind of Pink Floyd. As of now I'd rank this as my least favorite.
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what can I say about this album. It's the best thing they ever released and the most important album to me that took my musical tastes to 60s music. It's like a different band and it shouldn't even really be compared to the other albums except for Saucerful of Secrets.
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I love this album. Easily Floyd's best until Dark Side of the Moon (although I do enjoy Meddle and Obscured By Clouds quite a bit), and is possibly the best album the band ever recorded. Barrett was a brilliantly twisted pop songwriter, and I wish we could have seen what would have happened had he not gone over the deep end.
There was a reason Paul McCartney championed this album and this band when Piper came out: It is, in my opinion, the single best psychedelic album ever recorded. For all the dated cultural artifacts that came out of psychedelia, this album shows what potential that movement had in it. I wouldn't say it's all downhill from here, but Pink Floyd were never this good at being this weird, while still being accessible, ever again.
There was a reason Paul McCartney championed this album and this band when Piper came out: It is, in my opinion, the single best psychedelic album ever recorded. For all the dated cultural artifacts that came out of psychedelia, this album shows what potential that movement had in it. I wouldn't say it's all downhill from here, but Pink Floyd were never this good at being this weird, while still being accessible, ever again.
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Yeah, but his solo albums are all from after he got blitzed on drugs. I would love to have heard what he could have done had he kept his mind together if this is the first album we got from him.
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so you're not a fan of anything up to DSOTM? Meddle reminds me of it a bit and I actually prefer it as I'm kind of sick of DSOTM.
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Too bad Gabriel era Genesis is the ONLY good Genesis (well, the one album before Hackett left is OK, too). But, seriously, the Phil Collins experience Sucks. He should have stayed behind the drums...
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Pink Floyd is by far my all-time favorite band, but this album is difficult for me to assess in relation to the rest of their catalog. I admit that I'm not as familiar with it as I am their other albums, and I didn't even own a copy until a couple of years ago when the anniversary set came out (I've been a fan for 15 or so years). I always treated it like kind of a one-off curiosity. I respected it and understood the love for it (Syd really was special. How could anyone listen to Bike and not smile?), but it really didn't sound anything like "my" Floyd. However I don't think it's as much of an odd duck as it appears upon first listen. Sure they dropped the psychadelic pop stuff almost immediately after Syd left the band (or should I say after the band left Syd), but Astronomy Domine, Interstellar Overdrive and Pow R. Toc H. are quite indicative of the direction they would go in the next few years.
I think one of the most interesting aspects of the album is that while Syd is clearly the driving force, Rick's presence is felt all over. And although Rick is essential to the post-Syd Floyd sound, I'd argue that he is never more essential than he is on Piper. He really was the musical backbone of the group during this period. Despite some huge contributions to later works, I think this is the only album where Rick is operating completely free of the shadow of Roger and/or David. Syd's departure certainly opened the door for Roger and David to blossom into the artists they became, but I feel like Rick might have been a much bigger creative influence had Syd never left. Almost like Ray Manzarek to Syd's Jim Morrison.
All that said, I think you can look at this album in two ways. You can take it on it's own as a shining beacon of 60's psychedelia; the singular triumph in the career of a one-of-a-kind talent. Or you can look at it as the early seeds of a band that would go on to bigger and better things. I have a hard time seeing it as both simultaneously. Does that even make sense?
I think one of the most interesting aspects of the album is that while Syd is clearly the driving force, Rick's presence is felt all over. And although Rick is essential to the post-Syd Floyd sound, I'd argue that he is never more essential than he is on Piper. He really was the musical backbone of the group during this period. Despite some huge contributions to later works, I think this is the only album where Rick is operating completely free of the shadow of Roger and/or David. Syd's departure certainly opened the door for Roger and David to blossom into the artists they became, but I feel like Rick might have been a much bigger creative influence had Syd never left. Almost like Ray Manzarek to Syd's Jim Morrison.
All that said, I think you can look at this album in two ways. You can take it on it's own as a shining beacon of 60's psychedelia; the singular triumph in the career of a one-of-a-kind talent. Or you can look at it as the early seeds of a band that would go on to bigger and better things. I have a hard time seeing it as both simultaneously. Does that even make sense?
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That wasn't my point. You said you weren't going to rejoin the conversation until Dark Side of the Moon. Barrett was only around for the first two albums, and was only the driving force behind Piper. If it's Barrett you can't stand, why are you ignoring all the albums between Piper/Saucerful and Dark Side?
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I just finished listening to this for the first time. I only listened to the British release as i currently do not have the American release.
Since i've only listened to 'Dark Side Of The Moon', 'Wish you were here', 'The Wall', 'Animals' and 'A momentary lapse of reason' This was a bit of a different sounding Floyd. Not many songs were memorable except for "Pow R. Toc H." "Interstellar Overdrive" and "Bike" Those had the trippy Floyd feel to them. The others just sound a bit off. Maybe it';s from listening to the other albums so many times I'm used to one kind of Pink Floyd. As of now I'd rank this as my least favorite.
Since i've only listened to 'Dark Side Of The Moon', 'Wish you were here', 'The Wall', 'Animals' and 'A momentary lapse of reason' This was a bit of a different sounding Floyd. Not many songs were memorable except for "Pow R. Toc H." "Interstellar Overdrive" and "Bike" Those had the trippy Floyd feel to them. The others just sound a bit off. Maybe it';s from listening to the other albums so many times I'm used to one kind of Pink Floyd. As of now I'd rank this as my least favorite.
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A Saucerful of Secrets
Track listing:
1. Let There Be More Light
2. Remember A Day
3. Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun
4. Corporal Clegg
5. A Saucerful Of Secrets
6. See Saw
7. Jugband Blues
* Roger Waters – bass guitar, percussion, vocals
* Richard Wright – piano, organ, mellotron, vibraphone, vocals
* David Gilmour – guitar, vocals, kazoo
* Nick Mason – drums, percussion, vocals
* Syd Barrett – guitar, acoustic guitar, vocals
* Norman Smith – drums and backing vocals on "Remember a Day"
* The Salvation Army (The International Staff Band) on "Jugband Blues":
* Ray Bowes (cornet)
* Terry Camsey (cornet)
* Mac Carter (trombone)
* Les Condon (E♭ bass)
* Maurice Cooper (euphonium)
* Ian Hankey (trombone)
* George Whittingham (B♭ bass)
* One other uncredited musician
I enjoyed this album more than Pipers. It sounded trippier and had a good feel to it and was soaking in the music. I enjoyed every song especially 'A saucerful of Secrets' felt like i was in another place mentally and mellowed me out more than the other songs. That's what i love most about Floyds music. I can have a crappy day at work, come home, pop in a Floyd CD and just unwind and relax.
Great Album!
Track listing:
1. Let There Be More Light
2. Remember A Day
3. Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun
4. Corporal Clegg
5. A Saucerful Of Secrets
6. See Saw
7. Jugband Blues
* Roger Waters – bass guitar, percussion, vocals
* Richard Wright – piano, organ, mellotron, vibraphone, vocals
* David Gilmour – guitar, vocals, kazoo
* Nick Mason – drums, percussion, vocals
* Syd Barrett – guitar, acoustic guitar, vocals
* Norman Smith – drums and backing vocals on "Remember a Day"
* The Salvation Army (The International Staff Band) on "Jugband Blues":
* Ray Bowes (cornet)
* Terry Camsey (cornet)
* Mac Carter (trombone)
* Les Condon (E♭ bass)
* Maurice Cooper (euphonium)
* Ian Hankey (trombone)
* George Whittingham (B♭ bass)
* One other uncredited musician
Spoiler:
I enjoyed this album more than Pipers. It sounded trippier and had a good feel to it and was soaking in the music. I enjoyed every song especially 'A saucerful of Secrets' felt like i was in another place mentally and mellowed me out more than the other songs. That's what i love most about Floyds music. I can have a crappy day at work, come home, pop in a Floyd CD and just unwind and relax.
Great Album!
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Jeez, only one day to discuss an album? This one is going to go by quick, and people are going to be jumping around in their discussion.
Anyway, I feel about the same as Rocket1312 about Piper. There are some good tracks, but several are just a bit too out there for me. I like odd music, but I started out with later-era Floyd, so this one came as an unwelcome surprise. I've come to enjoy and appreciate it more over the past couple of years, though.
Saucer has one of my favorite songs in Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun. I love that track.
Anyway, I feel about the same as Rocket1312 about Piper. There are some good tracks, but several are just a bit too out there for me. I like odd music, but I started out with later-era Floyd, so this one came as an unwelcome surprise. I've come to enjoy and appreciate it more over the past couple of years, though.
Saucer has one of my favorite songs in Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun. I love that track.
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it's a good album but nowhere near piper at the gates of dawn. My favorite track is Remember a Day then maybe Let There Be More Light. Jugband Blues is a sad farewell from Barrett. It makes me wonder why Vegetable Man and Scream Thy Last Scream were never officially released to this day.
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Saucerful definitely suffers from Barrett's quick disintegration, although some of the tracks, such as "Set The Controls For The Heart of The Sun," are classic Floyd. It's not one I listen to often.
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tangible as in making songs about Barrett like Shine on You Crazy Diamond, Wish You Were Here, Brain Damage, Nobody Home, Empty Spaces, etc? They wore that influence their whole career but it's not like anything they released after saucerful of secrets sounds a lot like piper at the gates of dawn.
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Gotta disagree there. Obscured By Clouds and Meddle are far closer to the style and sound of DSOTM than they are to Piper, Saucerful, or Umma Gumma. Most people think "One Of These Days" is a DSOTM song, and "Childhood's End" and "Free Four" are about as accessible as Floyd ever got.
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Gotta disagree there. Obscured By Clouds and Meddle are far closer to the style and sound of DSOTM than they are to Piper, Saucerful, or Umma Gumma. Most people think "One Of These Days" is a DSOTM song, and "Childhood's End" and "Free Four" are about as accessible as Floyd ever got.
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Yah, I gotta disagree with Lemmy. He may find the pre-DSOTM albums inaccessible (and that's fine), but I think the stuff they did after Syd left had nothing to do with Syd. Syd wrote these whimisical little pop songs (which were a bit strange mind you), but the band started doing all of this long form instrumental, spacey, freak out stuff because they knew they couldn't replicate Syd's style. All you have to do is listen to Syd's solo stuff to get an idea of what Pink Floyd may have been had Syd not left. It sounds nothing like what they were doing during the 68-72 period. If you think the pre-DSOTM stuff is inaccessible, it's mostly because the guys were trying to find their niche as they developed as musicians and songwriters.
As far as Saucerful goes, it's definitely an album by a band in transistion. It's a mish-mash of varying quality that's nowhere near as cohesive as Piper. That being said, this album sees Roger starting to develop as a songwriter, features one of Rick's better songs (Remember a Day), and while it's not high on my list of all-time favorites, you can't deny the haunting prescience of the lyrics to Jugband Blues. Oh, I also kind of like Let There Be More Light. It's goofy sci-fi, but it has a certain charm that I really like.
As far as Saucerful goes, it's definitely an album by a band in transistion. It's a mish-mash of varying quality that's nowhere near as cohesive as Piper. That being said, this album sees Roger starting to develop as a songwriter, features one of Rick's better songs (Remember a Day), and while it's not high on my list of all-time favorites, you can't deny the haunting prescience of the lyrics to Jugband Blues. Oh, I also kind of like Let There Be More Light. It's goofy sci-fi, but it has a certain charm that I really like.