The RIAA's not getting much return on its investment
08-07-10, 01:20 AM
#51
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
Re: The RIAA's not getting much return on its investment
I have a theory that eventually that giant head of his will get so inflated with his sense of self importance that it will pop like an overstuffed blueberry. And i want to think that my downloading had, in some small way, a hand in that.
08-07-10, 06:04 AM
#52
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
Re: The RIAA's not getting much return on its investment
I go out of my way to download as much metallica as i can find, and never even listen to it. I just want Lars Ulrich to run around thinking he is more popular than he actually is.
I have a theory that eventually that giant head of his will get so inflated with his sense of self importance that it will pop like an overstuffed blueberry. And i want to think that my downloading had, in some small way, a hand in that.
I have a theory that eventually that giant head of his will get so inflated with his sense of self importance that it will pop like an overstuffed blueberry. And i want to think that my downloading had, in some small way, a hand in that.
08-08-10, 01:16 PM
#53
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: The RIAA's not getting much return on its investment
I quit liking Metallica less for the idea of stopping the downloading, and more for how Lars & Co. handled the whole thing.
And all this talk about CD's costing over $10...
I can't understand why New Order's "Substance" still costs $23. The CD is old enough to graduate college and it still costs full price?
There is a reason why I buy used.
And all this talk about CD's costing over $10...
I can't understand why New Order's "Substance" still costs $23. The CD is old enough to graduate college and it still costs full price?
There is a reason why I buy used.
08-08-10, 02:15 PM
#54
Banned by request
Re: The RIAA's not getting much return on its investment
As for Metallica, I couldn't care less about their stance on Napster. The fact that they haven't made a good album since The Black Album is reason enough for me to not buy or listen to any of their new music.
What I would like to see are the sales figures from the NIN and Radiohead downloadable releases. Those are the two highest profile artists I know of who offered their albums online for low prices (and Radiohead even let you choose your own price). If those were successful, I don't see why that can't be the new business model.
Last edited by Supermallet; 08-08-10 at 02:18 PM.
08-08-10, 03:01 PM
#55
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: The RIAA's not getting much return on its investment
Hey, I was a-buyin' SACD and DVD-A regularly when those were out. But lo-and-behold, they're gone. Those formats were high-resolution, and had nice copy-protection built right in for the labels and the RIAA folks. Perfect solution for everyone, right? Ya reaps what ya sews.
P.S. - $10 CDs?? Unless I missed something, it was the $21 CD that was the root cause of FYE's collapse. Ya reaps what ya sews.
P.S. - $10 CDs?? Unless I missed something, it was the $21 CD that was the root cause of FYE's collapse. Ya reaps what ya sews.
08-08-10, 03:56 PM
#56
Banned by request
Re: The RIAA's not getting much return on its investment
Hey, I was a-buyin' SACD and DVD-A regularly when those were out. But lo-and-behold, they're gone. Those formats were high-resolution, and had nice copy-protection built right in for the labels and the RIAA folks. Perfect solution for everyone, right? Ya reaps what ya sews.
P.S. - $10 CDs?? Unless I missed something, it was the $21 CD that was the root cause of FYE's collapse. Ya reaps what ya sews.
P.S. - $10 CDs?? Unless I missed something, it was the $21 CD that was the root cause of FYE's collapse. Ya reaps what ya sews.
08-08-10, 03:56 PM
#57
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: The RIAA's not getting much return on its investment
I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that as much as $15 has been lost due to online piracy.
As for Metallica, I couldn't care less about their stance on Napster. The fact that they haven't made a good album since The Black Album is reason enough for me to not buy or listen to any of their new music.
As for Metallica, I couldn't care less about their stance on Napster. The fact that they haven't made a good album since The Black Album is reason enough for me to not buy or listen to any of their new music.
08-09-10, 09:48 AM
#60
DVD Talk Legend
Re: The RIAA's not getting much return on its investment
I'm sad we never got a rebuttal from the trillion dollar guy.
This is what $100 million looks like:
And a trillion:
Can you imagine the trillions lost by the RIAA? No wonder they're pissed. Trillions of dollars = USA's annual GDP!
This is what $100 million looks like:
And a trillion:
Can you imagine the trillions lost by the RIAA? No wonder they're pissed. Trillions of dollars = USA's annual GDP!
08-09-10, 11:42 AM
#61
DVD Talk Hero
Re: The RIAA's not getting much return on its investment
What I would like to see are the sales figures from the NIN and Radiohead downloadable releases. Those are the two highest profile artists I know of who offered their albums online for low prices (and Radiohead even let you choose your own price). If those were successful, I don't see why that can't be the new business model.
08-09-10, 11:58 AM
#62
Banned by request
08-09-10, 01:50 PM
#63
DVD Talk Legend
Re: The RIAA's not getting much return on its investment
Those poor record execs were used to having those pallets upon pallets of stacked $100s dropped off on their doorstep now have to eat at Arby's and Red Lobster.
You evil bastards who torrent and download and go to Usenet binary sites ... you sick mothereffers... you festering pustules of hate... anyone have an Advil?
You evil bastards who torrent and download and go to Usenet binary sites ... you sick mothereffers... you festering pustules of hate... anyone have an Advil?
08-09-10, 02:39 PM
#64
Banned by request
Re: The RIAA's not getting much return on its investment
I used to play bass for Festering Pustules of Hate. We had to call it quits because although we made tons of money, the RIAA took it all for legal fees. 
08-09-10, 04:07 PM
#67
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
Re: The RIAA's not getting much return on its investment
Re-watched Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid a couple nights ago, and I thought about this thread.
Butch Cassidy: "A set-up like that costs more than we ever took...That crazy Harriman. That's bad business. How long do you think I'd stay in operation if every time I pulled a job, it cost me money? If he'd just pay me what he's spending to make me stop robbin' him, I'd stop robbin' him!"
Butch Cassidy: "A set-up like that costs more than we ever took...That crazy Harriman. That's bad business. How long do you think I'd stay in operation if every time I pulled a job, it cost me money? If he'd just pay me what he's spending to make me stop robbin' him, I'd stop robbin' him!"
09-18-10, 02:40 PM
#68
Re: The RIAA's not getting much return on its investment
I wanted to bump this based on an article in the recent Rolling Stone issue. It's written by long time U2 manager, Paul McGuinness.
He takes an interesting stance of blaming ISPs for the profileration of online privacy. Here's a quote from the article "The idea that free content is an inexorable fact of life brought on by the unstoppable advance technology is a myth. It is in fact part of the commercial agenda of powerful telecom industries."
It's an interesting, albeit somewhat ludicrous, argument. I don't think the article is online or I would post it.
He takes an interesting stance of blaming ISPs for the profileration of online privacy. Here's a quote from the article "The idea that free content is an inexorable fact of life brought on by the unstoppable advance technology is a myth. It is in fact part of the commercial agenda of powerful telecom industries."
It's an interesting, albeit somewhat ludicrous, argument. I don't think the article is online or I would post it.
