How will this decade be remembered music wise?
12-04-09, 05:26 PM
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The real bottom line is that this was a decade without a universal identity, at least in the world of Rock music. I look at people's list of the "Best Albums of the Decade" and I have to laugh. I haven't even heard of half these artists and I subscribe to three music magazines. Not that the music isn't good, but there no longer seems to be a communal aspect to rock and popular music. Remember how everyone was so shocked about Michael Jackson's death? Part of that was because he was from an era where music was far more universal; everyone either had his album or at least knew it really well. Those days seem to be gone.
When I say "50's Music?" to you, you say "Elvis. Buddy Holly. Chuck Berry"
60s? -- Beatles, Stones, Dylan, The Who
70s? -- Led Zep, Pink Floyd, Eagles, Bowie, Fleetwood Mac, Elton John
80s? -- Michael Jackson, Police, Prince, Madonna, Early U2, REM
90s? -- Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Smashing Pumpkins, Beck, Green Day
What about this decade? Coldplay? Radiohead? I don't know. Nothing really springs to mind as being decade-defining music. And I don't think that's just a lack of perspective; it's really a change in the Rock music scene.
When I say "50's Music?" to you, you say "Elvis. Buddy Holly. Chuck Berry"
60s? -- Beatles, Stones, Dylan, The Who
70s? -- Led Zep, Pink Floyd, Eagles, Bowie, Fleetwood Mac, Elton John
80s? -- Michael Jackson, Police, Prince, Madonna, Early U2, REM
90s? -- Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Smashing Pumpkins, Beck, Green Day
What about this decade? Coldplay? Radiohead? I don't know. Nothing really springs to mind as being decade-defining music. And I don't think that's just a lack of perspective; it's really a change in the Rock music scene.
12-04-09, 05:47 PM
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Yeah, I'd probably agree with that. And yet, if you asked 10 people on the street to name even one Radiohead song, I'd bet seven of them couldn't do it. They're brilliant, but they're far from the huge commercial successes that previous "Aritsts of the Decades" are.
12-04-09, 05:49 PM
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Re: How will this decade be remembered music wise?
^^ the problem is Radiohead isn't as popular (mainstream popular) as all the bands Decker listed.
I would say Coldplay, The Killers, Kanye West, Beyoncé and Justin Timberlake are the ones that come to mind as the "ones" of the '00's
I would say Coldplay, The Killers, Kanye West, Beyoncé and Justin Timberlake are the ones that come to mind as the "ones" of the '00's
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12-04-09, 05:50 PM
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Re: How will this decade be remembered music wise?
And the 3 that do know one would answer "Creep"...they just aren't popular enough to make a list like you have above...
12-04-09, 05:57 PM
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The Killers? Really? It's a sad list anyway, but I don't think The Killers are really big enough to be on it.
12-04-09, 06:06 PM
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Re: How will this decade be remembered music wise?
Underground goth music.
The Euro pop scene.
Underground Metal music. And the pop and hair metal bands.
You had all kinds of music to keep everybody happy in the 80's.
12-04-09, 06:07 PM
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Well talking POPULAR music, '00s were awful. '90s were almost as bad. I don't know when music got so "gay" or how it got that way, but it's horrendous.
I would hesitate to even call it "music". Forgetable wannabe random "soulful" "singing" over random drum beats and handclaps is hardly "music".
I would hesitate to even call it "music". Forgetable wannabe random "soulful" "singing" over random drum beats and handclaps is hardly "music".
12-04-09, 06:15 PM
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Re: How will this decade be remembered music wise?
Plus lots of folks KNOW of them, (Guitar Hero/Rock Band) and they represent a flashback kinda sound that someone listed earlier in the thread...
You could add in Radiohead or NIN the same way that Beck is listed under the 90's. More critically acclaimed that "popular"...
12-04-09, 07:36 PM
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People are going to use it like Eddie van halen made new
guitar sounds, artists will do cool stuff with their voice. There was even an iPhone game from the maker of auto-tune where you can do same things
12-04-09, 07:44 PM
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Re: How will this decade be remembered music wise?
The real bottom line is that this was a decade without a universal identity, at least in the world of Rock music. I look at people's list of the "Best Albums of the Decade" and I have to laugh. I haven't even heard of half these artists and I subscribe to three music magazines. Not that the music isn't good, but there no longer seems to be a communal aspect to rock and popular music. Remember how everyone was so shocked about Michael Jackson's death? Part of that was because he was from an era where music was far more universal; everyone either had his album or at least knew it really well. Those days seem to be gone.
When I say "50's Music?" to you, you say "Elvis. Buddy Holly. Chuck Berry"
60s? -- Beatles, Stones, Dylan, The Who
70s? -- Led Zep, Pink Floyd, Eagles, Bowie, Fleetwood Mac, Elton John
80s? -- Michael Jackson, Police, Prince, Madonna, Early U2, REM
90s? -- Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Smashing Pumpkins, Beck, Green Day
What about this decade? Coldplay? Radiohead? I don't know. Nothing really springs to mind as being decade-defining music. And I don't think that's just a lack of perspective; it's really a change in the Rock music scene.
When I say "50's Music?" to you, you say "Elvis. Buddy Holly. Chuck Berry"
60s? -- Beatles, Stones, Dylan, The Who
70s? -- Led Zep, Pink Floyd, Eagles, Bowie, Fleetwood Mac, Elton John
80s? -- Michael Jackson, Police, Prince, Madonna, Early U2, REM
90s? -- Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Smashing Pumpkins, Beck, Green Day
What about this decade? Coldplay? Radiohead? I don't know. Nothing really springs to mind as being decade-defining music. And I don't think that's just a lack of perspective; it's really a change in the Rock music scene.
Great post. Think was the point I was trying to make when I started the thread. In each of the decades before, starting with the 50's, you could name the artists or music that defined the decade. To be honest, I can't think of one that defines this one. I think people kept waiting for the next big thing to come out but it never did.
12-04-09, 08:05 PM
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I think there was a year, or rather a 12-month period between 69-70, where there was new music put out by The Beatles, The Stones, Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix, Pink Floyd, Van Morrison, The Who, Bob Dylan, David Bowie, Beach Boys, James Brown, Funkadelic, Black Sabbath and more, all at the top of their game.
And that's just 12 months! This entire decade can't even hope to compete with that single year. Having said that, there was a lot of good music out this decade, but very little of it (if any) was very popular. Actually, a lot of those bands I named weren't popular during their hey-day - their status grew over time. I think a current band, like Spoon, is a similar band that will take time for people to come around on.
The problem is that too many people are entrenched in their "classic rock", and the people that love those '60s and '70s bands now, most likely wouldn't have been fans during their prime, and they won't bother discovering the newer bands that they would like, because the day of people with good taste who had the clout to push and promote good bands is long, long over.
And that's just 12 months! This entire decade can't even hope to compete with that single year. Having said that, there was a lot of good music out this decade, but very little of it (if any) was very popular. Actually, a lot of those bands I named weren't popular during their hey-day - their status grew over time. I think a current band, like Spoon, is a similar band that will take time for people to come around on.
The problem is that too many people are entrenched in their "classic rock", and the people that love those '60s and '70s bands now, most likely wouldn't have been fans during their prime, and they won't bother discovering the newer bands that they would like, because the day of people with good taste who had the clout to push and promote good bands is long, long over.
12-04-09, 08:15 PM
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I think you could add Jay Z, Usher(had 7 singles that reached number 1 in the hot 100 and an album that sold over 10 million copies).
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12-05-09, 02:39 AM
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Re: How will this decade be remembered music wise?
Actually, a lot of those bands I named weren't popular during their hey-day - their status grew over time. I think a current band, like Spoon, is a similar band that will take time for people to come around on.
The problem is that too many people are entrenched in their "classic rock", and the people that love those '60s and '70s bands now, most likely wouldn't have been fans during their prime, and they won't bother discovering the newer bands that they would like, because the day of people with good taste who had the clout to push and promote good bands is long, long over.
The problem is that too many people are entrenched in their "classic rock", and the people that love those '60s and '70s bands now, most likely wouldn't have been fans during their prime, and they won't bother discovering the newer bands that they would like, because the day of people with good taste who had the clout to push and promote good bands is long, long over.
I totally agree about the internet making smaller, niche movements. While radio is grasping how to deal with it, it's sort of exciting knowing I can search blogs for "Best of 2009" and hear a slew of bands/songs I would NEVER have known about even by reading music magazines. In fact, I'm doing it now and have a few new favorite songs from 2009.
One other thing that makes me smile about this decade is Flaming Lips. Radio can ignore them, but they clearly aren't being ignored by concert-goers and their record label. They are very much like what was going on in the 70's in attitude. The missing ingredient is album rock radio, but who really even cares about that anymore?
12-05-09, 02:43 AM
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What I think really hurt radio starting in the late 90's is that radios began to become more niche-oriented and demographic courting. The days of someone like Prince or Janet Jackson scoring a hit on three or four different formats at once is over. Clear Channel's act of 1996 really destroyed popular music and radio in the US and I think it's really hurt artists from reaching wider audiences.
12-05-09, 02:52 AM
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I think this decade will be remembered for the rise of MP3, iPods, and iTunes most.
But I know the antics of the RIAA have laid the groundwork for something terrible (for them) in the future.
But I know the antics of the RIAA have laid the groundwork for something terrible (for them) in the future.
12-05-09, 04:25 AM
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One other thing that makes me smile about this decade is Flaming Lips. Radio can ignore them, but they clearly aren't being ignored by concert-goers and their record label. They are very much like what was going on in the 70's in attitude. The missing ingredient is album rock radio, but who really even cares about that anymore?
I would also say that, although not a new artist, Elvis Costello had fantastic output this decade. His albums have been varied and interesting and assured. In terms of older artists remaining relevant, he's probably at the top of my list.
12-05-09, 06:00 AM
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Although I started listening to them in the 90's, The Flaming Lips are probably my favorite band of the decade. Not all of their albums this decade have been great, but I always find what they do fascinating. And the way they interact with their audience is something a lot of other bands could learn from.
12-05-09, 06:38 AM
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Soft Bulletin was '99, right? That would make Yoshimi the only album of theirs this decade that I thought was brilliant. But I still love them and saw them multiple times live in the 00's.
12-05-09, 08:45 AM
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12-05-09, 11:28 AM
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Which is actually a pretty interesting analogy when you think about it. The Beatles were actually a really good boy band, and hip hop has become a pretty shitty music to dance to.
12-05-09, 11:54 AM
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The real bottom line is that this was a decade without a universal identity, at least in the world of Rock music. I look at people's list of the "Best Albums of the Decade" and I have to laugh. I haven't even heard of half these artists and I subscribe to three music magazines.
12-05-09, 01:53 PM
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well, sadly Decker is right. The name of the game with radio has changed so much. In the 80's critical darlings such as U2 and REM finally reached a point where they had to jump on the bandwagon or look obsolete doing it. You will never see radio finally conceding and playing a Wilco or Radiohead track (okay, "Creep" 16 years ago when they thought they were just another one hit wonder from the alt era). You have to look harder to find good music today, as opposed to when U2 and The Cure would actually share airplay space with NKOTB and Debbie Gibson.
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