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Buttmunker 11-18-08 07:48 AM

Your Two Favorite tracks from METALLICA's "METALLICA" (1991)
 
*Since the poll option only offers 10 positions, I'm going to exclude the hits Enter Sandman and The Unforgiven

Out of the ten tracks, which two would you say are still your favorite?

For me, Through The Never (love the solo) and The Struggle Within (love the snare drum and the pace)

The tracks:
1.
2. Sad But True
3. Holier Than Thou
4.
5. Wherever I May Roam
6. Don't Tread On Me
7. Through The Never
8. Nothing Else Matters
9. Of Wolf And Man
10. The God That Failed
11. My Friend Of Misery
12. The Struggle Within

bunkaroo 11-18-08 11:26 AM

I voted Sad But True and My Friend Of Misery.

Always loved Sad But True well before it was a single. MFOM because I love the bass parts.

Canis Firebrand 11-18-08 12:50 PM

I actually forgot it was self-titled.. I always call it The Black Album.. as I'm sure many others do.

For me, tough choice on just two songs.. I went with Sad But True and Of Wolf and Man. Just something about the lyrics and beat of the song OWAM.

The Black 11-18-08 01:05 PM

Wherever I may roam
+
Sad but true

DVD Josh 11-18-08 01:51 PM

WTF...how can you not include what are likely to be people's favorite tracks. I love Unforgiven, I think it's Kurt's best EVER solo.

This is poll is useless without ES at least. Useless.

fumanstan 11-18-08 02:09 PM

Enter Sandman + Nothing Else Matters.

db27 11-18-08 02:45 PM

of wolf and man, holier than thou are my fave faves....unforgiven is the best solo kirk has ever layed down.

misery best bass line

but I love them all :)

chris_sc77 11-18-08 02:47 PM

Enter Sandman and The Unforgiven

pinata242 11-18-08 02:49 PM

Wherever I May Roam
Nothing Else Matters

I wouldn't have picked either of the two you omitted anyway.

dick_grayson 11-18-08 03:15 PM

My Friend of Misery
Through The Never

wishbone 11-18-08 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by dick_grayson (Post 9079954)
My Friend of Misery
Through The Never

Seconded.

Tokyo Vigilante 11-18-08 03:51 PM

I am new here to the music section, but how can you leave out those two tracks?

However, I voted for Through The Never and Struggle Within.

project86 11-18-08 04:34 PM

I picked all of them to screw with your poll. Ha-ha!

Flashback 11-18-08 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by Tokyo Vigilante (Post 9080036)
I am new here to the music section, but how can you leave out those two tracks?

I have no idea ...

GuessWho 11-18-08 09:21 PM

Through the Never
Of Wolf and Man

NoirFan 11-18-08 09:58 PM

None. That album marked the beginning of the downward spiral for them.

inri222 11-18-08 10:15 PM


Originally Posted by NoirFan (Post 9080742)
None. That album marked the beginning of the downward spiral for them.


:thumbsup:

Josh-da-man 11-18-08 10:52 PM

Went with "Sad But True" and "Through the Never."

Also sort of have a soft spot for "Struggle Within."

Those three songs, along with "Unforgiven" are the only decent songs on the album. They actually sound and feel closest to what Metallica should sound like.

The other songs, particularly the singles, are too commercial-sounding radio-friendly Metallica.

Rypro 525 11-19-08 01:21 AM

I picked Through the Never and Whenever I May Roam. IMO, Nothing Else Matters is one of the worst Metallica songs they ever created.

Duh Vuh Duh 11-19-08 10:37 AM

Of Wolf and Man
The God that failed

Still have some love for wherever I may roam since I used to put it on a play along with the great drums in it.

Buttmunker 11-19-08 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by Tokyo Vigilante (Post 9080036)
I am new here to the music section, but how can you leave out those two tracks?

However, I voted for Through The Never and Struggle Within.

For a person who voted the same way the OP did, I must say that I thought the answer to your question was quite obvious.

Enter Sandman and The Unforgiven were the two biggest hits of Metallica's career. What good is a poll if you know people are going to vote for the two biggest hits of Metallica's career? I wanted to know what people's thoughts were for the rest of the album. I already know people liked Enter Sandman and The Unforgiven. No sense in that.

EDIT: I would have included them, but I didn't have the option to include all 12 tracks. So I left off the two biggest hits of Metallica's career.

johnbook 11-19-08 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by NoirFan (Post 9080742)
None. That album marked the beginning of the downward spiral for them.


Highly Disagree, IMO that would be Load..My two picks were!!

Through The Never
Struggle Within

Buttmunker 11-19-08 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by johnbook (Post 9081843)
Highly Disagree, IMO that would be Load..My two picks were!!

Through The Never
Struggle Within

I agree with you 200%! 100% for Load being the start of the end; 100% for your picks, which matched mine.

nothingfails 11-19-08 02:54 PM

I admit I'm not much of a metal/Metallica fan, but I don't understand the hate this album still received 15+ years later just because it was such a big seller. I can understand the whole "they have more albums than this" type of mentality like Springsteen fans have with Born In The U.S.A. or Prince fans have with Purple Rain as a lot of consumers think that was the only essential album for either, but for the most part, Metallica seems to be the one exception where the fans really hate the biggest album. Whereas U2 fans seem to agree The Joshua Tree is one of their best, and AC/DC fans almost all love Back In Black even if they preferred Bon Scott, etc... Why is it so different with Metallica? Like it or not, The Black Album has become one of those classic rock albums ala Back In Black and Dark Side Of The Moon that consumers continue to flock to in droves. I understand the hate for Load, but The Black Album? That's the one that put them on top of the world!

Buttmunker 11-19-08 03:01 PM

It is a matter worth considering. I mean, any popular group can have a No.1 album on the chart, but it won't necessarily cause the same effect it caused for Metallica in the 1990's. Pantera boasted when their album Far Beyond Driven hit No.1 in 1994, saying, "Metallica's album was the hardest that went to No.1, until we did - we're much harder than the Black Album!" While there may be some truth to that statement, Far Beyond Driven did not remain in the Billboard Top 200 for as many weeks at the Black Album did, nor did it cause another phoenomena from occurring:

In New York, all of a sudden, the classic rock station 92.3 starting doing heavy rotation on old Metallica songs! I mean, they were spinning Master of Puppets and For Whom The Bell Tolls along with the usual classic rock from the 70's. I mean, "heavy metal" was not considered "classic rock" in 1992, 93, 94, etc until Metallica. And their newfound fame didn't flow unto other metal bands like Megadeth or any of their contemporaries. Just Metallica. This was caused due to the success of the Black Album - which, by the way, stayed on the charts for years. Not months, but years

Tokyo Vigilante 11-19-08 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by Buttmunker (Post 9081585)
For a person who voted the same way the OP did, I must say that I thought the answer to your question was quite obvious.

Enter Sandman and The Unforgiven were the two biggest hits of Metallica's career. What good is a poll if you know people are going to vote for the two biggest hits of Metallica's career? I wanted to know what people's thoughts were for the rest of the album. I already know people liked Enter Sandman and The Unforgiven. No sense in that.

EDIT: I would have included them, but I didn't have the option to include all 12 tracks. So I left off the two biggest hits of Metallica's career.

I was looking at it from the sense of, a lot of people love those two songs. Regardless of if they are the biggest hits. I dig both those songs...in fact they would probably be #3 & #4 on the list for me.

I am not trying to say any other than that. I apologize if it was taken any other way.

NoirFan 11-19-08 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by nothingfails (Post 9082177)
I admit I'm not much of a metal/Metallica fan, but I don't understand the hate this album still received 15+ years later just because it was such a big seller.

Metallica's first three albums (plus much of Justice, despite it's thin, bass-free production) are near-perfect thrash metal. The Black Album is polished, radio-friendly hard rock. There is a world of difference between the two.

dick_grayson 11-19-08 06:03 PM

nicely put :up:

Josh-da-man 11-19-08 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by NoirFan (Post 9082630)
Metallica's first three albums (plus much of Justice, despite it's thin, bass-free production) are near-perfect thrash metal. The Black Album is polished, radio-friendly hard rock. There is a world of difference between the two.

The first four Metallica albums (Kill'em All, Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets, and AJFA) were heavy metal albums made for heavy metal fans.

The Black Album was a Metallica album made for mainstream audiences. It's the album that's safe to play on the radio. It was an album that was safe for the preppies and cheerleaders to listen to. In Nirvana-speak, "a radio friendly unit shifter."

And it had a motherfucking ballad on it. By that time, the "heavy metal ballad" was a punchline, and they went with it anyway.

VHS? 11-19-08 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by DVD Josh (Post 9079776)
WTF...how can you not include what are likely to be people's favorite tracks. I love Unforgiven, I think it's Kurt's best EVER solo.

This is poll is useless without ES at least. Useless.

Who the fuck is this Kurt guy?

I went with Sad But True and My Friend of Misery
I'm actually surprised at the responses here seeing as so many Metallica fans say this album was the downfall of Metallica - Didnt think there would be any favorites .... :rolleyes:

nodeerforamonth 11-19-08 09:19 PM

"Enter Sandman" & "Sad But True". I really HATE this album though... worst Metallica album ever.

Michael Corvin 11-19-08 10:26 PM

I love the final four tracks that close out the album.

Of Wolf & Man
The God that Failed
My Friend of Misery
The Struggle Within

My two for the poll are in bold though.

SexualPudding 11-19-08 11:26 PM

My Friend of Misery
Of Wolf and Man

bigjim25 11-20-08 01:16 AM


Originally Posted by project86 (Post 9080124)
I picked all of them to screw with your poll. Ha-ha!

Same here! :rimshot:

johnbook 11-20-08 03:09 AM


Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 9083095)
I love the final four tracks that close out the album.

Of Wolf & Man
The God that Failed
My Friend of Misery
The Struggle Within

My two for the poll are in bold though.

Totally agree, IMO most albums start off strong and end a little weak, this album definately ends very strong with those four tracks, along with "Through The Never" those are my 5 favorite tracks from the Black album, also i can't beleive someone said this is the worst Metallica album, that is total bullshit once again IMO, that honor definately goes to that piece of shit "St. Anger", which is the only Metallica cd i don't own.

MaxMFP 11-20-08 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by nothingfails (Post 9082177)
I admit I'm not much of a metal/Metallica fan, but I don't understand the hate this album still received 15+ years later just because it was such a big seller. I can understand the whole "they have more albums than this" type of mentality like Springsteen fans have with Born In The U.S.A. or Prince fans have with Purple Rain as a lot of consumers think that was the only essential album for either, but for the most part, Metallica seems to be the one exception where the fans really hate the biggest album. Whereas U2 fans seem to agree The Joshua Tree is one of their best, and AC/DC fans almost all love Back In Black even if they preferred Bon Scott, etc... Why is it so different with Metallica?


Because they completely shit on their sound with this album, duh. I don't give two-shits that it's by far their biggest blockbuster ever. That's not the reason I hate it in the least.

mike7162 11-20-08 09:40 PM

Wherever I May Roam

Sad But True


Wherever I May Roam and Creeping Death are my favorite all time.

Buttmunker 11-21-08 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by Josh-da-man (Post 9082881)

And it had a motherfucking ballad on it. By that time, the "heavy metal ballad" was a punchline, and they went with it anyway.

But the album Ride The Lightning had a ballad on it. That was Metallica's whole argument...fans criticized Metallica in 1984 for "Fade To Black", and fans criticized Metallica for "Nothing Else Matters". Meanwhile, everyone embraces "Fade To Black" now....therefore......

Michael Corvin 11-21-08 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by johnbook (Post 9083328)
Totally agree, IMO most albums start off strong and end a little weak, this album definately ends very strong with those four tracks, along with "Through The Never" those are my 5 favorite tracks from the Black album,

:up: I like the way you think.

inri222 11-21-08 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by NoirFan (Post 9082630)
Metallica's first three albums (plus much of Justice, despite it's thin, bass-free production) are near-perfect thrash metal. The Black Album is polished, radio-friendly hard rock. There is a world of difference between the two.



Originally Posted by Josh-da-man (Post 9082881)
The first four Metallica albums (Kill'em All, Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets, and AJFA) were heavy metal albums made for heavy metal fans.

The Black Album was a Metallica album made for mainstream audiences. It's the album that's safe to play on the radio. It was an album that was safe for the preppies and cheerleaders to listen to. In Nirvana-speak, "a radio friendly unit shifter."

And it had a motherfucking ballad on it. By that time, the "heavy metal ballad" was a punchline, and they went with it anyway.

I have to agree with both these dudes.


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