Metallica remasters?
11-20-08, 07:47 AM
#26
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Jason Newsted clearly believes that his bass was turned off on Justice. This was a claim he made after quitting Metallica in 2001, and when discussing the topic, he was very clearly still upset. I would expect so, especially after his excellent bass sounds on the Garage Days Re-Revisited EP.
According to some accounts I've read in magazines and books, Lars Ulrich had a falling out with Newsted at some early point. It's never been specified when, but it went far enough where Ulrich wanted Newsted replaced altogether! This move was blocked by Cliff Burnstein at Q Prime (Metallica's longtime managers), who observed that the band would only be changing players on every album. You made your choice, Lars, now you have to stick to it.
According to some accounts I've read in magazines and books, Lars Ulrich had a falling out with Newsted at some early point. It's never been specified when, but it went far enough where Ulrich wanted Newsted replaced altogether! This move was blocked by Cliff Burnstein at Q Prime (Metallica's longtime managers), who observed that the band would only be changing players on every album. You made your choice, Lars, now you have to stick to it.
11-20-08, 10:39 AM
#28
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"Blackened" Intro (Fade In)
Another scattering moment of audible bass.
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A|--------------------7----|
E|----7----8----10--------|
"Blackened" Intro (Fade In)
Another scattering moment of audible bass.
11-20-08, 11:58 AM
#29
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As posted in the Death Magnetic thread several pages back
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Blackened w/ enhanced bass, this is the original track,since it was a song in Rock Band, and the guy who upped this turned the bass up significantly
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Blackened w/ enhanced bass, this is the original track,since it was a song in Rock Band, and the guy who upped this turned the bass up significantly
They did the same for And Justice for All ...
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11-20-08, 05:40 PM
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The only time I ever really noticed any bass on the album was during the slow part before the final verse. If you really listen carefully, you can hear the bassline very faintly. The lack of bass, along with the production sounding too "dry", always bothered me about the album. "Master of Puppets" had the same producer and sounds much better to me.
11-20-08, 06:29 PM
#31
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Remember that they went back to Fleming Rassmussen after Mike Clink didn't work out (Clink went on to produce Megadeth's masterful comeback Rust in Peace). Rassmussen essentially was a hands-off guy, so Justice was the first album where Hetfield and Ulrich were in the producer's chair, in charge of those decisions.
As for the rest of your suggestions, I'd never heard of any dislike between Lars and Newsted. I was fairly certain that Lars and James both admitted to sneaking into the studio during mixing and turning down the bass while Jason wasn't around... to make their parts stand out better I guess. It was a stupid decision and pissed off Newsted when he got the finished album.
It's interesting to note that when Metallica enlisted Bob Rock for their fifth studio album - what became The Black Album - Rock and his team squirreled Newsted away to themselves. This time, the bass would be protected from outside interferences. The result is that brilliant, heavy, deep sound on The Black Album.
