New Radiohead Album - In Rainbows
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Obviously I'm a little late in getting around to listening to this one. I listened to it once all the way through and can at least say I like more than hail to the theif and Amnesiac.
Radiohead albums are some of the very few that take time to grow on me and while Hail to theif was the only one that did not (it was what it was in IMO) In Rainbows is ringing good so far in my ears.
I don't for one second blame people for being pissed about the continuation of the bands Kid A efforts - I personally love Kid A but think they should have stopped there as well. The Bends showed a lot of talent along with Ok Computer.
I sensed different times for this band after Amnesiac which was a pretty shitty effort regardless if it was just left over material.
I also heard a little while back that the band was never fully satisfied with Hail to the Theif as well (don't quote me on this though just stating what I remembered hearing\reading).
All in all though - This new effort has me interested but I do hope they tread newer ground or even go back to pre-Kid A material for their next album.
EDIT: If you're interested - there is a high quality version of House of Cards available for DL on the official site - you can find the link under the latest entry - it's a fucking outstanding video:
http://www.radiohead.com/deadairspace/
Radiohead albums are some of the very few that take time to grow on me and while Hail to theif was the only one that did not (it was what it was in IMO) In Rainbows is ringing good so far in my ears.
I don't for one second blame people for being pissed about the continuation of the bands Kid A efforts - I personally love Kid A but think they should have stopped there as well. The Bends showed a lot of talent along with Ok Computer.
I sensed different times for this band after Amnesiac which was a pretty shitty effort regardless if it was just left over material.
I also heard a little while back that the band was never fully satisfied with Hail to the Theif as well (don't quote me on this though just stating what I remembered hearing\reading).
All in all though - This new effort has me interested but I do hope they tread newer ground or even go back to pre-Kid A material for their next album.
EDIT: If you're interested - there is a high quality version of House of Cards available for DL on the official site - you can find the link under the latest entry - it's a fucking outstanding video:
http://www.radiohead.com/deadairspace/
Last edited by Rival11; 07-27-08 at 10:32 PM.
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Originally Posted by benedict
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from pitchforkmedia:
Radiohead's In Rainbows Successes Revealed
Three million in sales! 100,000 discboxes shipped! 1.75 million physical CDs sold!
Over the next couple days in Reykjavik, Iceland, music industry sorts will gather for You Are in Control, an international conference dealing with issues in music and media. One such presenter is Jane Dyball, head of business affairs for Warner/Chappell, the publishing company responsible for the work of that Radiohead band. Dyball's presentation concerns all kinds of data surrounding last October's release of In Rainbows, which, as you may have heard, completely changed the music business forever and stuff.
Well, not really; but according to a report on Dyball's figures from "digital music business information and strategy company" Music Ally-- which has been confirmed by Radiohead's publicist-- In Rainbows certainly worked out well for the band.
The writeup suggests that there have been three million purchases of In Rainbows thus far, from digital sales through the band's webstore in the run up to the album's release, the discboxes, the eventual physical release of the album on CD, and through other digital outlets. More specifically, the band moved around 100,000 of those (very nice!) discboxes, and the physical CD has sold 1.75 million units to date worldwide. Not bad for a thing you could get for free.
The report characterizes the In Rainbows experiment as a success, noting "for Warner it served to prove a point that by licensing directly (i.e. outside the collecting society network) and by offering a genuine one stop shop for licensing (i.e. combining all the digital rights into one offer from a single entity) the publisher was able to generate far more money for both themselves and the band than would have been possible under the traditional system."
Music Ally also notes that the last several Radiohead releases sold in the hundreds of thousands, not millions, so the buzz-building nature of the band's release plan certainly lit a fire under consumers. To that end, the report offers that "the fact that Radiohead had made more money before In Rainbows was physically released than they made in total on Hail to the Thief is surely evidence enough that the initiative was a tremendous success." Better album, too.
There were, of course, some hang-ups; the thing hit BitTorrent almost immediately after its release, and it's "clear that the BitTorrent downloads did indeed greatly outnumber those from Radiohead's official site." In fact, the band and their management kept a pretty keen eye on the digital sales of the disc through their website, "and were watching the average price daily with a view to potentially withdrawing it any moment should it drop too low."
They did, eventually, pull the free download option off the site, but the point seems to be this: what they did worked awfully damn well-- for Radiohead, for this particular album, at this particular moment. The article notes this as well: "In fact, if anything, the only trouble with the whole thing was that it was just arguably too successful. The whole 'pay what you like' experiment became the story rather than the music itself. And that's not so Radiohead. The band and Thom Yorke initially found themselves answering questions about why they chose to do what they did rather than being asked about the music itself."
Radiohead's In Rainbows Successes Revealed
Three million in sales! 100,000 discboxes shipped! 1.75 million physical CDs sold!
Over the next couple days in Reykjavik, Iceland, music industry sorts will gather for You Are in Control, an international conference dealing with issues in music and media. One such presenter is Jane Dyball, head of business affairs for Warner/Chappell, the publishing company responsible for the work of that Radiohead band. Dyball's presentation concerns all kinds of data surrounding last October's release of In Rainbows, which, as you may have heard, completely changed the music business forever and stuff.
Well, not really; but according to a report on Dyball's figures from "digital music business information and strategy company" Music Ally-- which has been confirmed by Radiohead's publicist-- In Rainbows certainly worked out well for the band.
The writeup suggests that there have been three million purchases of In Rainbows thus far, from digital sales through the band's webstore in the run up to the album's release, the discboxes, the eventual physical release of the album on CD, and through other digital outlets. More specifically, the band moved around 100,000 of those (very nice!) discboxes, and the physical CD has sold 1.75 million units to date worldwide. Not bad for a thing you could get for free.
The report characterizes the In Rainbows experiment as a success, noting "for Warner it served to prove a point that by licensing directly (i.e. outside the collecting society network) and by offering a genuine one stop shop for licensing (i.e. combining all the digital rights into one offer from a single entity) the publisher was able to generate far more money for both themselves and the band than would have been possible under the traditional system."
Music Ally also notes that the last several Radiohead releases sold in the hundreds of thousands, not millions, so the buzz-building nature of the band's release plan certainly lit a fire under consumers. To that end, the report offers that "the fact that Radiohead had made more money before In Rainbows was physically released than they made in total on Hail to the Thief is surely evidence enough that the initiative was a tremendous success." Better album, too.
There were, of course, some hang-ups; the thing hit BitTorrent almost immediately after its release, and it's "clear that the BitTorrent downloads did indeed greatly outnumber those from Radiohead's official site." In fact, the band and their management kept a pretty keen eye on the digital sales of the disc through their website, "and were watching the average price daily with a view to potentially withdrawing it any moment should it drop too low."
They did, eventually, pull the free download option off the site, but the point seems to be this: what they did worked awfully damn well-- for Radiohead, for this particular album, at this particular moment. The article notes this as well: "In fact, if anything, the only trouble with the whole thing was that it was just arguably too successful. The whole 'pay what you like' experiment became the story rather than the music itself. And that's not so Radiohead. The band and Thom Yorke initially found themselves answering questions about why they chose to do what they did rather than being asked about the music itself."




